Hank Fraley (Lions OL Coach) Interviewing for OC

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This has been my personal favorite potential candidate league-wide in the "no playcall experience" department, and that dates back to prior to Mac's hiring. What a friggin' unit this guy coaches.

Pair him with a pass coordinator like maybe a Byron Leftwich and we could have something really fun.

I prefer an OC with play-calling experience, but if we're going to roll with an inexperienced one I like the idea of it being someone with a background in OL.
Schneider has proven that he not only undervalues the OL but also that he can't identify talent even when he's willing to spend resources. It has gotten so bad that Schneider may need to be fired because of his refusal and inability to fix the OL since he got here.

I say go for it. If the OL still sucks in 2025 then fire Schneider mid-season and start working on finding his replacement. I'm sick of Schneider and want him gone.
 

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Looking at the field of contenders I think, if he will accept it, Fraley is our guy.
But it does have a way of reminding what happened during the Hurt period. I know it's comparing O to D but the situational structure is the same.

As for hiring someone to replace JS I am one of those who believes in identifying the replacement first, then make the move. Not the other way around.
 

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Where are you seeing he's putting a staff together?


Around the 15 minute mark maybe a minute or two after is when they bring it up. Both Dan and Corbin have strong connections with the Seahawks so they know their stuff. This is just one of the places I heard this.
 

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I think Hank Fraley wouldn’t be the best OC but could be a better HC in a few years. I feel an OC will need a handle on the line but also needs pass calling and scheming skills. He ticks the boxes around leader of men and the ability to influence grit, but the WRs and utility players will soon lose it if the coaching is all about the line. A line coach is a specialist coach. Ken Norton was a great line coach but an OK DC. Transferable skills require play calling and scheming skills. If that work is outsourced to another guy, it would become like how we had a 2 DC combo when Sean Desai got here one season. To become a great OC, you would ideally have to be doing some level of that work in NFL along with some college years of play calling. If I was John, I would look for an experienced OC or someone who can scheme design and counter punch. Then you hire an assistant OC, Oline, Assistant Oline and build your staff around continuity. Since our HC is a defensive guy, we will continue to have a coaching carousel at our offensive side of things. However to find a blue print to load up assistant position coaches and building some continuity is what we should try to do. Otherwise on paper great line coaches don’t translate to OCs, they are better aligned to be HCs by bringing in the gritty mentality and rallying the entire team. When we go after shiny stars based on their successes in other teams but ignore how those teams really became successful, we are just not doing the right thing.
 

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He's been in that system with Ben Johnson. He hears all the calls too. He was one hell of an O Lineman. Dan Campbell and many other gush over how good he is. I don't claim to know much about him, but I trust the opinions of a lot of former players and current coaches who say this guy is one hell of a coach. O line is w/out a doubt his specialty, O Line is w/out a doubt the #1 problem with this team. I also trust Coach Mike, a lot. Just because the Grubb experience didn't work, it doesn't mean his next choice won't.
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I wonder if it’s him with the young kid on his staff from Minnesota and they’re just putting a team together
 

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I like this guy a lot more than drinking the Kool-Aid of "Guy with no NFL OC experience didn't work out so therefore we must hire hire someone with NFL OC experience because this is apparently the only determining factor in whether an OC will succeed or not now."
 

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