Harvin's Return, "just around the corner"

[Basis4day]

I seen Wee-bay playing a cop in a commercial. Just didn't look right.

Reminds me of the first time i heard Idris Elba (Stringer) speak in an interview.

 

[scutterhawk]

So you're neither knocking him or ready to praise him? You just wanted to throw that out there that he may have ulterior motives and/or his heart might not be in the game

I was responding to a poster that said he "bet Percy was just itching to get back on the field", or something to that extent. I said I wouldn't be so sure, gave my reasons, and a debate ensued. I wasn't just "throwing it out there."

Maybe not your whole post. But the "heart might not be in it" part seems to be out of place with your responses after it.

Not that I feel obligated to defend my own motives, but here's the original quote that started me off on the "Percy's heart may not be in it" theme:

Percy has got to be DYING to put on pads and suit up. I say get him in AS SOON AS HE'S READY, and have him full go before we get back to the CLink. He need to be a full participant by the time he gets 'home'.

Maybe he is. But I wouldn't make that assumption. When he first had his hip examined, he had a professional opinion that had he taken it, would have allowed him to play, but he chose to go get a second opinion which recommended surgery and 8 weeks off and he chose to accept it and went against our team's medical staff. There is the possibility that his heart isn't in the game. Only time will tell.

"DYING to put on his pads and suit up" is what I'm not convinced of. I don't know why my insistence of on field proof before I assume that he's "dying" to get out there after he sat with injuries for much of the end of last season and by his own choice sat out the first half of this season is such an unreasonable request.

If we're being honest here, it's not a "request" at all, it's a personal speculative thought, with nothing substantial to back up your Gut Feeling :th2thumbs:
I've had injuries that one doctor had misdiagnosed, but being it was MY unusual pain, I went to a different doctor, and HE found the injury, and PROPER treatment ensued, I then went back to work KNOWING all was done the right way.
As for Percy Harvin getting into the Seahawks Offensive flow, I'd like to see him put into the last quarter of the Cards game, and see if he is up to beyotch-slapping them after they've been worn down to their hairy nubbins. :thfight7:

 

[RiverDog]

So you're neither knocking him or ready to praise him? You just wanted to throw that out there that he may have ulterior motives and/or his heart might not be in the game

I was responding to a poster that said he "bet Percy was just itching to get back on the field", or something to that extent. I said I wouldn't be so sure, gave my reasons, and a debate ensued. I wasn't just "throwing it out there."

Maybe not your whole post. But the "heart might not be in it" part seems to be out of place with your responses after it.

Not that I feel obligated to defend my own motives, but here's the original quote that started me off on the "Percy's heart may not be in it" theme:

Percy has got to be DYING to put on pads and suit up. I say get him in AS SOON AS HE'S READY, and have him full go before we get back to the CLink. He need to be a full participant by the time he gets 'home'.

Maybe he is. But I wouldn't make that assumption. When he first had his hip examined, he had a professional opinion that had he taken it, would have allowed him to play, but he chose to go get a second opinion which recommended surgery and 8 weeks off and he chose to accept it and went against our team's medical staff. There is the possibility that his heart isn't in the game. Only time will tell.

"DYING to put on his pads and suit up" is what I'm not convinced of. I don't know why my insistence of on field proof before I assume that he's "dying" to get out there after he sat with injuries for much of the end of last season and by his own choice sat out the first half of this season is such an unreasonable request.

If we're being honest here, it's not a "request" at all, it's a personal speculative thought, with nothing substantial to back up your Gut Feeling :th2thumbs:
I've had injuries that one doctor had misdiagnosed, but being it was MY unusual pain, I went to a different doctor, and HE found the injury, and PROPER treatment ensued, I then went back to work KNOWING all was done the right way.
As for Percy Harvin getting into the Seahawks Offensive flow, I'd like to see him put into the last quarter of the Cards game, and see if he is up to beyotch-slapping them after they've been worn down to their hairy nubbins. :thfight7:

I said nothing about any "gut feeling" of mine. All I am saying is that there's the possibility that Percy has not fully bought in to doing whatever it takes to get a ring, and there are, indeed, substantial facts that support such a possibility of which I've already brought to light in this thread.

Don't hold your breath with regards to Harvin getting into the Cards game, that is unless you are referring to Week 16.

 

[ImTheScientist]

I said nothing about any "gut feeling" of mine. All I am saying is that there's the possibility that Percy has not fully bought in to doing whatever it takes to get a ring, and there are, indeed, substantial facts that support such a possibility of which I've already brought to light in this thread.

Don't hold your breath with regards to Harvin getting into the Cards game, that is unless you are referring to Week 16.

"Gut Feeling's" from fans..... :34853_doh: , did the internet teach you all these "substantial facts"? I know how this goes......

1/2 the fan base makes blanket BS statements just like you did above. Player "X" then returns or starts playing really well. At that point you are now wearing player "X's" jersey to the game and around town. Jerks like me bump these threads only to get slapped on the hand by the mods.

lather, rinse, repeat.

 

[NFSeahawks]

just around the river bend?

 

[Exittium]

I thought he needed to have 3 weeks of practice or whatever as well before he returned, so a week before thanksgiving at the soonest we'll see him? Maybe I'm either not looking into it enough or overlooking it idk..

Nope. He can return Thursday if PC would let him play and he was ready.

Okay cool thanks wasn't entirely sure

 

[RiverDog]

I said nothing about any "gut feeling" of mine. All I am saying is that there's the possibility that Percy has not fully bought in to doing whatever it takes to get a ring, and there are, indeed, substantial facts that support such a possibility of which I've already brought to light in this thread.

Don't hold your breath with regards to Harvin getting into the Cards game, that is unless you are referring to Week 16.

"Gut Feeling's" from fans..... :34853_doh: , did the internet teach you all these "substantial facts"? I know how this goes......

1/2 the fan base makes blanket BS statements just like you did above. Player "X" then returns or starts playing really well. At that point you are now wearing player "X's" jersey to the game and around town. Jerks like me bump these threads only to get slapped on the hand by the mods.

lather, rinse, repeat.

Harvin was arrested for suspicion of DUI this spring. That is a fact. Harvin has had problems with the last two head coaches he played for. That is a fact. Harvin discarded medical advice that would have had him playing in the first half of the season. That is a fact.

You, me, or anyone else can put our own spins on those facts, use our own adjectives to describe them, come up with various explanations for them, over state them, or ignore them, but they are facts.

 

[mjwhitay]

I said nothing about any "gut feeling" of mine. All I am saying is that there's the possibility that Percy has not fully bought in to doing whatever it takes to get a ring, and there are, indeed, substantial facts that support such a possibility of which I've already brought to light in this thread.

Don't hold your breath with regards to Harvin getting into the Cards game, that is unless you are referring to Week 16.

"Gut Feeling's" from fans..... :34853_doh: , did the internet teach you all these "substantial facts"? I know how this goes......

1/2 the fan base makes blanket BS statements just like you did above. Player "X" then returns or starts playing really well. At that point you are now wearing player "X's" jersey to the game and around town. Jerks like me bump these threads only to get slapped on the hand by the mods.

lather, rinse, repeat.

Harvin was arrested for suspicion of DUI this spring. That is a fact. Harvin has had problems with the last two head coaches he played for. That is a fact. Harvin discarded medical advice that would have had him playing in the first half of the season. That is a fact.

You, me, or anyone else can put our own spins on those facts, use our own adjectives to describe them, come up with various explanations for them, over state them, or ignore them, but they are facts.

I like that we know that he could have just played the first half, but he just chose not to. Lots of people know lots of FACTS around here.

 

[RiverDog]

I said nothing about any "gut feeling" of mine. All I am saying is that there's the possibility that Percy has not fully bought in to doing whatever it takes to get a ring, and there are, indeed, substantial facts that support such a possibility of which I've already brought to light in this thread.

Don't hold your breath with regards to Harvin getting into the Cards game, that is unless you are referring to Week 16.

"Gut Feeling's" from fans..... :34853_doh: , did the internet teach you all these "substantial facts"? I know how this goes......

1/2 the fan base makes blanket BS statements just like you did above. Player "X" then returns or starts playing really well. At that point you are now wearing player "X's" jersey to the game and around town. Jerks like me bump these threads only to get slapped on the hand by the mods.

lather, rinse, repeat.

Harvin was arrested for suspicion of DUI this spring. That is a fact. Harvin has had problems with the last two head coaches he played for. That is a fact. Harvin discarded medical advice that would have had him playing in the first half of the season. That is a fact.

You, me, or anyone else can put our own spins on those facts, use our own adjectives to describe them, come up with various explanations for them, over state them, or ignore them, but they are facts.

I like that we know that he could have just played the first half, but he just chose not to. Lots of people know lots of FACTS around here.[/quote]

OK, I'll concede. How about I modify the above comment about Harvin to his not choosing the option that would have allowed him to play vs. the option that put him out for 3-4 months. Would that qualify as a fact?

 

[Sterling Archer]

Unless you were involved in the medical conversation with Harvin's doctors I don't see how you know it's a fact that he could have played just fine this season without surgery. You have no idea of the exact nature of his injury and are just going off of rumor. I work in the medical field and the little bit we know about his injury would indicate to me that it was actually smart of him to have the surgery early versus waiting and seeing, possibly causing permanent damage to his hip joint. I'd rather miss half a season of Harvin in 2013, then lose him or lose his explosiveness for the remainder of this career. It also entirely possible had he waited, the injury would have ended up needing surgery this year anyway and then he would be missing the latter half of the season and the playoffs.

You are speculating on someone's medical condition and I find it offensive.

 

[RiverDog]

Unless you were involved in the medical conversation with Harvin's doctors I don't see how you know it's a fact that he could have played just fine this season without surgery. You have no idea of the exact nature of his injury and are just going off of rumor. I work in the medical field and the little bit we know about his injury would indicate to me that it was actually smart of him to have the surgery early versus waiting and seeing, possibly causing permanent damage to his hip joint. I'd rather miss half a season of Harvin in 2013, then lose him or lose his explosiveness for the remainder of this career. It also entirely possible had he waited, the injury would have ended up needing surgery this year anyway and then he would be missing the latter half of the season and the playoffs.

You are speculating on someone's medical condition and I find it offensive.

Where was it that I said he could have played "just fine" this season w/o surgery? Where was it that I speculated about his medical condition?

All I said was that Harvin received a medical opinion that had he taken it, would have allowed him to play. I said nothing about the wisdom of that decision nor did I say anything about how well he might have played had he chosen to go by the second opinion.

 

[thebanjodude]

Harvin was arrested for suspicion of DUI this spring. That is a fact. Harvin has had problems with the last two head coaches he played for. That is a fact. Harvin discarded medical advice that would have had him playing in the first half of the season. That is a fact.

You, me, or anyone else can put our own spins on those facts, use our own adjectives to describe them, come up with various explanations for them, over state them, or ignore them, but they are facts.

He was wrongly detained and released, a drug evaluation expert concluded that he was not under the influence. Nothing to see here.

 

[ImTheScientist]

I said nothing about any "gut feeling" of mine. All I am saying is that there's the possibility that Percy has not fully bought in to doing whatever it takes to get a ring, and there are, indeed, substantial facts that support such a possibility of which I've already brought to light in this thread.

Don't hold your breath with regards to Harvin getting into the Cards game, that is unless you are referring to Week 16.

"Gut Feeling's" from fans..... :34853_doh: , did the internet teach you all these "substantial facts"? I know how this goes......

1/2 the fan base makes blanket BS statements just like you did above. Player "X" then returns or starts playing really well. At that point you are now wearing player "X's" jersey to the game and around town. Jerks like me bump these threads only to get slapped on the hand by the mods.

lather, rinse, repeat.

Harvin was arrested for suspicion of DUI this spring. That is a fact. Harvin has had problems with the last two head coaches he played for. That is a fact. Harvin discarded medical advice that would have had him playing in the first half of the season. That is a fact.

You, me, or anyone else can put our own spins on those facts, use our own adjectives to describe them, come up with various explanations for them, over state them, or ignore them, but they are facts.

Fact - your facts are not facts.

 

[Evil_Shenanigans]

So Pete mentioned that Harvin was running during the pre-game warmup Sunday. Has anyone seen any video of him doing so? Just wondering if he is still favoring that hip while he runs.

 

[RiverDog]

Harvin was arrested for suspicion of DUI this spring. That is a fact. Harvin has had problems with the last two head coaches he played for. That is a fact. Harvin discarded medical advice that would have had him playing in the first half of the season. That is a fact.

You, me, or anyone else can put our own spins on those facts, use our own adjectives to describe them, come up with various explanations for them, over state them, or ignore them, but they are facts.

He was wrongly detained and released, a drug evaluation expert concluded that he was not under the influence. Nothing to see here.

How was he wrongly detained?

 

[ImTheScientist]

Harvin was arrested for suspicion of DUI this spring. That is a fact. Harvin has had problems with the last two head coaches he played for. That is a fact. Harvin discarded medical advice that would have had him playing in the first half of the season. That is a fact.

You, me, or anyone else can put our own spins on those facts, use our own adjectives to describe them, come up with various explanations for them, over state them, or ignore them, but they are facts.

He was wrongly detained and released, a drug evaluation expert concluded that he was not under the influence. Nothing to see here.

How was he wrongly detained?

Does that really need to be spelled out for you? Read the portion after the red. Comma's mean pause....not stop reading.

 

[RolandDeschain]

Reminds me of the first time i heard Idris Elba (Stringer) speak in an interview.

Yeah, the first time I heard that British accent coming out of Stringer Bell's mouth, it blew me away; haha. Had no idea before then that the dude was a Brit. He does an amazing job at accents, that's for sure. You totally can't tell in The Wire, even if you're listening for it.

 

[bestfightstory]

You are speculating on someone's medical condition and I find it offensive.

Any chance you would make that your sigline? I think it is a finely crafted sentence. And, frankly, I would like to see much more of it.

 

[Zebulon Dak]

1/2 the fan base makes blanket BS statements just like you did above. Player "X" then returns or starts playing really well. At that point you are now wearing player "X's" jersey to the game and around town. Jerks like me bump these threads only to get slapped on the hand by the mods.

lather, rinse, repeat.

:roll:

Dumbest post I've read since the last time you posted the same stupid shit.

 

[RolandDeschain]

:roll:

Dumbest post I've read since the last time you posted the same stupid shit.

It sucks going through this revelation like seven times each day with his posts.