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[Rock_the_Hawk]

Against SF the guy had an 80 percent completion ratio and had two big plays that were called back due to peneltys. I dont think Geno is the problem..i think the Hawks O needs to eliminate the peneltys...

 

[Sgt. Largent]

Does Pete not know he could've made the adjustment and opened it up during the game? Why is he so darn slow to adjust? What was going through his head as he watched his offense do nothing for another half?

What if in this game the best strategy is to run the ball due to ATL's bad run def?

Now Geno is gonna end up with a bunch of turnovers with the Seahawks losing the game. Pete afterwards "We need to run the ball more."

A day late and a dollar short, Pete.

Pete doesn't actually mean any of this, it's just what he says to satiate the locker room and the media.

Pete: "We're going to play Seahawk football, protect the ball, strong run game, play action."

Seahawks on Sunday: Three turnovers, bad run game, no one respects the pass cause Geno's the QB"

Pete on Monday: "Umm yeah, I'm going to let Geno throw it more yeah that's the ticket!"

 

[Chukarhawk]

Point is, Geno CAN "sling it" just as well as "The Kid"...Being careless & throwing PANIC balls is exciting?? who'd a thunk it.
The Offensive Line is not going grow their NEEDED skills sitting on the bench because of the exciting hurry up 3 & outs, eh?

Geno has never proved he can throw deep with any accuracy or consistency. When he did, he was a turnover machine. Lock will get you more yards, 1st downs and TD's but will throw picks. Zero shot? or some shot? Either way were getting a high draft pick. Id rather watch Lock play than Geno.

 

[hawkfan68]

The bottom line is the team, for whatever reason, has trouble putting up points with Geno. In two games this year they have a total of 24 points. Last year they had one game with Geno at QB where they put up over 21 points. The lack of scoring has now become a consistent issue with Geno.

 

[Fade]

Pete doesn't actually mean any of this, it's just what he says to satiate the locker room and the media.

Pete: "We're going to play Seahawk football, protect the ball, strong run game, play action."

Seahawks on Sunday: Three turnovers, bad run game, no one respects the pass cause Geno's the QB"

Pete on Monday: "Umm yeah, I'm going to let Geno throw it more yeah that's the ticket!"

I think what Pete is eluding to, is teams are loading the box and taking away the running game. So he needs Geno to be Russ and hit some deep balls to get teams to backoff. Won't happen, Geno is a sack-fumble, and an INT waiting to happen if he plays that style.

Better to just hammer the rock, keep the score down, and dink 'n dunk with Geno using the backs and TEs, while throwing a bone to DK and Lockett every once in a while.

Paying all that money to the WRs looks pretty dumb right now.

 

[James in PA]

With Lock, there will be more points put up on the scoreboard. Unfortunately, they will be in the form of pick 6's from the opposing team!

 

[Sgt. Largent]

I think what Pete is eluding to, is teams are loading the box and taking away the running game. So he needs Geno to be Russ and hit some deep balls to get teams to backoff. Won't happen, Geno is a sack-fumble, and an INT waiting to happen if he plays that style.

Better to just hammer the rock, keep the score down, and dink 'n dunk with Geno using the backs and TEs, while throwing a bone to DK and Lockett every once in a while.

Paying all that money to the WRs looks pretty dumb right now.

Isn't this what they've been trying to do for two weeks?

It'll kind of work against bad to mediocre teams, and it'll look downright gross against elite defenses like the Niners like it did Sunday.

If Penny and Walker can stay healthy and gel with the O-line the run game should get better as the season progresses. But any mistakes by Geno and the offense and the game's over. He has no ability whatsoever to come from behind or be clutch when you need him to. He just doesn't.

 

[knownone]

Isn't this what they've been trying to do for two weeks?

It'll kind of work against bad to mediocre teams, and it'll look downright gross against elite defenses like the Niners like it did Sunday.

If Penny and Walker can stay healthy and gel with the O-line the run game should get better as the season progresses. But any mistakes by Geno and the offense and the game's over. He has no ability whatsoever to come from behind or be clutch when you need him to. He just doesn't.

Geno has seven game-winning drives in his career. So in roughly 20% of his starts, he's come from behind to win. He just has.

He hasn't been the issue thus far, and most of the criticism seems devoid of supporting evidence or context. I get it. He plays the most important position on the team, but still, he's played two games, and neither side of the ball has complemented the other.

 

[Sgt. Largent]

Geno has seven game-winning drives in his career. So in roughly 20% of his starts, he's come from behind to win. He just has.

He hasn't been the issue thus far, and most of the criticism seems devoid of supporting evidence or context. I get it. He plays the most important position on the team, but still, he's played two games, and neither side of the ball has complemented the other.

No where else in NFL fan forums do delusional fans bring up things that happened a decade ago to prove an obvious deficiency in said player's current game.

Geno stinks dude, I don't care what he did 10 years ago for a bad football team that played from behind 90% of the time.

If you've watched the games he's played for the Hawks crapping the bed in the 4th quarter of games and thought "yeah man, we've got a chance cause his come from behind percentage is still 20%!" Then you need to check yourself into a mental hospital.

 

[Rock_the_Hawk]

First of all Geno isnt the same QB he was for most of his career, so stop judging him for what he was in the past. Realize that he has matured as a person and a qb.

Secondly, understand the way Pete works. Pete puts players in position to succeed. He also will not give a player more than what he feels they can handle. So basically if the Hawks are not throwing the ball down field much there is a reason for that. Maybe Pete thinks the O line wont be able to protect the QB? Its the same for every position both O and D, that is part of fhe process they go through during the season until the team starts playing well the they will open it up.


This is the way it always has worked with Carroll. I yhink people dont understand this. People were saying last year why are they playing a deep zone... well the answer to that is because they are not good enough to man up without giving up the big play.

This is the way it works. Its the way it has always been... be patient let the team find its identity and grow into it.

 

[Titus Pullo]

First of all Geno isnt the same QB he was for most of his career, so stop judging him for what he was in the past. Realize that he has matured as a person and a qb.

Secondly, understand the way Pete works. Pete puts players in position to succeed. He also will not give a player more than what he feels they can handle. So basically if the Hawks are not throwing the ball down field much there is a reason for that. Maybe Pete thinks the O line wont be able to protect the QB? Its the same for every position both O and D, that is part of fhe process they go through during the season until the team starts playing well the they will open it up.


This is the way it always has worked with Carroll. I yhink people dont understand this. People were saying last year why are they playing a deep zone... well the answer to that is because they are not good enough to man up without giving up the big play.

This is the way it works. Its the way it has always been... be patient let the team find its identity and grow into it.

Geno is also older and slower than he was before.

 

[Rock_the_Hawk]

Geno is also older and slower than he was before.

So what...he also completed 80 % of his passes

 

[hawkfan68]

So what...he also completed 80 % of his passes

Comp pct means diddly if they don't result in points. Nathan Peterman can also have a high percentage if he's throwing <10 yard passes.

 

[Rock_the_Hawk]

So you would rather Geno throw long into double coverage because your not impressed with his 81.5% completion percentage?

 

[scutterhawk]

I think what Pete is eluding to, is teams are loading the box and taking away the running game. So he needs Geno to be Russ and hit some deep balls to get teams to backoff. Won't happen, Geno is a sack-fumble, and an INT waiting to happen if he plays that style.

Better to just hammer the rock, keep the score down, and dink 'n dunk with Geno using the backs and TEs, while throwing a bone to DK and Lockett every once in a while.

Paying all that money to the WRs looks pretty dumb right now.

We should have what? let our WRs go somewhere else? and then when we get our Franchise Quarterback, he has no one to throw to? Yeah...That makes sense SMH

 

[hawkfan68]

So you would rather Geno throw long into double coverage because your not impressed with his 81.5% completion percentage?

So you are satisfied with his 81.5 completion percentage yielding only 24 total points in 8 quarters with 3/4 of that coming in 2 quarters? Once again, how is his 81.5% leading to scoring points? Last I checked comp pct doesn't lead to wins. Scoring more points than the opponent does. How is he accomplishing the scoring points with his 81.5% comp pct so far?

 

[flv2]

So you would rather Geno throw long into double coverage because your not impressed with his 81.5% completion percentage?

No need for straw-man arguments.

 

[Maelstrom787]

I don't like bringing up Geno's completion percentage. It's misleadingly high. It doesn't reflect his actual level of play, and it's overrated.

With that said, I'm nowhere near benching the guy for Lock. Lock kinda pissed his chance away. Geno'd have a way shorter leash if Lock showed some modicum of competence in the preseason. Geno can hit the intermediate stuff, but he needs help from his running game and his interior line.

Without the running game, neither Geno or Lock can get it done. Point blank. Lock's reckless abandon and Grossman-like "eff it, I'm goin DEEP" stuff doesn't help the team if he doesn't have a running game to move the chains so he can afford to be ballsy.

Also, it's been two games. Yeah, the past six quarters have been uninspiring, but its weird to lay it all on Geno. Whole offense has sucked. Whole team has, if we're keepin' it real.

 

[Rock_the_Hawk]

So you are satisfied with his 81.5 completion percentage yielding only 24 total points in 8 quarters with 3/4 of that coming in 2 quarters? Once again, how is his 81.5% leading to scoring points? Last I checked comp pct doesn't lead to wins. Scoring more points than the opponent does. How is he accomplishing the scoring points with his 81.5% comp pct so far?

Yeah i am happy with Geno performance because i know that its not all about Geno. Its about an offense clicking together everybody doing their job... i know that if there is a part of the O that is not being efficient or working effectively then Carroll will be conservative and simplify things until the issue gets worked out. Thats typically the reason why Carroll teams start out slow.

 

[Chukarhawk]

So what...he also completed 80 % of his passes

because all he throws are checkdowns