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kidhawk":3cr6bbpc said:
I just listened to his post game press conference and I’m not getting what you are. If there’s some audio out there of him saying the things you are quoting can you link them? All I’ve found so far was a short snippet after the game and his official press conference.

It was on tv on the channel 13 seahawks post game.
 

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kidhawk":14v44gei said:
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So in DKs interview he mentioned on that play the ball was supposed to go to Tyler, but Wilson decided otherwise. Some ask if Wilson every goes against the calls, well yes, he is just not vocal about it. Sometimes actions speak louder than words. You don't need to yell at a coach to get your point across. PS the throw to Tyler was there, but not enough to get the 1st.

Are you trolling or do you not understand how football plays work? I’ll assume the latter.

When Schottenheimer calls a play each receiver has a route each blocker has their assignments. Every passing play has a number one receiver. A quarterbacks job is to read the field and decide if that first route is open or covered then move to the next receiver and continue through this progression until he finds someone he can throw the ball to. On this play DK wasn’t the primary receiver but that doesn’t mean the he wasn’t part of the many options the play calls for. This has nothing to do with RW jacking the coaches and everything to do with him understanding how to read defenses and make plays


I don't like some of his posts.. but ... are YOU trolling or can you JUST NOT READ WHAT HE WROTE?!?!?!

Literally you multi k posters are the literal reason it took me so long to sign up

YOU sir cannot be serious.... I cannot.... for the life of me fathom your grasp of the English language.

Holy crap...... ROFL This board is HILARIOUS
 

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John63":ybqwurej said:
kidhawk":ybqwurej said:
John63":ybqwurej said:
So in DKs interview he mentioned on that play the ball was supposed to go to Tyler, but Wilson decided otherwise. Some ask if Wilson every goes against the calls, well yes, he is just not vocal about it. Sometimes actions speak louder than words. You don't need to yell at a coach to get your point across. PS the throw to Tyler was there, but not enough to get the 1st.

Are you trolling or do you not understand how football plays work? I’ll assume the latter.

When Schottenheimer calls a play each receiver has a route each blocker has their assignments. Every passing play has a number one receiver. A quarterbacks job is to read the field and decide if that first route is open or covered then move to the next receiver and continue through this progression until he finds someone he can throw the ball to. On this play DK wasn’t the primary receiver but that doesn’t mean the he wasn’t part of the many options the play calls for. This has nothing to do with RW jacking the coaches and everything to do with him understanding how to read defenses and make plays


Ahh hmm really I seem to recall a certain Sb play called which was a timing route to a specific Wr and the HC said that was the only place he was allowed to go with the ball. I also recall a Wr screen that got blown up and there was someone ls open but PC said in the interview on Wr screen the ball can only go to the WR. These are plays that are designed to go to specific people and only to them. There is a reason for that, most timing routes are like that, most screen passes are like that. In this case given it was a Wr screen, there not supposed to be any other choice as you don't have time, however Wilson saw something pre snap, and he went someplace else and it worked, despite it being a WR screen that is only suppose to go to one place. Now was it to send a message? I am not sure but I could see it being a message.

Don't be dense, screens are a different type of play.
 

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balakoth":j7dtlz2w said:
kidhawk":j7dtlz2w said:
John63":j7dtlz2w said:
So in DKs interview he mentioned on that play the ball was supposed to go to Tyler, but Wilson decided otherwise. Some ask if Wilson every goes against the calls, well yes, he is just not vocal about it. Sometimes actions speak louder than words. You don't need to yell at a coach to get your point across. PS the throw to Tyler was there, but not enough to get the 1st.

Are you trolling or do you not understand how football plays work? I’ll assume the latter.

When Schottenheimer calls a play each receiver has a route each blocker has their assignments. Every passing play has a number one receiver. A quarterbacks job is to read the field and decide if that first route is open or covered then move to the next receiver and continue through this progression until he finds someone he can throw the ball to. On this play DK wasn’t the primary receiver but that doesn’t mean the he wasn’t part of the many options the play calls for. This has nothing to do with RW jacking the coaches and everything to do with him understanding how to read defenses and make plays


I don't like some of his posts.. but ... are YOU trolling or can you JUST NOT READ WHAT HE WROTE?!?!?!

Literally you multi k posters are the literal reason it took me so long to sign up

YOU sir cannot be serious.... I cannot.... for the life of me fathom your grasp of the English language.

Holy crap...... ROFL This board is HILARIOUS

The difference here is I’m engaging in a discussion with him to understand his post. What you are doing is just trying to be difficult.

As you have seen we have been able to discuss our differences in this thread whereas there is nothing to discuss with your post
 

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John63":x8ts77i3 said:
kidhawk":x8ts77i3 said:
I just listened to his post game press conference and I’m not getting what you are. If there’s some audio out there of him saying the things you are quoting can you link them? All I’ve found so far was a short snippet after the game and his official press conference.

It was on tv on the channel 13 seahawks post game.

Hopefully they’ll post it online so we can both be talking about the same thing because everything I’ve heard him say doesn’t sound anything like what it sounds like he said on that show.
 
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jlwaters1":2t7nswqd said:
John63":2t7nswqd said:
kidhawk":2t7nswqd said:
John63":2t7nswqd said:
So in DKs interview he mentioned on that play the ball was supposed to go to Tyler, but Wilson decided otherwise. Some ask if Wilson every goes against the calls, well yes, he is just not vocal about it. Sometimes actions speak louder than words. You don't need to yell at a coach to get your point across. PS the throw to Tyler was there, but not enough to get the 1st.

Are you trolling or do you not understand how football plays work? I’ll assume the latter.

When Schottenheimer calls a play each receiver has a route each blocker has their assignments. Every passing play has a number one receiver. A quarterbacks job is to read the field and decide if that first route is open or covered then move to the next receiver and continue through this progression until he finds someone he can throw the ball to. On this play DK wasn’t the primary receiver but that doesn’t mean the he wasn’t part of the many options the play calls for. This has nothing to do with RW jacking the coaches and everything to do with him understanding how to read defenses and make plays


Ahh hmm really I seem to recall a certain Sb play called which was a timing route to a specific Wr and the HC said that was the only place he was allowed to go with the ball. I also recall a Wr screen that got blown up and there was someone ls open but PC said in the interview on Wr screen the ball can only go to the WR. These are plays that are designed to go to specific people and only to them. There is a reason for that, most timing routes are like that, most screen passes are like that. In this case given it was a Wr screen, there not supposed to be any other choice as you don't have time, however Wilson saw something pre snap, and he went someplace else and it worked, despite it being a WR screen that is only suppose to go to one place. Now was it to send a message? I am not sure but I could see it being a message.

Don't be dense, screens are a different type of play.


Ahh and yet if you look that is exactly what it was. So dont be dense your self.
 
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kidhawk":2uvt44aa said:
John63":2uvt44aa said:
kidhawk":2uvt44aa said:
I just listened to his post game press conference and I’m not getting what you are. If there’s some audio out there of him saying the things you are quoting can you link them? All I’ve found so far was a short snippet after the game and his official press conference.

It was on tv on the channel 13 seahawks post game.

Hopefully they’ll post it online so we can both be talking about the same thing because everything I’ve heard him say doesn’t sound anything like what it sounds like he said on that show.
I suspect it will be available on line tomorrow.
 

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John63":36wqt9c2 said:
So in DKs interview he mentioned on that play the ball was supposed to go to Tyler, but Wilson decided otherwise. Some ask if Wilson every goes against the calls, well yes, he is just not vocal about it. Sometimes actions speak louder than words. You don't need to yell at a coach to get your point across. PS the throw to Tyler was there, but not enough to get the 1st.
Saying that the ball was 'supposed' to go there is misleading. Tyler may have been the first option as the play was called, but when you see the coverage, and then the blitzing safety leave DK one on one, with NO safety help over the top, it's a no-brainer to choose DK in that situation. QB's in the NFL do this regularly.
 
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Jazzhawk":2eyzs92p said:
John63":2eyzs92p said:
So in DKs interview he mentioned on that play the ball was supposed to go to Tyler, but Wilson decided otherwise. Some ask if Wilson every goes against the calls, well yes, he is just not vocal about it. Sometimes actions speak louder than words. You don't need to yell at a coach to get your point across. PS the throw to Tyler was there, but not enough to get the 1st.
Saying that the ball was 'supposed' to go there is misleading. Tyler may have been the first option as the play was called, but when you see the coverage, and then the blitzing safety leave DK one on one, with NO safety help over the top, it's a no-brainer to choose DK in that situation. QB's in the NFL do this regularly.


Again agree to disagree
 
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LastRideOut":4749o3uj said:
John63":4749o3uj said:
Again agree to disagree


I do not think you understand how football works.


Lol oh yeah I do. But thanks for the laugh
 

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A great play has to get all this??? :34853_doh:
John..You did it again :lol:
 
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IndyHawk":u91xgsgr said:
A great play has to get all this??? :34853_doh:
John..You did it again :lol:


Actually you did by adding nothing.
 

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chris98251":1p4c1qsu said:
Primary is an option and if Lockett was not where Russell thought he could get the first and DK had steps as the second it wasn't really a bad option.
Agreed ^ I don't think the Eagles Defense was expecting Russ to chunk play the ball to DK like he did, I believe they were caught off guard, as I think they were looking for some easier to defend safe short shots.
 

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Post game interviews with HC Carroll and later with Russ, included BOTH of them citing that the coaches and players went over the likelihood of this very situation coming up and practiced THIS play for it. Russ said the only thing he altered was the way he threw the ball, in order to make sure DK caught it to seal the game. He added that had he laid it out DK might hae scored another TD just like the earlier one. Neither mentioned that someone else was the primary.
See Seahawks.com for those interviews.
 

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John63":1h6mhxl9 said:
IndyHawk":1h6mhxl9 said:
A great play has to get all this??? :34853_doh:
John..You did it again :lol:


Actually you did by adding nothing.

The call signaled in, likely had Lockett as the primary Receiver, thus the reason DK said that INITALLY, he wasn't the designated Receiver for the play called in, though It's OBVIOUS NOW that after reading the Defensive alignment, Wilson Audibled AND CHANGED away from it, by signaling to DK that the ball was coming HIS WAY.
Nothing abnormal about changing a play at the line, Quarterbacks do it all the time.
 

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Well, the ice in Russ' veins is next level. I doubt many QB's in the league would have the guys to make that throw from the pocket against that D line. Some would for sure, but not many. That was nails.
 

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Appyhawk":3pcco3wp said:
Post game interviews with HC Carroll and later with Russ, included BOTH of them citing that the coaches and players went over the likelihood of this very situation coming up and practiced THIS play for it. Russ said the only thing he altered was the way he threw the ball, in order to make sure DK caught it to seal the game. He added that had he laid it out DK might hae scored another TD just like the earlier one. Neither mentioned that someone else was the primary.
See Seahawks.com for those interviews.

So Anthony is incorrect in his assumption.
 

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