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Those roster spots are very valuable. Using one on a third-string QB makes very little sense. I've read that last year, 12 teams at one point or another, had 3 QBs on their 53-man roster, but a lot of that had to do with trying to get through an injury and not wanting to put someone on IR (because you have to be out a minimum of 4 games if you go on IR). I'm not sure how many teams will keep 3 QBs on their 53-man roster. Anybody know the stats on that?
It's not very many I know but it is what they will do if he is not traded
 
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Took him a while to warm up but that is what we saw against the Texans too. He just needs game reps. It took Alex smith 5 years to move from being flat out terrible to average , and finally 3 more years to make the pro bowl.

Trevor Lawrence and fields were pretty bad their first year of starting.

However, I do think that Lance should not be starting any time soon and would prefer the experience of Darnold as the back up
He’s a $10 million dollar practice squad cap hit. People around the league and media are talking about how insane it is to have a 3rd string $10 million dollar cap hit which goes up to $18 mil next year as a top 3 pick lol bananas 🍌 dog
 

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He’s a $10 million dollar practice squad cap hit. People around the league and media are talking about how insane it is to have a 3rd string $10 million dollar cap hit which goes up to $18 mil next year as a top 3 pick lol bananas 🍌 dog

...um...what?

He's 9.3 this year 10.8 next year.

When the starter is making 900K, I really couldn't care less. Entire QB room this year is making like 12 or 13 which is what CMC makes.
 

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Seems odd to troll the 49ers on their QB salaries when Geno 'I had a good first half of the season' Smith is getting 30 mil in 2024 and 2025.
 

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so he’s a total bust i get it, but one that hasn’t done very much to prove beyond a doubt he’s a bust, that’s the truly unique part of his situation. Nobody proves anything in a handful of games, and the FO apparent belief in Purdy is why Lance is out of time.
Dude had a small sample size of a chance, got hurt, got hurt again, and then got Purdied.
Kid has legit Hall of Fame bad luck skills.
I hope the front office is right about Purdy, because his pro sample size is limited as well.
I mean, what could go wrong here it’s just the 49ers and quarterback stuff?!?
FFs this is the curse you get when you begin your fandom with back to back hall of famers at qb.
Just throw it to Jerry game is simple.
 

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so he’s a total bust i get it, but one that hasn’t done very much to prove beyond a doubt he’s a bust, that’s the truly unique part of his situation. Nobody proves anything in a handful of games, and the FO apparent belief in Purdy is why Lance is out of time.
Dude had a small sample size of a chance, got hurt, got hurt again, and then got Purdied.
Kid has legit Hall of Fame bad luck skills.
I hope the front office is right about Purdy, because his pro sample size is limited as well.
I mean, what could go wrong here it’s just the 49ers and quarterback stuff?!?
FFs this is the curse you get when you begin your fandom with back to back hall of famers at qb.
Just throw it to Jerry game is simple.
He didn't just got Purdied he also got Darnolded (and Garopolloed)

The 49ers trading 3 1sts and a 3rd for Lance was a huge surprise. Jimmy G was and is a perfectly servicable QB he had had a few injury problems of his own but getting a reliable back-up was the obvious option but they chose to bet the farm on Lance dispite him only playing pretty much 1 season at college. Putting that much draft into a player you expect they to play if not GW1 fairly early in their rookie season. Garropollo's injury in GW4 should have been the start of a long career but as soon as Jimmy was fit again Lance was benched, already it was looking as if the decision to get Lance was a poor one. While Lance was given the starting role for 2022 paying 6.5m to keep Jimmy as a back-up was evidence they were not convined with Lance.

Then Purdy happened fair enough, but this off season with uncertainty whether Purdy would be fit for week 1, if they trusted Lance as a starter (only one not quite as good as Purdy) they would have brought in a back-up QB like Brandon Allen ad left it at that, instead they also brought in Sam Darnold, either they knew Lance wasn't good enough or they was enough doubt that that wanted to see over the pre-season whether Lance was better than a fringe starter like Darnold and found out he wasn't.

The 49ers are in almost the same position as if Purdy was picked 3rd overall and Lance was Mr Irrelvent but that desn't mean the drafting of Lance was not a huge mistake.
 

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so he’s a total bust i get it, but one that hasn’t done very much to prove beyond a doubt he’s a bust, that’s the truly unique part of his situation. Nobody proves anything in a handful of games, and the FO apparent belief in Purdy is why Lance is out of time.
Dude had a small sample size of a chance, got hurt, got hurt again, and then got Purdied.
Kid has legit Hall of Fame bad luck skills.
I hope the front office is right about Purdy, because his pro sample size is limited as well.
I mean, what could go wrong here it’s just the 49ers and quarterback stuff?!?
FFs this is the curse you get when you begin your fandom with back to back hall of famers at qb.
Just throw it to Jerry game is simple.
Russell Wilson only needed a few preseason games as a rookie to win the starting job over a veteran we signed to a solid contract. Just sayin', I don't think your excuse for him holds a whole lot of water.
 

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Russell Wilson only needed a few preseason games as a rookie to win the starting job over a veteran we signed to a solid contract. Just sayin', I don't think your excuse for him holds a whole lot of water.
not making any excuses, strawman much?
Dude is a bust, who has not played in three games in a row yet.
That’s just weird to me.
 

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He’s only a bust because of the hype and ridiculous spot at which he was drafted. If he’d been a sixth or seventh round pick due to his lack of college experience, he’d be sitting on a PS learning and getting a chance to see if he could earn a shot at QB 2 or maybe even QB 1 some day. Instead people expected him to be the guy due to everything the Niners gave up to overdraft him.

Niners management screwed up on this one, and it’s hurting Lance as much as anyone (though his wallet is fatter than it would have been).
 

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He’s only a bust because of the hype and ridiculous spot at which he was drafted. If he’d been a sixth or seventh round pick due to his lack of college experience, he’d be sitting on a PS learning and getting a chance to see if he could earn a shot at QB 2 or maybe even QB 1 some day. Instead people expected him to be the guy due to everything the Niners gave up to overdraft him.

Niners management screwed up on this one, and it’s hurting Lance as much as anyone (though his wallet is fatter than it would have been).
Bingo.

I was completely baffled how anyone in the league was considering Lance in the 1st round, let alone the top 5! I celebrated the pick because Mac Jones would've been perfect for Kyle's system, and I knew there was a 90+% chance Lance would bust.

There were some tools and traits there that were obvious to being an NFL prospect. But he was a massive project. Like he needs to spend his entire rookie contract developing kind of project. But due to so few snaps at the amateur levels he needed to play. A catch-22.

He played little QB in high school, barely started in FCS. literally the least experienced QB to come into the league in my lifetime, probably ever. He needed/needs 4-6 years in the oven. Which can work as a late rounder, taking a flyer, see if it works out. Top 5? Insane.

49ers were/are trying to win now. It made no sense. Kyle has been exposed as someone who can't develop a QB as well. He mismanaged Lance the whole way. Kyle has a great system, probably the best. But he needs a readymade QB that already knows what they are doing. That is why Purdy succeeded. Purdy is smaller, has a limited arm, and was the last pick in the draft for a reason, but he started a ton in college and already knows how to play, he just needs/needed to learn the system.

If Purdy face-plants coming off of the injury, look for them to go get Kirk Cousins in the off-season, or some other veteran the can get their grubby mitts on. They won't be spending a 1st or 2nd rounder on a QB any time soon after this debacle.
 
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Bingo.

I was completely baffled how anyone in the league was considering Lance in the 1st round, let alone the top 5! I celebrated the pick because Mac Jones would've been perfect for Kyle's system, and I knew there was a 90+% chance Lance would bust.

There were some tools and traits there that were obvious to being an NFL prospect. But he was a massive project. Like he needs to spend his entire rookie contract developing kind of project. But due to so few snaps at the amateur levels he needed to play. A catch-22.

He played little QB in high school, barely started in FCS. literally the least experienced QB to come into the league in my lifetime, probably ever. He needed/needs 4-6 years in the oven. Which can work as a late rounder, taking a flyer, see if it works out. Top 5? Insane.

49ers were/are trying to win now. It made no sense. Kyle has been exposed as someone who can't develop a QB as well. He mismanaged Lance the whole way. Kyle has a great system, probably the best. But he needs a readymade QB that already knows what they are doing. That is why Purdy succeeded. Purdy is smaller, has a limited arm, and was the last pick in the draft for a reason, but he started a ton in college and already knows how to play, he just needs/needed to learn the system.

If Purdy face-plants coming off of the injury, look for them to go get Kirk Cousins in the off-season, or some other veteran the can get their grubby mitts on. They won't be spending a 1st or 2nd rounder on a QB any time soon after this debacle.
Agreed. Mac Jones would’ve balled out. Stetson Bennett would’ve balled his nutts off in that system
 

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not making any excuses, strawman much?
Dude is a bust, who has not played in three games in a row yet.
That’s just weird to me.
There is no straw man argument in what I said, but I understand the desire of your subconscious to try and explain away your statement through any means possible.
 
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49ers with an all time blunder. Traded 3 firsts and a third only to trade away said player 2 years later for a fourth. This is the kind of move that would get most GM’s fired
 

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I guess there's a sucker born every minute. Wow, Jerry, way to pick up his whole salary as well.
 

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