Do We Officially Ride the Cheater Label in 2013?

[scutterhawk]

But seriously, if a player is using a PED you have seen that player make plays while being on it.

Finish your sentences NL.
Like, "But seriously, if a > 49r < player is using a PED you have seen that player make plays while being on it", as there is undoubtedly, use of PEDs throughout the League.

 

[scutterhawk]

Say hello to the #Seadderall Seahawks.

If you don't like it enough to own it, now is the time to start learning to!

I for one, will gladly let you wear that stone around your neck if you like, that way, I don't have to bother with the nonsense of stupid bent finger accusations.

 

[scutterhawk]

I wonder if the phrase The Adderal Hawks will catch on.

Hey, it just might, but you can help it to get to full bloom if you go to other fan sites and bolster it up.
If it's accepted here at .NET by a bunch of Seahawks fans, and it creats enough angst amongst the fans here, then it will catch hold to fans of other teams, who will undoubtedly bring their torches, just to keep the fire going.

 

[RichNhansom]

This is getting ridiculous. Adderall is most often used recreationally when out partying. It is also one of the easiest drugs on the market to get a prescription for. If they were using the drug as a PED to benefit their play it wouldn't be a one time thing and they would simply get a prescription.

So far all these test results are coming when there is no team activity and the most common time for young adults to be out partying. Adderall (sp) is a form of speed to those who don't need it and is often used when out partying to keep the party going. All this talk and assumption it was used to enhance their performance is really just a big reach

Hey we signed some bad ass bad boys. This shouldn't be a big surprise. As long as it isn't attached to the playing field I'm not going to assume it is.

 

[scutterhawk]

I love it.

Great teams cheat.

MJ cheated at everything from cards to basketball.

Oregon has made a juggernaut out of it. The SEC has near made a mint out of it.

As Barkley once said "If you ain't cheatin, you ain't tryin."

After years of watching my Huskies slide into the cess pool, "trying to win the right way" - I am excited to root for a team that everyone else will hate because they don't give a cr*p, they only care about winning....not how it happens.

In professional sports, it isn't how you play the game but whether you win or lose that matters.

Nahh, I'd rather we do things like they've been doing for a few Years now with the little ones, Just give them ALL trophies, then that way the players on losing teams don't have issues with low self esteem,,,,,, problem solved.

 

[scutterhawk]

Is Adderall now the 13th man?

In all seriousness, you guys worried there may be a wave of suspensions on the seahawks roster now that it at least appears that Adderall use runs higher in the seahawks locker room. Between Sherman's comments and the suspensions that have already happened, it doesnt look good.

Bullshit Freak, it don't "appear" squat, Sherman's comment's were about the ENTIRE League using the stuff, Niners are just as likely using PED's also :49ersmall:

 

[scutterhawk]

TRUTH>

not one cute name...you sure this isn't just from those here looking for attention.

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[razgriz737]

Lame...the only people i see talking about this online or in the media is the guys here looking for attention. Very lame....the only reason anyone outside of this forum will ever say aderall seahawks or any version of what has been posted here is because of immature guys here looking for attention, hoping to start some nick name they want to call there own. You ignore this and so will the media. Hell, they have ignored us for years, why would they stop now.

Then obviously you're not looking outside this forum. At the moment, if you go read anything Seahawks related on ESPN or NFL.com, you'll see it. Not only that, but it's typically other fan bases stirring the pot for Hawk fans that are offended by it. I don't think anyone here is looking for attention, and a guarantee you that Hawk fans didn't come up with any nicknames. Do your research before making ignorant comments about your own fanbase.

I am confused then. News is news, the media is reporting this as is expected. But at 4 sites i went to, not one is making up cute little Seaderall Hawks or similair names for our beloved team like i see a few doing here. I only see that here. Just saying, don't fan the flames, it is bad enough as it is.


http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100000 ... -violation

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/92870 ... four-games

http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcwest/post/_/ ... -a-pattern

http://aol.sportingnews.com/nfl/story/2 ... ce-enhanci

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/seat ... eds-051713



not one cute name...you sure this isn't just from those here looking for attention.

What? Did you read the comments in those links? There's mention of "Seadderall" in almost every comment thread.

 

[HawkWow]

Being the 2nd youngest team in the league is 90% upside. I think our rash of PED busts fall under the other 10%. As young as we are, I question whether or not we have an absolute leader (on the D side). Someone needs to step up. ..and soon.

It's been reported that Winfield is such a guy, but it's unlikely he will be with us for very long. I am hopeful his locker room demeanor / presense will rub off on a guy like Earl (who will be with us for a long time).

It's starting to feel like the inmates have the keys to the asylum aka USC North.

Pete needs to lay the law down on all of this extra-curricular stuff. As much as some of you believe he is just so cuddly cute with his antics, I think Sherman should be the first to have a sit-down with Pete and JS. "Toning things down" should start with him, IMO.

It appears many of you don't care how we win..as long as we win. I assume this is the new, short attention span generation that prefers the quick gratification of MMA to boxing (as an example). I think most of us that have followed this team since it's inception would prefer to win clean (and asterisk free).

In summary:
1) We need a defensive leader.

2) Sherm needs to STFU.

3) Pete, after drafting even more players with "character issues", needs to maintain a very tight leash, starting immediately.

4) Go Hawks (but go with dignity).

Thinks me.

 

[ImTheScientist]

I love everything about this program currently.i want to see Sherman stay how he is, think we have plenty of leaders....just because they don't act the way you want them too doesn't mean we don't have leadership. These boys work hard and play hard. They have confidence.

 

[Pandion Haliaetus]

Being the 2nd youngest team in the league is 90% upside. I think our rash of PED busts fall under the other 10%. As young as we are, I question whether or not we have an absolute leader (on the D side). Someone needs to step up. ..and soon.

It's been reported that Winfield is such a guy, but it's unlikely he will be with us for very long. I am hopeful his locker room demeanor / presense will rub off on a guy like Earl (who will be with us for a long time).

It's starting to feel like the inmates have the keys to the asylum aka USC North.

Pete needs to lay the law down on all of this extra-curricular stuff. As much as some of you believe he is just so cuddly cute with his antics, I think Sherman should be the first to have a sit-down with Pete and JS. "Toning things down" should start with him, IMO.

It appears many of you don't care how we win..as long as we win. I assume this is the new, short attention span generation that prefers the quick gratification of MMA to boxing (as an example). I think most of us that have followed this team since it's inception would prefer to win clean (and asterisk free).

In summary:
1) We need a defensive leader.

2) Sherm needs to STFU.

3) Pete, after drafting even more players with "character issues", needs to maintain a very tight leash, starting immediately.

4) Go Hawks (but go with dignity).

Thinks me.

1) We kind of do: Clemons, Bryant, Mebane, and now Chanchellor is getting paid now to be leaders. But you guys are seriously talking about character now? These YOUNG guys got caught with Adderall, big whoop, its not like their taking HGH, or roids, or smoking up weed. Or physically abusing women.

In Holmgren's day, he drafted Stevens who an unconvicted rapist had his fair of troubles in Arizona, Locklear and Fisher physically abused their Girlfriends, we all know about Hill, and even Kerney allowed someone to be raped in his house.

2) I rather not have Sherman shut up, defenses need to have attitude, and Sherman knows what he is exactly doing, he's smarter than his persona and ego, and he does what he does to get under other player's skin. I like that. What CB is going to go up to Tom Brady and talk trash to his face. As long as a player can walk the walk, I don't care if he talks the talk. Its fun when Sherman's reputation makes an offensive lineman attack him when he's only having a friendly convo with opposition's QB.

3) While I agree with this statement but unless a team hires a person to babysit every member of the team, players are going to do what they feel. Its their choice and they'll face the consequences. But this isn't Tim Ruskell's team but its not exactly like were the Bengals.

4) GO Hawks but if you want absolute perfection, get over it.

 

[ImTheScientist]

Being the 2nd youngest team in the league is 90% upside. I think our rash of PED busts fall under the other 10%. As young as we are, I question whether or not we have an absolute leader (on the D side). Someone needs to step up. ..and soon.

It's been reported that Winfield is such a guy, but it's unlikely he will be with us for very long. I am hopeful his locker room demeanor / presense will rub off on a guy like Earl (who will be with us for a long time).

It's starting to feel like the inmates have the keys to the asylum aka USC North.

Pete needs to lay the law down on all of this extra-curricular stuff. As much as some of you believe he is just so cuddly cute with his antics, I think Sherman should be the first to have a sit-down with Pete and JS. "Toning things down" should start with him, IMO.

It appears many of you don't care how we win..as long as we win. I assume this is the new, short attention span generation that prefers the quick gratification of MMA to boxing (as an example). I think most of us that have followed this team since it's inception would prefer to win clean (and asterisk free).

In summary:
1) We need a defensive leader.

2) Sherm needs to STFU.

3) Pete, after drafting even more players with "character issues", needs to maintain a very tight leash, starting immediately.

4) Go Hawks (but go with dignity).

Thinks me.

1) We kind of do: Clemons, Bryant, Mebane, and now Chanchellor is getting paid now to be leaders. But you guys are seriously talking about character now? These YOUNG guys got caught with Adderall, big whoop, its not like their taking HGH, or roids, or smoking up weed. Or physically abusing women.

In Holmgren's day, he drafted Stevens who an unconvicted rapist had his fair of troubles in Arizona, Locklear and Fisher physically abused their Girlfriends, we all know about Hill, and even Kerney allowed someone to be raped in his house.

2) I rather not have Sherman shut up, defenses need to have attitude, and Sherman knows what he is exactly doing, he's smarter than his persona and ego, and he does what he does to get under other player's skin. I like that. What CB is going to go up to Tom Brady and talk trash to his face. As long as a player can walk the walk, I don't care if he talks the talk. Its fun when Sherman's reputation makes an offensive lineman attack him when he's only having a friendly convo with opposition's QB.

3) While I agree with this statement but unless a team hires a person to babysit every member of the team, players are going to do what they feel. Its their choice and they'll face the consequences. But this isn't Tim Ruskell's team but its not exactly like were the Bengals.

4) GO Hawks but if you want absolute perfection, get over it.

:13: beautiful post.

 

[NinerLifer]

But seriously, if a player is using a PED you have seen that player make plays while being on it.

Finish your sentences NL.
Like, "But seriously, if a > 49r < player is using a PED you have seen that player make plays while being on it", as there is undoubtedly, use of PEDs throughout the League.

Yes it is ASSUMED that PED's are in use on all the teams in the league, except on the Seahawks....where it is a FACT.

 

[The Radish]

But seriously, if a player is using a PED you have seen that player make plays while being on it.

Finish your sentences NL.
Like, "But seriously, if a > 49r < player is using a PED you have seen that player make plays while being on it", as there is undoubtedly, use of PEDs throughout the League.

Yes it is ASSUMED that PED's are in use on all the teams in the league, except on the Seahawks....where it is a FACT.

Opps, newspaper this morning, I think it was an Eagles player just suspended for PEDs of some sort.

I know, I know, we hate it when facts get in the way of opinions.

:roll:

 

[NinerLifer]

Nope, it's just a fact on the Eagles apparently as well that's all.

 

[CEHawk]

As we're discussing in the Shack, guys cheat on every team and on every play. I'll get sick of trying to defend us to people I'm sure, but if we win I won't really care.

The problem with that is we all assume that every team has players who use PEDS and just don't get caught. Unfortunately on your team nobody has to assume and it is a proven fact.

And to say a player is cheating every time they hold somebody or whatever on the field is like comparing apples to oranges. Holding on the field is only risking a flag, not a 4 game suspension. Not quite the same thing LOL!

The thing is that Adderall is hardly performance enhancing and was most likely used during a drinking party. I am not sure why people are so ignorant about the drug but very few athletes would use this during game play. It's not cheating, and in people that truly have ADHD or ADD it mellows them out... allowing them to concentrate. It is not a drug that just makes you concentrate. It's for Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder. for those who do not have the issue with ADHD it acts as a stimulant but has almost all of the euphoria affects removed. Unless you use it on a regular basis, you do not feel normal or enhanced on this drug, it would be a liability on the field in my opinion. So this cheating nonsense is just a bunch of crap.

I would hold your tongue as a 49er fan as it's just a matter of time before your team has an issue other than anti gay slander issues. These are athletes and not world scholars and scientists we are talking about here, most of them did not grow up in the same neighborhoods as you and I. Then they are given a few million dollars and there are bound to be issues. Adderall is not cocaine, it doesn't make you better on the field it is something people take to stay up when partying if they really don't have ADD or ADHD. Get over it...

 

[scutterhawk]

But seriously, if a player is using a PED you have seen that player make plays while being on it.

Finish your sentences NL.
Like, "But seriously, if a > 49r < player is using a PED you have seen that player make plays while being on it", as there is undoubtedly, use of PEDs throughout the League.

Yes it is ASSUMED that PED's are in use on all the teams in the league, except on the Seahawks....where it is a FACT.

Go ahead and twist shit around all you desire NinerLoser, But you know deep in your gut that I'm right, and that's all that matters to me.

 

[BlueTalon]

Winning cures all. The day after SBXL*, the entire world knew the Seahawks were robbed. Years later? It's a done deal, they have the trophy. The Patriots and their cheating video tactics? Few people really care, and nobody is taking their trophies.

If we win it all, there might be a lot of people b*tching about it initially, but the voices will fade.

 

[seahawksflow]

As we're discussing in the Shack, guys cheat on every team and on every play. I'll get sick of trying to defend us to people I'm sure, but if we win I won't really care.

The problem with that is we all assume that every team has players who use PEDS and just don't get caught. Unfortunately on your team nobody has to assume and it is a proven fact.

And to say a player is cheating every time they hold somebody or whatever on the field is like comparing apples to oranges. Holding on the field is only risking a flag, not a 4 game suspension. Not quite the same thing LOL!

The thing is that Adderall is hardly performance enhancing and was most likely used during a drinking party. I am not sure why people are so ignorant about the drug but very few athletes would use this during game play. It's not cheating, and in people that truly have ADHD or ADD it mellows them out... allowing them to concentrate. It is not a drug that just makes you concentrate. It's for Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder. for those who do not have the issue with ADHD it acts as a stimulant but has almost all of the euphoria affects removed. Unless you use it on a regular basis, you do not feel normal or enhanced on this drug, it would be a liability on the field in my opinion. So this cheating nonsense is just a bunch of crap.

I would hold your tongue as a 49er fan as it's just a matter of time before your team has an issue other than anti gay slander issues. These are athletes and not world scholars and scientists we are talking about here, most of them did not grow up in the same neighborhoods as you and I. Then they are given a few million dollars and there are bound to be issues. Adderall is not cocaine, it doesn't make you better on the field it is something people take to stay up when partying if they really don't have ADD or ADHD. Get over it...

That is the problem. Either these guys are stupid and selfish enough to effect the entire team and organization for a party drug that according to you does nothing for their on field performance. Or they are taking something else and just riding the Adderall label. I would think they are not selfish enough to bring consequences on the entire organization for a night of partying... but then that would insinuate something worse. Either way, it says nothing good about a chunk of the guys in the locker room.

 

[RichNhansom]

seahawksflow siad: That is the problem. Either these guys are stupid and selfish enough to effect the entire team and organization for a party drug that according to you does nothing for their on field performance. Or they are taking something else and just riding the Adderall label. I would think they are not selfish enough to bring consequences on the entire organization for a night of partying... but then that would insinuate something worse. Either way, it says nothing good about a chunk of the guys in the locker room.


Maybe you have never made a bad decision when you were out partying. I have. These guys are young. Get some booze in em and a hot girl teasing them and the idea of partying all night probably sounds pretty good.

You ever wake up the morning after and regret something you did or said?

As for masking. Think about it. You are implying they know the real information will never come out so they are attempting damage control by selecting a less perceived drug. Don't you think they would select a drug like Marijuana instead of a substance that has previously been tied to performance enhancing?