Russell Wilson sightings

[FrodosFinger]

Pouted? More like gutsy and self determined. Would you say Warren Moon pouted to the CFL?

Yeah I would because Moon went undrafted due to the fact that he was dark skinned in theory but it was more to do with the dynamics of the league at the time. I mean late 70’s it was 75% run.

 

[SantaClaraHawk]

Which players, exactly?

Every single NFL player has come out in defense of Russ on this one. Payton is a clown.

What players have objected?

What Payton said has likely been said so many times behind the scenes among coaches that he thought at the time it was normal.

 

[Ozzy]

dozens of players, ex players have come out and clowned Payton and taken Russ' side on this. I can't find a single ex player who sides with Payton in this spat. I get it you hate Russ but that doesn't mean he's wrong here. I can post it if you need but man a simple search on any social media platform will bring up a ton of people saying "good on Russ" in this situation. Acho, Whiley, Ryan Clark just to name a couple.

Which players, exactly?


What players have objected?

What Payton said has likely been said so many times behind the scenes among coaches that he thought at the time it was normal.

 

[Ostatehawk]

Even when Russ comes up with a good zinger, he still comes off sounding like a complete douche. I can't stand when people litter their own tweets with laugh emojis after making a joke. I don't text with teenage girls, but I imagine that's something teenage girls do.

Its like explaining the joke after you tell the joke, when the joke is obvious.

 

[SantaClaraHawk]

dozens of players, ex players have come out and clowned Payton and taken Russ' side on this. I can't find a single ex player who sides with Payton in this spat. I get it you hate Russ but that doesn't mean he's wrong here. I can post it if you need but man a simple search on any social media platform will bring up a ton of people saying "good on Russ" in this situation. Acho, Whiley, Ryan Clark just to name a couple.

Well, good on Russ for acting in a way most players and humans can relate to, I guess. Then again, I doubt any free agents avoid signing with Payton over this. I’m sure his players know that what went on with Russ is in a whole other category from Them.

Had Russell had the opportunity to exercise his injury guarantee, he would still be on the team while Payton likely wouldn’t. This was a unique him or me situation, and everyone playing for Payton is ok with Payton having won that fight.

This little brouhaha is already putting Daboll in the position of having to affirm faith in Russell as a qb2 even though Daboll is clearly not feeling it. Kyle Shanahan almost had to send his xfl qb into a live game and he was a thousand times calmer than Daboll who I thought might have a heart attack over having to have Russ there. Doubt he’d do that with Winston going in.

 

[themunn]

We are all forgetting who the real villain in all of this is. It is 100% Pete Carroll. The guy coddled him to the point he no longer improved his game. I 100% believe Russell could have been much better than he is if he let the LOB go at Russ. If Russ is as competitive as he says he is, he would have no problem with any of the team trash talking him. Its how they were trying to make him better. If Pete didn't meddle and coddle Russ, I 100% believe that no one would question Russ being a hall of famer because he would have been that much better.

We are seeing the same thing with the Raiders. He's showing that favoritism to Geno while calling out players who are actually performing.

I don't know how we can call Pete Carroll a villain for his treatment of Russell Wilson when, in his penultimate season he put up 40 TDs and won 12 games. Even in his final season he was 10 TDs to 1 INT in 4.5 games and only after he came back from his broken finger early did he start to decline.

Since Carroll stopped coddling him that decline has accelerated, but one thing we surely can't accuse Carroll of is not getting the absolute best out of Russell Wilson for a decade.

 

[chris98251]

Pouted? More like gutsy and self determined. Would you say Warren Moon pouted to the CFL?

He chose to leave rather then stay, yes he had success, but thats different then Moon, Moon was shunned by the NFL because of his Race at the time. James Harris I believe was the real only succesful Black QB, the mentality and wrong was that Black QB's could handle a complex system on offense that the NFL has. Wilsons always compete Mantra seemed to be missing in NC when he could not compete with Glennon.

 

[Ozzy]

I don't know how we can call Pete Carroll a villain for his treatment of Russell Wilson when, in his penultimate season he put up 40 TDs and won 12 games. Even in his final season he was 10 TDs to 1 INT in 4.5 games and only after he came back from his broken finger early did he start to decline.

Since Carroll stopped coddling him that decline has accelerated, but one thing we surely can't accuse Carroll of is not getting the absolute best out of Russell Wilson for a decade.

Alright this is somewhat fair but I hate the idea that Wilson was only good because of Pete. Wilson deserves credit too for being an absolute monster and a top 3 guy for a decade. Hate him for how he left, hate his corniness, clown him for his decline etc but the revisionist history that he wasn't that good during his reign or it was only because of Pete always drives me nuts and I'm not saying you're saying that either just felt like a good time to piggy back off of it.

Yours truly,
the new john63

 

[SantaClaraHawk]

Silver Minings: Russell Wilson named ‘fit’ for Raiders ahead of trade deadline

A Russell Wilson, Pete Carroll and Geno Smith reunion in Las Vegas?

www.silverandblackpride.com

 

[fire_marshall_bill]

Ugh…why does he make everything about him? Every. Single. Time.

He makes such a big deal about the Children’s Hospital visits, which I think is great…but exactly who are the cameras for? Not there for the kids or their families, or the hospital staff…borderline pathetic at this stage.

But...but the media assured us that he kept it on the d.l.!

 

[fire_marshall_bill]

Well Sierra or however the hell you spell it got her wish. New York (or thereabouts). LOL
Replaced by a rookie...LOL

 

[fire_marshall_bill]

There are genuinely nice people, but by definition, a nice guy is not genuine. His niceness is manipulative and transactional at its core.

He avoids conflict by showing up as whatever he thinks will get him most accepted by the group. People have an unease around him, and distrust of him, because he is insecure, always attempting to be what he thinks others want him to be, instead of taking a stand for who he actually is, and for what he actually believes. Typically he has the attitude of, "I'm not like the others," when, in reality, he is exactly like the others, many times worse than the others, he just hides it under a veil of being an ally. He prioritizes others needs over his own as a way to manipulate, not out of a genuine sense of care. When he gets what he really wants, he is quick to discard the people he used to achieve his goal.

I believe that's Russ. I believe that's why he has left a trail of team mates and coaches who don't seem to like him much. They won't speak ill of him, but it's pretty clear that they don't have the kind of deep friendships that they have with the rest of the team.

I think he's a possible covert narcissist. By the way, I'm not a doctor.

 

[strohmin]

I don't know how we can call Pete Carroll a villain for his treatment of Russell Wilson when, in his penultimate season he put up 40 TDs and won 12 games. Even in his final season he was 10 TDs to 1 INT in 4.5 games and only after he came back from his broken finger early did he start to decline.

Since Carroll stopped coddling him that decline has accelerated, but one thing we surely can't accuse Carroll of is not getting the absolute best out of Russell Wilson for a decade.

I don't believe Pete got the best out of Russell because of the coddling. All the coddling got to Russell's head and he became delusional about what he accomplished. You hear the stories about how Pete would praise Russ when he did something good but would pretend Russ didn't do anything wrong when he would play like hot garbage. Then he would absolutely rip the defense apart holding them to different standards. You see the same thing happening with the Raiders. Pete praising Geno even though he is playing like absolute dogshit and criticizing players who are not playing as bad

 

[SantaClaraHawk]

The Jets should pick up the phone. Russ is arguably better than Fields who was benched for generational journeyman Tyrod Taylor. Everyone is going to understand the Hail Mary mentality of this move but will prefer it to Glenn’s failure to call timeouts as the game is already screwed anyway.

Russ was just clowned nationally by Payton who revealed his exchange with the OWNER. Why would Russ remotely want to stay where he’s a running joke, the equivalent of the guy in the basement from the office?

Exchange sloppy sevenths already.

 

[Rat]

I think he's a possible covert narcissist. By the way, I'm not a doctor.

Covert?

 

[SantaClaraHawk]

Russell Wilson and Sean Payton's feud explained: How years of tension led QB to call his ex-coach 'classless'

Russell Wilson's "classless" comment about Sean Payton didn't come out of nowhere. Here's how years of tension built between the QB and his ex-coach.

www.cbssports.com

 

[SantaClaraHawk]

The wages of tantruming over Russ being a relief qb.

Giants fined $200K, Brian Daboll fined $100K for violating concussion evaluation protocol

Running back Cam Skattebo was also fined $15K for the Week 6 infraction.

www.nbcsports.com

 

[Cyrus12]

Russ screwed Russ and he can look in the mirror and know this - Vincent K Mcmahon

 

[toffee]

I don't know how we can call Pete Carroll a villain for his treatment of Russell Wilson when, in his penultimate season he put up 40 TDs and won 12 games. Even in his final season he was 10 TDs to 1 INT in 4.5 games and only after he came back from his broken finger early did he start to decline.

Since Carroll stopped coddling him that decline has accelerated, but one thing we surely can't accuse Carroll of is not getting the absolute best out of Russell Wilson for a decade.

The way Pete handled Wilson over the last three years before Wilson was traded was conduct unbecoming of a head coach. As a Pete Carroll fanboy, I was quite disappointed and sometimes disturbed.

 

[SantaClaraHawk]

The way Pete handled Wilson over the last three years before Wilson was traded was conduct unbecoming of a head coach. As a Pete Carroll fanboy, I was quite disappointed and sometimes disturbed.

Did Pete ever vacation with Russ or other players? I got that vibe at times. And I’m arguing over on the nfc west thread that Kyle doing so could be the difference between a near guaranteed divisional and ending with whatever wins after McCaffrey gets hurt.

I’m glad mcdonald hasn’t appeared to make more than work friends with Sam or any other player. Im glad he’s not like Jim Harbaugh telling Michigan players ti bring their unplanned newborns to him.