Geno Smith...

[sc85sis]

Thanks for posting this.

The 'Geno sucks' posts this season are even more ridiculous than those from last year. Dude has been solid.

But he's not Russell, therefore he sucks, Pete sucks, John sucks, yada yada. It gets tiresome. Literally NO ONE expects Geno to be Russell. All we are hoping for is that either he or Lock - whoever gets the job - is a solid "point guard" (in Pete's terms) who distributres the ball effectively and stays ahead of the chains. If he occasionally can make a great play that is seemingly above his normal level of play, that's a bonus.

 

[fullquartpress]

Terrible. Again, the ball was in his hands. No one said that Colby shouldn't have caught that. Why are you conflating two things?

Because neither imcompletion was 'terrible' in the context of thousands of dropped passes I've seen, but Swain's looked like a tougher chance than either Cobly's chance, or Dareke's chance.
Swain's chance looked tougler to me, because I'm sure I douldn't have jumped that high.
And Freddie is only 6 feet 0 inches tall.
Calvin Johnson was 6 feet 5 inches and had a 4.35 forty time.
Geno just got mixed up and thought he was throwing to Megatron.
And we all lived happily everafter.
The End/

 

[sc85sis]

Colby's catch was harder. It was on his hands, but he also had two guys hanging off of him. Still should have caught it through.

Swain - by NFL standards - was wide open with a couple of steps on his defender.

 

[keasley45]

Because neither imcompletion was 'terrible' in the context of thousands of dropped passes I've seen, but Swain's looked like a tougher chance than either Cobly's chance, or Dareke's chance.
Swain's chance looked tougler to me, because I'm sure I douldn't have jumped that high.
And Freddie is only 6 feet 0 inches tall.
Calvin Johnson was 6 feet 5 inches and had a 4.35 forty time.
Geno just got mixed up and thought he was throwing to Megatron.
And we all lived happily everafter.
The End/

He has the ball between his chin and his arms. Not outsretched, but curled to his chest. It wasn't high and he barely jumped.

ADB'S catch against the Vikings was tough catch. Swains... like is said, if anyone behind him showed a pulse, he would not be #3.

Look at the images again and tell me you think Swain is reachung up for an overthrown ball. For swain to be holding that ball where he is. He'd have to have jumped 5 ft in the air. What your arguing isn't even physically possible. And why? To poo poo Geno's play? It was a great pass. As was the one dropped by 83 that game and the week before, and Fants against the Steelers.

 

[keasley45]

Looks like Matt Corral is out for the year for Carolina.

Their other QBs? Baker Mayfield and Sam Darnold

Ours? Geno Smith, Drew Lock and Jacob Eason.

let that sink in. What a 100% idiotic move by PC To have the worst QBs in the league.

and to the poster that said Geno might be a too 20 or 15 QB in the league cough#&&*bullsh!tcough. Please name 5 starters that today are worse than Geno Smith. Let alone 10.

Yet geno is the top ranked QB this preseason??

 

[sc85sis]

He has the ball between his chin and his arms. Not outsretched, but curled to his chest. It wasn't high and he barely jumped.

ADB'S catch against the Vikings was tough catch. Swains... like is said, if anyone behind him showed a pulse, he would not be #3.

Look at the images again and tell me you think Swain is reachung up for an overthrown ball. For swain to be holding that ball where he is. He'd have to have jumped 5 ft in the air. What your arguing isn't even physically possible. And why? To poo poo Geno's play? It was a great pass. As was the one dropped by 83 that game and the week before, and Fants against the Steelers.

If he jumped a foot, that would be a lot. And again, it shouldn't matter. The ball was RIGHT THERE.

 

[fullquartpress]

This is still a debate? Again. That's Swain, trying to catch the ball with his neck and shoulder instead oh his hands. He's played horribly this preseason. If Eskridge were on the field showing even a pulse, Swain would be demoted. Luck for him, his running mates can't catch a cold either.

If Corbin Smith uses adjective 'terrible', yes, I'll defend Swain, at least for that one incompletion.
And the landing reminded me of a car crash landing.

 

[keasley45]

If he jumped a foot, that would be a lot. And again, it shouldn't matter. The ball was RIGHT THERE.

Exactly. When I played ball, if a wr jumped unnecessarily and even made the catch with his hands or his body instead of just reaching up and grabbing the ball in stride, it was 20 push-ups. The only reason to jump the way Swain did was if there was a ball in traffic and you had to outbody a guy.

But wr rule #3- don't catch the ball with your body. That's why you have hands. In almost every instance when catching a ball coming directly at you, your hands will see the ball before your body does.

See Tory Holt highlights and training vids. He rarely if ever caught a ball with his hands.

Swains only excuse is thst maybe it got on him quickly either because he couldn't pick it up with the stands as background, or he's not used to the heat Geno puts on the ball. That ball was a dart. A perfect dart.

 

[sc85sis]

If you're two or three steps ahead of the defender, the ball hits you on your hands/chest, and you drop it, that is terrible. That drop was awful, whether or not he's a lousy receiver.

 

[Sun Tzu]

Because neither imcompletion was 'terrible' in the context of thousands of dropped passes I've seen, but Swain's looked like a tougher chance than either Cobly's chance, or Dareke's chance.
Swain's chance looked tougler to me, because I'm sure I douldn't have jumped that high.
And Freddie is only 6 feet 0 inches tall.
Calvin Johnson was 6 feet 5 inches and had a 4.35 forty time.
Geno just got mixed up and thought he was throwing to Megatron.
And we all lived happily everafter.
The End/

Are you the barometer by which we should judge the abilities of professional receivers?

It is interesting to me that someone who joined days after Lock became a Seahawk is ignoring all facts, video and image evidence, and objective analysis in a seemingly maniacal attempt to tear Lock's competition down. Are you sure you are an objective observer?

It was a good to great pass.
Every NFL receiver is capable of catching that ball.
Any NFL receiver wanting to make a roster as anything more than a special teams contributor should make that catch.

 

[fullquartpress]

I would have called it a tough catch for anyone, regardless of quarterback.
Seeing it from the stands might have changed my view.
And if your accusations are true, why would I have defended Geno on the more obvious 'drop' by Dareke Young on the sideline?

 

[keasley45]

I would have called it a tough catch for anyone, regardless of quarterback.
Seeing it from the stands might have changed my view.
And if your accusations are true, why would I have defended Geno on the more obvious 'drop' by Dareke Young on the sideline?

This is now just arguing for arguments sake

 

[keasley45]

I would have called it a tough catch for anyone, regardless of quarterback.
Seeing it from the stands might have changed my view.
And if your accusations are true, why would I have defended Geno on the more obvious 'drop' by Dareke Young on the sideline?

This is now just arguing for arguments sake

I am generally not a fan of relying on PFF grades, but I know some here are fond of them..

This tweet should be it's own thread on the topic of Geno. It would seem reasonable that any assessment oh who he could be for us should be reset and start based on what he's done for us this offseason and not some BS from his first few years in the NFL.

The dude has been solid.

 

[Titus Pullo]

Geno should start for at least half the season just so there's no more doubt that he still sucks.

 

[keasley45]

Geno should start for at least half the season just so there's no more doubt that he still sucks.

If he still sucks, he shouldn't start at all...

But...

 

[Maelstrom787]

It'd be perfectly reasonable to say "I hope Geno doesn't start for an extended period, as I solely want to see if Lock can be a future answer at the spot due to his youth and upside."

That's a fine opinion to have! It makes some sense, even.

It's not reasonable, however, to straight up be wrong and demonstrably wrong about his current level of play just to suit your own narrative.

There is one, and only one, reasonable take on Geno's play this preseason - and that's that "it's been pretty solid." It's abundantly clear.

Will it be good next week? Will it be good in the regular season? Will he be consistently good? Totally up for debate. But stop lying.

 

[keasley45]

I've said from the beginning that if he's bad, then he will be bad and we will move on.

The ridiculous debate on this forum is around the facts he's put on tape vs folks who watch the exact same performance and say he's terrible or played terrible.

It is and has been as simple as what that tweet says. He hasn't been been bad or even mediocre. And if not for the drops, he'd be completing passes through 2 games now at an 80% + rate. Only in the post Wilson Seahawks world are those numbers AND the performance that generated them deemed horrible.

If he craps the bed in the regular season, he craps the bed. No one here that I can recall ever said he was our savior or that he was going to light things up.

It's just here we have to argue about photographic evidence of catches that should have been caught and qb play that's been undeniably good. And all btw, because folks can't get over the fact that he was chosen to be one of the guys we'd go into the season with.

If it was Baker Mayfield making the same plays Geno has and putting up top stats in the preseason, the same folks tearing Geno down would be calling a Superbowl for us this year. No doubt.

 

[flv2]

Chris Simms likes Geno even more than I do, apparently.

People are starting to settle down and listen to reason. Priors are the strongest drug on the face of the planet.

 

[Maelstrom787]

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That actually isn't too bad, considering he didn't put any non-clear QB1s in the top 32 (this came out before Baker went to Carolina).

There's some good names below Geno. Minshew, Mills, and Huntley? Low-key seems like a bit of praise to me

 

[keasley45]

Geno should start for at least half the season just so there's no more doubt that he still sucks.

If it was Mayfield putting up those performances (and suffering from thise drops), there'd be a race among some to wash the dude's jockstrap every week and proclaim him our next franchise dude.