Bradfords Future?

Do we keep Bradford or ditch him?

  • I think he has progressed enough and may develop further. Keep as a starter.

    Votes: 7 5.8%
  • He has improved enough to keep but bring in competition to compete.

    Votes: 69 57.0%
  • Draft his replacement or bring in a quality free agent.

    Votes: 38 31.4%
  • Cut him outright.

    Votes: 7 5.8%

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DTiempo81

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I have no interest in a guy on our team who, in the Super Bowl, stands there and watches his assignment sack his QB.

Sure, I understand. I do have Interest in a road grading RG who helped K9 secure the MVP of the Super Bowl, and bring us home a second super bowl trophy. It just happens to be the same guy.

Like I said, definitely bring in competition. But jettisoning the guy because he gave up a sack against Milton Williams seems short sighted. You do you though.
 

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As someone who posted multiple All-22 breakdowns of Seahawk games this year, I think I have a solid awareness of weaknesses on this team.





Feel free to watch Darnold's only sack in the Super Bowl.


Look,

I don't have any problems with you saying Bradford is average or even a bad guard. It's a bit hyperbolic to say he's the biggest reason why plays go backwards.

You can cherry-pick any clips to try to prove a point. Should I cherry-pick clips of Puka Nacua burning Woolen and Witherspoon and call them bad CBs as well? You'll need to do a deep dive into it. Likewise, I'm not going to cherry-pick clips of Bradford blowing dudes off the ball and being a huge part of the running. There are plenty of clips of that this season.

What I'm trying to say is, does Bradford prevent you from winning? The team hasn't lost since November. Prove it to me that Bradford prevents plays from happening. Prove it to me that he's not doing his job on a consistent basis. 1 play out of 10 does not mean he's a bad player.

I'm not saying you're wrong. I am not saying he is great. I'm just saying this isn't proving very much. It's just emotions talking. Bradford is making less than $5M next season. We talking about a starting guard that you just won the Super Bowl with. I'm still rolling with that until I don't have to.
 

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For an offensive line's sustained success, continuity plays an equal role to individual talent. Further, the salary cap dictates that every roster position cannot be filled with a superstar. Finally, we didn't hear Milton Williams name very often in Bradford's biggest game of his career.

Having said all of that, I think that every team should have a policy of annually drafting a quality offensive lineman within the first three rounds because that group occupies nearly fifty percent of the starting offensive unit and natural roster churn dictates that there will be inherently frequent recurring vacancies. It is a position group that requires perpetual player development or otherwise, any given team may end up like the Patriots with an offensive line that simply isn't collectively experienced enough to deal with an elite defensive front. Hence, I wouldn't draft to specifically replace Bradford but instead to simply stay ahead of the fore mentioned recurring vacancies and done so as a matter of following routine roster management ideology. Quality depth at positions that are in high demand will also likely return more compensatory draft picks as well.

We just witnessed a representative example of how winning at the line of scrimmage, on both sides of the ball, can make every other position group better. For Super Bowl LX, winning the line of scrimmage made Seattle's linebackers, secondary, and running backs better and conversely made the quarterback worse for New England.
 
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Getting definite Chris Gray vibes here. Endlessly panned on the board here, but just kept coming back and starting. ;)

Sorry, but watching all-22 from your couch and picking out lowlight clips doesn't make one a coach.

I'd be surprised if they cut Bradford. I'd also be surprised if they don't draft additional O-line help this year.
 

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For an offensive line's sustained success, continuity plays an equal role to individual talent. Further, the salary cap dictates that every roster position cannot be filled with a superstar. Finally, we didn't hear Milton Williams name very often in Bradford's biggest game of his career.

Having said all of that, I think that every team should have a policy of annually drafting a quality offensive lineman in the first three rounds because that group occupies nearly fifty percent of the starting offensive unit and natural roster churn dictates that there will be inherently frequent recurring vacancies. It is a position group that requires perpetual player development or otherwise, any given team may end up like the Patriots with an offensive line that simply isn't collectively experienced enough to deal with an elite defensive front. Hence, I wouldn't draft to specifically replace Bradford but instead to simply stay ahead of the fore mentioned recurring vacancies and done so as a matter of following routine roster management ideology. Quality depth at positions that are in high demand will also likely return more compensatory draft picks as well.

We just witnessed a representative example of how winning at the line of scrimmage, on both sides of the ball, can make every other position group better. For Super Bowl LX, winning the line of scrimmage made Seattle's linebackers, secondary, and running backs better and conversely made the quarterback worse for New England.
Yes.
It's easy to pick on Bradford's flaws, some of which have been blatant and appalling. That can spill into hyperbole without always considering the bigger picture.

The coaches see enough to keep starting him. An immediate replacement is going to cost either draft picks and/or cap space and there's no guarantees. The need to keep adding depth and improvements to the OL is clear. Cap space evaporates quickly when players start getting re-signed. There's a lot of moving pieces, some of which we can't see from outside.

Keep churning, keep improving; I just don't see the need to reach for an immediate replacement when that decision impacts continuity and the ability to retain other pieces. Maybe he ends up replaced, but those decisions have to fit the overall plan.
 
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I would love to replace Bradford. I get that you can find low lights for every player but he makes them so easy to find.
It's a real detriment to the offense to have 4 guys that are pretty good and one traffic cone out there.
 

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That said we have little draft capital so it will be difficult. Last free agency showed how desperate every team is for even average lineman.
 

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If Bradford is the starter next year, then I guess we can all agree Christian Haynes was a wasted 3rd round pick.

Thanks again, Hutch.
 

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What I recall from OTAs and TC is hearing from the coaches how much better conditioned and slimmed down Bradford was... but by the end of the season, he looked like his former self of carrying excess weight in his gut to the tune of 25-30 pounds. What the hell happened??

There's no way he tips the scale at 335... like the roster lists.

To my eye, he looks one Jr. Whopper and small fries shy of 360.
 

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You can't match that power with anyone else. He had some really great blocks this year, but everyone focuses on out takes of the errors he made, which is unfair.

There are a lot of videos that show how valuable he is. And I think with experience, and a good Oline coach, he can be a menace for opposing Pro Bowl DL. He's so powerful that once he gets his hands on them, it's over.
 

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If he doesn’t improve ny the time OTA’s roll around…we can always turn Mills into a Guard.

/sarcasm
 

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We drafted a rookie in the third round two years ago to replace him and he was even worse. Bring in other competition, but I dont see the point in getting rid of him unless another team wants to trade something decent for some reason.
You don’t have any Muskegon bias? 😉
 
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Bradford is not a starter IMO. Backup depth at best. And very probably the most targeted guy by defensive coordinators game planning how to best attack Seattle on offense.
 

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Sam Darnold was having to play the role of a Matador with Pats Linebackers (in particular Milton Williams) being the "bull" coming after him while AB was more often than not a turnstile.

I mean don't get me wrong. That Pats D is no joke and they proved that.

However, what I get from AB is that he is a solid run-blocker but his Pass-pro is sketchy (to say the least), you know?

I think we should draft another RG, imo. (or failing that, find a "steady eddie" at RG in free agency)
 

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Well he's still a starter on the team. Maybe the coaches see improvement with him that rest of us don't. Bradford didn't get benched or waived so he must be showing something to the coaches that make them feel he's worth keeping.
Uhh...do you know who would've replaced him?

There's your answer as to why Bradford didn't get benched or waived.

We need an upgrade there. BADLY.
 
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