Dolphins landed the biggest trade in years due to Lance

[The Dirty Dozen Fan]

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I'll say one thing Frido. You're trolling of Niner fans on this board has become so laughable but also bizarre and weird at the same time.

Lynch has gone 52-46 since joining the Niners in 2017 while the Seahawks are marginally better at 58-40 in that same time span.

The stat you might not like or believe is the Seahawks have gone 1-4 in the playoffs since 2017 while Lynch's Niners have gone 6-3, with the 2 NFC title game losses and the one Superbowl loss.

Besides the train wreck as you keep calling it, Lynch is a proven GM whether you like it or not.


Have a great July 4th weekend.

 

[FrodosFinger]

Not that factual information has ever been a factor in your posts, but they didn't trade up for a kicker. They traded up for Penn State S Ji'Ayir Brown. They took Moody with a pick they owned already.

And drafting a place kicker in the 3rd is a wise move? This dude better not miss one kick for 5 straight years to make it worth it. What an awful waste of high end top 3 round draft capital

 

[94Smith]

And as for your D-line coach, his success with the 49ers coincides with the arrival of Nick Bosa. Bosa is what helps the other players on your D-line, not Kris Kocurek.

Good thing the 49ers have both

 

[FrodosFinger]

 

[FrodosFinger]

Damn ….

 

[49fansinceBrodie]

Mods? can we merge this with one of the other dozens of Lance threads?

 

[SantaClaraHawk]

I understand why Frodo dislikes Lance, but if he is truly that bad of a player, it’s great for us Hawks.

 

[Weadoption]

and yet, we destroyed the Dolphins and that other weird ocean animal mascot team.
destroyed

 

[49fansinceBrodie]

I understand why Frodo dislikes Lance, but if he is truly that bad of a player, it’s great for us Hawks.

I really don't understand. I get that pro sports fans dehumanize players, but from all accounts Lance is a good human being, kind, polite, a good leader. Oh wait, now I get it.

 

[94Smith]

Running out of material Frodo?

https://www.seahawks.net/threads/a-comprehensive-breakdown-of-the-49ers-dolphins-trade.183164/

 

[Hawkinaz]

Can’t argue with the results of that trade. 9ers could have had Lance without trading up no other team was going to draft him before the 3rd rd

 

[Maulbert]

No denial that it's a bad deal, but this obsession is pathetic.

 

[MORGULON]

Lance was just a bad decision . All teams make them from time to time.

A really bad decision. Take away John lynch's draft ability type of bad decision.

It's funny , niner fans on a Seahawk message board complaining Seahawk fans are piling on the miners.

 

[Maulbert]

Lance was just a bad decision . All teams make them from time to time.

A really bad decision. Take away John lynch's draft ability type of bad decision.

It's funny , niner fans on a Seahawk message board complaining Seahawk fans are piling on the miners.

As a Seahawks fan, I'm all for piling on the Niners. But Frodo's Finger's obsession with Lance just makes Hawk fans look pathetic.

 

[MORGULON]

As a Seahawks fan, I'm all for piling on the Niners. But Frodo's Finger's obsession with Lance just makes Hawk fans look pathetic.

Nah , it's fun and it's before training camp. There isn't too much that we can pick on with SF. They're a good team that went to the NFCC with the last pick in the draft. Who else do we make fun of?

Don't think they aren't talking massive $#!t over in miner land . Let them enjoy it ( for now)

 

[SantaClaraHawk]

I really don't understand. I get that pro sports fans dehumanize players, but from all accounts Lance is a good human being, kind, polite, a good leader. Oh wait, now I get it.

For me, I went anti Lance around the time he did the mattress ad. He had been on ir for almost a season by then and chooses to promote himself literally in bed.

And a couple weeks later, Lance is publicly filmed playing secret santa putting 500 dollar speakers in each Dude‘s locker. Purdy meanwhile had a postcard made with His ps roommates.

Then the nfc west was won, and there’s Trey in a nice new t-shirt long Before any actual Contributor could, you know, shower.

 

[bileever]

Unfortunately for us, Lynch hasn't been a terrible GM. Yes, he's made a couple of bad trades, but, who hasn't? (John Schneider has been responsible for more bad trades.) Not just the Lance trade, but the DeForest Buckner trade as well. What will make or break him is how the CMC trade and the Javon Hargrave signing work out in the next couple of years.

To be fair, he has made a couple of pretty good trades, getting Trent Williams for a 3rd rounder and Jimmy Garoppolo for a 2nd rounder. He's also been pretty good on draft day, hitting it big with Bosa and picking up George Kittle in the 5th round, Fred Warner in the 3rd round, Deebo Samuel in the 2nd round and Brock Purdy in the 7th. Of course, Shanahan has had a big hand in these moves as well.

Btw, I still love the Trey Lance threads. Keep 'em coming!

 

[Marvin49]

Just a dumb graphic. Dishonest as well.

Lance trade hasn't worked out yet, and very possibly it may never given the way Purdy played last year....

...but the graphic leaves out that the Dolphins ALSO traded the below on top of the picks the 49ers gave them:

Hill:
2022 2nd round pick
2022 4th round pick
2023 4th round pick
2023 6th round pick
Give Hill new contract - over 120 million

Waddle and 2021 5th round pick:
2022 1st round pick
2021 4th round pick

Chubb and 2025 5th round pick:
2024 4th round pick
RB Chase Edmunds
Give Chubb new contract - over 110 million


Whether the 49ers made a wise move in the trade is certainly up for debate, but come on...at least be honest in the comparison. Hill and Chubb were only available due to original teams not wanting to pay those contracts.

 

[Marvin49]

This is what the Seahawks did for years after SB48 and 49, trying to reclaim first-round busts because winning means no high draft picks. Now the 49ers are having to do the same. Good luck with that. I'm sorry to say that it rarely works out.

And as for your D-line coach, his success with the 49ers coincides with the arrival of Nick Bosa. Bosa is what helps the other players on your D-line, not Kris Kocurek.

1) Those busts have ALREADY worked out. Arden Key moved on for much bigger contract. Laken Tomlinson moved on for much bigger contract. Omenihu moved on for a bigger contract. Moreover on the D-Line, this is just about depth. The starter opposite Bosa is likely going to be Drake Jackson, their 2nd round pick last year.

2) If you don't think Kocurek has an impact on the team, you aren't paying attention. The Seahawks paid Hyder for his single season of production under Kocurek in the year Bosa was out with torn ACL. Whether you want to believe or not, Kocurek is one of the most sought after DL coaches in the NFL.

 

[Marvin49]

And drafting a place kicker in the 3rd is a wise move? This dude better not miss one kick for 5 straight years to make it worth it. What an awful waste of high end top 3 round draft capital

Dunno if it was wise or not. We'll see.

My point was that you yet again displayed your lack of knowledge about anything you spout off about.