Why '23 will be better than '22: Front 7

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I mentioned before the draft that I thought they might be looking for a quicker NT rather than a traditional 340 plodder. Time will tell.
My thought as well. It looks as if PC/JS
Look at the situation differently than many on .net .

I'm thinking with their additions , they're looking at a smaller ( not much) platoon
Approach subbing all game . Fast ,fresh
For 4 quarters. Their is very little difference for Seattle regarding 4-3 to 3-4.
 
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My thought as well. It looks as if PC/JS
Look at the situation differently than many on .net .

I'm thinking with their additions , they're looking at a smaller ( not much) platoon
Approach subbing all game . Fast ,fresh
For 4 quarters. Their is very little difference for Seattle regarding 4-3 to 3-4.
We may need a rotation of 2-3 NT to keep the legs fresh and quick. We have Young, probably a full timer, Reed, probably a part timer, we may need one more.
 

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We may need a rotation of 2-3 NT to keep the legs fresh and quick. We have Young, probably a full timer, Reed, probably a part timer, we may need one more.
Could Edwards play any NT or do they envision him in a DE role only ?
 
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DEJarran ReedMario EdwardsMike MorrisJonah TavelJordan Ferguson
NTCameroon YoungRobert Cooper?Jarran ReedMone (injured)
DEDre'Mont JonesMyles AdamsM.J. Anderson, Ifeanyi Maijeh
OLBBoye MafeTaylorVi JonesCam Bright
MLBBobby WagnerNick BelloreJoshua OnugioguMichael Ayers
MLBDevin BushJon RhattiganJordyn Brooks (injured)Robert Barnes
OLBUchenna Nwosu
Derick Hall
Tyreka SmithPatrick O’Connell

So MANY new faces, how long would it take to gel?
 
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DEJarran ReedMario EdwardsMike MorrisJonah TavelJordan Ferguson
NTCameroon YoungRobert Cooper?Jarran ReedMone (injured)
DEDre'Mont JonesMyles AdamsM.J. Anderson, Ifeanyi Maijeh
OLBBoye MafeTaylorVi JonesCam Bright
MLBBobby WagnerNick BelloreJoshua OnugioguMichael Ayers
MLBDevin BushJordyn BrooksJon RhattiganRobert Barnes
OLBUchenna Nwosu
Derick Hall
Tyreka SmithPatrick O’Connell

So MANY new faces, how long would it take to gel?
I think defense can gel quickly. They have a lot of people who have been there to go with all the new dudes.

What's your thoughts?
 

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I sure hope that you are right, or else, we shall be in trouble?
They finished as poorly as I can ever remember. 28 -29th? IDK

What if they could get to 15th or better to go with what I think will be a top 5 offense and who knows??

I think the defense is top 10 by the end of the season. Whether they figure it out in time is up to the coaching staff.
 
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They finished as poorly as I can ever remember. 28 -29th? IDK

What if they could get to 15th or better to go with what I think will be a top 5 offense and who knows??

I think the defense is top 10 by the end of the season. Whether they figure it out in time is up to the coaching staff.
To my untrained eyes, the defense of the '22 season was a mystery. We started below average, dropped for a few games, then suddenly we were good. The good defense didn't last though, it went from good to bad to unthinkably bad. A yo yo kind of season.
 

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To my untrained eyes, the defense of the '22 season was a mystery. We started below average, dropped for a few games, then suddenly we were good. The good defense didn't last though, it went from good to bad to unthinkably bad. A yo yo kind of season.
Yes !! Exactly and the big question to me is " how the heck did that happen?"

I know the other 31 teams are looking at what you're doing and figure things out and it's a game of adjustments. But holy batman Seattle got adjusted 😂.

It's a lot like MLB when opposing teams find a batter's weakness and exploit it until it can be answered.
 

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Not sure Edwards played NT? He sure would be undersized?
Thats what I was thinking but I don't know much haha.

What's the magic weight for NT? 300? 330? My question is what if you have a guy but he's only 290? That 30-40 LB might make a difference over a 60 minute game but what if they were a little smaller but frequently rotated ?

Just discussing
 
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Thats what I was thinking but I don't know much haha.

What's the magic weight for NT? 300? 330? My question is what if you have a guy but he's only 290? That 30-40 LB might make a difference over a 60 minute game but what if they were a little smaller but frequently rotated ?

Just discussing
A typical Center and Guards weight around 320lbs? NTs often have to take on double team. I guess a light weight NT has some disadvantage?
 

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A typical Center and Guards weight around 320lbs? NTs often have to take on double team. I guess a light weight NT has some disadvantage?
I see what you're saying. I thought "what's 20 lbs between friends?" But battling 650-700 lbs for 60 minutes could be harsh at 290.

290 ? Sheeesh what a lightweight !!
 
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I see what you're saying. I thought "what's 20 lbs between friends?" But battling 650-700 lbs for 60 minutes could be harsh at 290.

290 ? Sheeesh what a lightweight !!
LOL, I never played ball ... what do I know? My roommate in college tried out to play Center at our SEC program. He was too small and way too slow, so he ended up roommate with he. I remember him to be 6'2" 250-260lbs, that was the '70s, players were smaller then.
 

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There are very, very few NTs that can play 80% snap so expect to see a rotation at NT. Also, interesting to see how the team is focusing on younger players at NT.
 

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LOL maybe in some locations, kids from Snohomish and Marysville Pilchuck always ran big, I was a 125 pound CB/WR and had to block Curt Marsh on one play, look him up......
Shane Pahokua I played against back in the day he played for Marysville-Pilchuck. Badass safety played for the Dawgs. Drafted by the saints I believe
 

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Doubled your weight!!!
He was closer to 275, remember they weigh you in High School at the start of the season which is August before you go back to school for Football programs back then, he was already working on adding his weight to go to UW which he had a soft commitment to, had chances to go to Michigan, Notre Dame, and just about every other major program back then. That Snohomish team and two prior as well as a few after won the State Championship, I think they had like 5 or 6 kids that got full rides from that year.
 
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