Geno Smith...

[scutterhawk]

I don't trust him, I don't think the recievers do either. Its like he's broadcasting on FM and everyone else is tuned into satellite radio. I'm not one for the stats but I just don't think he passes the eye test for me, maybe it is confirmation bias but I thought he was poor last season and he's been poor again so far.

I don't think he can lead the offense to a win if the defense keep it close. He simply not dynamic enough for me.

Not Russellesque enough for you?
Admit it, that's who you are measuring & comparing him to, hell, the NOW Russell Wilson couldn't even hold a candle to the THEN Russell Wilson, and that's a fact.

 

[Scout]

The nice thing about Waldron's offense is that he can scheme players open. But even in this offense you need WRs that create separation and catch the ball at times. It is as simple as that IMO.

Pre season is pretty vanilla and the lack of tackling and catching is basic stuff that will be ironed out over the long haul IMO.

 

[scutterhawk]

OK, I give up.
Some of my favorite, memorable drops are by Marques Valdez Scantling.
My recent, most photogenic favorite was by Javon Wimms in the SuperDome endzone, January 2021.
Did you see that one?
(sorry if I'm off topic, but debating what is a drop, and what isn't a drop, is more fun for me)

Try staying on topic.

 

[scutterhawk]

The nice thing about Waldron's offense is that he can scheme players open. But even in this offense you need WRs that create separation and catch the ball at times. It is as simple as that IMO.

Pre season is pretty vanilla and the lack of tackling and catching is basic stuff that will be ironed out over the long haul IMO.

^^THIS^^

 

[Scout]

In the modern NFL WRs have become a premium position which is why the WRs are going more frequently in higher rounds or teams are willing to ship first round picks for them.

And a lot of these teams do not have top five or top ten QBs on their rosters when they are doing this with the sudden frenzy with WRs. Watching Brady work his miracle against the Rams in the playoffs last year while missing a lot of his top tier targets was very impressive but by no means the norm. And even then the Bucs went out this off season and signed Justin Gage and then signed J. Jones.

The NFL is a passing league and having quality WRs is very important. That is why the Seahawks have invested heavily in drafting WRs because that is the league trend. Whether they all work out or not is yet to be determined. But the Seahawks are going to pour resources year to year looking to augment the WR group. It has worked out doing so by flooding the RB position so they will try to do the same at WR. Hart, Swain and Eskridge all have a golden opportunity to step up.

 

[fullquartpress]

Try staying on topic.

You could have just typed 'yes', or 'no', but I won't waste any more tilme on a useless topic.
So I will be, physically, 'off topic'.

 

[camdawg]

Not Russellesque enough for you?
Admit it, that's who you are measuring & comparing him to, hell, the NOW Russell Wilson couldn't even hold a candle to the THEN Russell Wilson, and that's a fact.

Russ was our QB..so yes, that would indeed be the comparison to make.

However, you're incorrect on Now Russ being worse than Past Russ. It's more like Hurt Russ isn't as good as Healthy Russ.

Up to the play where he got hurt against Aaron Donald, Russ was completing 70 percent of his passes on the season. He threw 10 TDs, against 1 INT that was mainly Tyler Lockett's fault. This resulted in a QB rating of 125. He was playing the best football of his career. And then the injury happened.

 

[scutterhawk]

The Quarterback can't be part of the blame for scoring? Um.............ok

C'mon man, now you're blaming Geno fricken Smith for the dropped CATCHABLE balls? False Starts? & other drive killing penalties??, I mean shit, even Russell Wilson couldn't shine under those EXACT SAME conditions, and those are the FACTS!

 

[scutterhawk]

Russ was our QB..so yes, that would indeed be the comparison to make.

However, you're incorrect on Now Russ being worse than Past Russ. It's more like Hurt Russ isn't as good as Healthy Russ.

Up to the play where he got hurt against Aaron Donald, Russ was completing 70 percent of his passes on the season. He threw 10 TDs, against 1 INT that was mainly Tyler Lockett's fault. This resulted in a QB rating of 125. He was playing the best football of his career. And then the injury happened.

There is no "However" about it, it's O-B-V-I-O-U-S as hell, that the THEN Russ was a HELL OF A LOT FASTER at eluding the Hits Pressures & Sacks that the NOW Russ.
The THEN Russ WOULD NOT HAVE GOTTEN INJURED like the NOW SLOWER Russ did, and that's just the FACTS OF being an AGING Athlete.

 

[scutterhawk]

You could have just typed 'yes', or 'no', but I won't waste any more tilme on a useless topic.
So I will be, physically, 'off topic'.

It's called "Coping Out", but you go right on ahead & quit, BUT, if you think that it's going to help you save face though?? LOLOLOL

 

[scutterhawk]

I don't trust him, I don't think the recievers do either. Its like he's broadcasting on FM and everyone else is tuned into satellite radio. I'm not one for the stats but I just don't think he passes the eye test for me, maybe it is confirmation bias but I thought he was poor last season and he's been poor again so far.

I don't think he can lead the offense to a win if the defense keep it close. He simply not dynamic enough for me.

By the way, both Metcalf AND Locket were miffed by the DROPPED PASSES that Geno made, eh?

 

[scutterhawk]

I think we can all realistically state that its highly unlikely that Geno Smith is going to lead this offense to any type of success on the field. I've seen Vietcong tunnels with higher ceilings than this guy.

There are EXPERTS that will tell you that you're talkin' out your Toush UK.

 

[JayhawkMike]

I saw Geno play in real games last year. He sucks. Pre season grades and an incompletion that has been analyzed more than the Super Bowl interception do not change that. I guess it’ll take 2-3 real season games for some of the Geno homers but of course there are a few that nothing will change them from being Geno Fluffers.

 

[Maelstrom787]

I saw Geno play in real games last year. He sucks. Pre season grades and an incompletion that has been analyzed more than the Super Bowl interception do not change that. I guess it’ll take 2-3 real season games for some of the Geno homers but of course there are a few that nothing will change them from being Geno Fluffers.

Oh, look. The patented "I'm making up a contingent of people to hate again and not offering any specific football discussion" move.

 

[fullquartpress]

You miss

It's called "Coping Out", but you go right on ahead & quit, BUT, if you think that it's going to help you save face though?? LOLOLOL

No, it's not called quitting.
It is called ending a waste of time.
And I'm sure you could have easily caught that 3rd and 5 chance, and survived the landing.

 

[TwistedHusky]

Look,

After almost 10 years in the league, if you feel Geno is going to be better? I commend your optimism.

I won't ridicule people for having hope. It would be great if you are right.

But it usually does not work that way.

EDIT:
Forget the 'almost'.

 

[Maelstrom787]

Look,

After 10 years in the league, if you feel Geno is going to be better? I commend your optimism.

I won't ridicule people for having hope. It would be great if you are right.

But it usually does not work that way.

I don't even know how to respond to this.

This is a new, uncharted level of talking at, rather than talking to.

 

[BlueTalon]

Look,

After almost 10 years in the league, if you feel Geno is going to be better? I commend your optimism.

I won't ridicule people for having hope. It would be great if you are right.

But it usually does not work that way.

EDIT:
Forget the 'almost'.

Hats off to you for the last few sentences. Most people who think Geno is horrible are leaning into the ridicule.

But to answer the first bit, I think I speak for some here when I say that after 10 years in the league, Geno might be better. It remains to be seen. But this is the first time in years that Geno has had a legitimate opportunity to compete for the starting job. Getting thrown into a game following a Russ injury is not the same thing as prepping for an entire preseason as the possible starter. And I'm presuming that the current Seahawks coaching staff is more competent and less dysfunctional than the Jets' coaching staff was ten years ago. So Geno is getting a chance right now that he has arguably never had in his entire career.

Maybe he will get better. Maybe he will crash and burn. We will find out. My point here is that the naysayers have been arguing that he sucks now because he has always sucked, and there's no difference between now and then. I'm arguing that there is a marked difference between Geno's situation now and Geno's situation at any other time in his career.

 

[flv2]

Fair enough. We can agree to disagree. It's not that important.
34 TD's, 37 Picks, less than 7000 yards passing in his entire career. For those who care about QBR, his career QBR is 75.7.
If he was anything more, he would be starting somewhere else.
I don't care if he was with the Jets or not. He's the one pulling the trigger. If that's not average, I'm not sure what is.

Smith's career passer rating is 75.7. A QBR rating of 75.7 would be awesome. For comparison Goff's career passer rating is 91.5. Smith's passer rating in Seattle is 102.7, but that sample size is only 100 passes. Passer rating isn't negatively affected by sacks/yardage lost.

 

[Titus Pullo]

I am going off of Geno's entire career for my assertion that he sucks not two partial preseason games.

Like I stated.....I want Geno to start half the season to prove me right and to make some of the homers realize it, as well.

I previously stated that Steve Young played crappy with the Bucs...then he changes teams and became an HOF.

That is precisely where Lock is now.....Geno has already changed four teams and doesn't fall into this category.