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I don’t think anyone here believes Geno is a franchise QB. He’s decent when he plays well. That’s his ceiling: decent. What some of us are defending is the fact that he hasn’t played like the worst quarterback in the world the way some people are implying or flat out saying in various threads on the board. Whether you like him or not, or think he’s a good person or not, he’s actually played up to his capability (decent) so far. He’s made some very good throws and been the victim of bad drops and penalties. He hasn’t been super exciting to watch. He’s steady. That’s what we need right now until we figure out a longer-term solution at QB.
 

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I know over the years there has been commentary reflecting on how some QBs throw a more "catchable" ball. Perhaps there's some of that in it.
Chris Simms said Goff's throws are tougher to catch...I don't know why.
The Swain incompletion seems unfairly blamed on Swain.
I would have aimed it 3 feet lower and 4 feet northwest.
Dareke Young had both hands on a pass that I could have caught...maybe.
A Geno pass at ~8:30 was behind Hart, maybe too much velocity at short range, and drew a gasp as it dropped among 3 Bears.
That short pass may have been Geno's riskiest of the night.
 
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I don’t think anyone here believes Geno is a franchise QB. He’s decent when he plays well. That’s his ceiling: decent. What some of us are defending is the fact that he hasn’t played like the worst quarterback in the world the way some people are implying or flat out saying in various threads on the board. Whether you like him or not, or think he’s a good person or not, he’s actually played up to his capability (decent) so far. He’s made some very good throws and been the victim of bad drops and penalties. He hasn’t been super exciting to watch. He’s steady. That’s what we need right now until we figure out a longer-term solution at QB.
For me, Lock was better...until he got sick.
Lock is also 7 years younger, and $2.2 million cheaper.
The End.
 
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Genos best play of the day was when he had a drive going then tackled himself to turn 2nd and short into 3rd and long! Then threw a dart into the ground and Meyers missed a FG! Sums up the day! SAD!
 

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Genos best play of the day was when he had a drive going then tackled himself to turn 2nd and short into 3rd and long! Then threw a dart into the ground and Meyers missed a FG! Sums up the day! SAD!
If only he had a muffed punt like Eason had to manufacture his only successful drive
 

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The perfect drafted QB would be 6'4 230, have a strong arm, quick release, and good mobility.

Plus, he would have to excel in a strong conference like the SEC....Earning a lot of awards.

Wait a minute......That sounds like Drew Lock.
 

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The perfect drafted QB would be 6'4 230, have a strong arm, quick release, and good mobility.

Plus, he would have to excel in a strong conference like the SEC....Earning a lot of awards.

Wait a minute......That sounds like Drew Lock.
It does. I like Drew and desperately want him to get some damn reps. This COVID stuff is an incredible middle finger from the universe to him.
 

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Chris Simms said Goff's throws are tougher to catch...I don't know why.
The Swain incompletion seems unfairly blamed on Swain.
I would have aimed it 3 feet lower and 4 feet northwest.
Dareke Young had both hands on a pass that I could have caught...maybe.
A Geno pass at ~8:30 was behind Hart, maybe too much velocity at short range, and drew a gasp as it dropped among 3 Bears.
That short pass may have been Geno's riskiest of the night.
An NFL wideout catches that ball. It was in his face. Between his hands. Swain has not played well in consecutive weeks now.
 

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I don’t think anyone here believes Geno is a franchise QB. He’s decent when he plays well. That’s his ceiling: decent. What some of us are defending is the fact that he hasn’t played like the worst quarterback in the world the way some people are implying or flat out saying in various threads on the board. Whether you like him or not, or think he’s a good person or not, he’s actually played up to his capability (decent) so far. He’s made some very good throws and been the victim of bad drops and penalties. He hasn’t been super exciting to watch. He’s steady. That’s what we need right now until we figure out a longer-term solution at QB.

This x 10000
 

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This x 10000
And yet, he sucked everywhere he's played. He's had a turnover in just about every game he's started.

What will be different this time around? Age? Coaching?
 
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While rewatching the preseason broadcast of the Bears game, I noticed a fan with a sign advocating for Jimmy G. I wondered what was going through that man's head while he was making the sign, how massive he must view the skill gap between Jimmy and the QBs on our roster, and how much effort it took to take such a bold stand. Was it a joke? Does this man know anything about football? Do I?

Here's the thing. I'm bullish on Geno Smith because he looks (skillwise) like Jimmy G. He's a top 20 QB when things are clicking around him, and honestly, he might even be better than that. Top 15? Maybe. That makes Geno a steal around the margins given his contract, so hating on him seems counterintuitive. It seems to rest on the bizarre assumption that Drew Lock's upside is higher even if he loses the competition. How does that work? Drew is entering his fourth season. How long does a QBs hypothetical upside last in the abstract of results? Don't worry; I get it; He looks more exciting (whatever that means).

Let's return to the Jimmy G sign guy for a moment. Why aren't there more Geno Smith signs? Sure, the DUI doesn't help. But ignoring that, he has one of the better redemption arcs in football. He's a thoughtful guy, drafted high by an inept organization, that became the butt of every joke in NYC. His coach publicly and privately threw him under the bus despite his improvement in his second season. And, people wrote him off wholly based on this fabricated reputation. Yet, six years later, he has the opportunity to change that narrative while replacing a Seahawk's legend. He's the hero in this story. Let's see what he can do. MAKE A SIGN FOR GENO.
 

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I

Don't

Understand

the question.

How about recent history or those funny things called facts that so often nowadays get confused with opinion.

And to your int reference... I dont know... maybe whatever it is that had him throw 5 tds to 1 int last year. Played 4 games. 1 pick. That kind of breaks the chain of 1 pick per game. His completion percentage has also been better than it was historically.

So... maybe it's because even though he may not be a franchise guy, he's already disproven that he is who he's always been.

He's been better than he was in the past. And he'd be much better statistically so far this year if not for 2 drive killing drops last week, and drops and penalties this week.

It's nuts that you have to come across like the dudes agent to simply relay facts. Geno smith, nor any other qb, can't move his team downfield of throw a TD pass if his WRs drop the ball. He had zero off targets last week and 3 on 17 passes this week. So if Geno had catches on all the balls that were dropped, he'd have gone what... 14 for 17?? In what universe are those the numbers of a hopeless qb? And that's not inflating his ability. Had the balls that hit his wrs and TEs square in the hands been caught, he'd be an above 70% completion qb. And likely had a scoring drive or two.

The dude may crap the bed come the regular season... who knows. But he hasn't shown evidence in his recent history with Seattle that that will be the case.

Not a world beater. Not a franchise guy. But a journeyman who can run an offense... maybe not do much in the spectacular category, but be a responsible game manager.
 

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While rewatching the preseason broadcast of the Bears game, I noticed a fan with a sign advocating for Jimmy G. I wondered what was going through that man's head while he was making the sign, how massive he must view the skill gap between Jimmy and the QBs on our roster, and how much effort it took to take such a bold stand. Was it a joke? Does this man know anything about football? Do I?

Here's the thing. I'm bullish on Geno Smith because he looks (skillwise) like Jimmy G. He's a top 20 QB when things are clicking around him, and honestly, he might even be better than that. Top 15? Maybe. That makes Geno a steal around the margins given his contract, so hating on him seems counterintuitive. It seems to rest on the bizarre assumption that Drew Lock's upside is higher even if he loses the competition. How does that work? Drew is entering his fourth season. How long does a QBs hypothetical upside last in the abstract of results? Don't worry; I get it; He looks more exciting (whatever that means).

Let's return to the Jimmy G sign guy for a moment. Why aren't there more Geno Smith signs? Sure, the DUI doesn't help. But ignoring that, he has one of the better redemption arcs in football. He's a thoughtful guy, drafted high by an inept organization, that became the butt of every joke in NYC. His coach publicly and privately threw him under the bus despite his improvement in his second season. And, people wrote him off wholly based on this fabricated reputation. Yet, six years later, he has the opportunity to change that narrative while replacing a Seahawk's legend. He's the hero in this story. Let's see what he can do. MAKE A SIGN FOR GENO.

Great post.
 

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Looks like Matt Corral is out for the year for Carolina.

Their other QBs? Baker Mayfield and Sam Darnold

Ours? Geno Smith, Drew Lock and Jacob Eason.

let that sink in. What a 100% idiotic move by PC To have the worst QBs in the league.

and to the poster that said Geno might be a too 20 or 15 QB in the league cough#&&*bullsh!tcough. Please name 5 starters that today are worse than Geno Smith. Let alone 10.
 

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While rewatching the preseason broadcast of the Bears game, I noticed a fan with a sign advocating for Jimmy G. I wondered what was going through that man's head while he was making the sign, how massive he must view the skill gap between Jimmy and the QBs on our roster, and how much effort it took to take such a bold stand. Was it a joke? Does this man know anything about football? Do I?

Here's the thing. I'm bullish on Geno Smith because he looks (skillwise) like Jimmy G. He's a top 20 QB when things are clicking around him, and honestly, he might even be better than that. Top 15? Maybe. That makes Geno a steal around the margins given his contract, so hating on him seems counterintuitive. It seems to rest on the bizarre assumption that Drew Lock's upside is higher even if he loses the competition. How does that work? Drew is entering his fourth season. How long does a QBs hypothetical upside last in the abstract of results? Don't worry; I get it; He looks more exciting (whatever that means).

Let's return to the Jimmy G sign guy for a moment. Why aren't there more Geno Smith signs? Sure, the DUI doesn't help. But ignoring that, he has one of the better redemption arcs in football. He's a thoughtful guy, drafted high by an inept organization, that became the butt of every joke in NYC. His coach publicly and privately threw him under the bus despite his improvement in his second season. And, people wrote him off wholly based on this fabricated reputation. Yet, six years later, he has the opportunity to change that narrative while replacing a Seahawk's legend. He's the hero in this story. Let's see what he can do. MAKE A SIGN FOR GENO.
Drew Lock is a thoughtful guy that was drafted high by an inept organization, that changed the coaching staff two times in three years not to mention a Covid year. He also became the butt of every joke in Denver. His coach publicly and privately threw him under the bus despite his improvement in his second and third season. Plus, people wrote him off wholly based on this fabricated reputation.

He had 21 starts total. Which is equivalent to 1.4 seasons.

Now, he changed to a brand-new team and culture. Let's see if the change brings out his full potential.
 

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I don’t think anyone here believes Geno is a franchise QB. He’s decent when he plays well. That’s his ceiling: decent. What some of us are defending is the fact that he hasn’t played like the worst quarterback in the world the way some people are implying or flat out saying in various threads on the board. Whether you like him or not, or think he’s a good person or not, he’s actually played up to his capability (decent) so far. He’s made some very good throws and been the victim of bad drops and penalties. He hasn’t been super exciting to watch. He’s steady. That’s what we need right now until we figure out a longer-term solution at QB.
Geno's scored 10 points in 4 quarters with the starting O-Line, going mostly against backups on defense. Michael Dickson's leg is gonna falloff at this rate.

Geno has been anemic. His ceiling is backup, and if he has to start more than 3 games your team is in trouble.
 

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The perfect drafted QB would be 6'4 230, have a strong arm, quick release, and good mobility.

Plus, he would have to excel in a strong conference like the SEC....Earning a lot of awards.

Wait a minute......That sounds like Drew Lock.
Bill Walsh would beg to differ,
 

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Drew Lock is a thoughtful guy that was drafted high by an inept organization, that changed the coaching staff two times in three years not to mention a Covid year. He also became the butt of every joke in Denver. His coach publicly and privately threw him under the bus despite his improvement in his second and third season. Plus, people wrote him off wholly based on this fabricated reputation.

He had 21 starts total. Which is equivalent to 1.4 seasons.

Now, he changed to a brand-new team and culture. Let's see if the change brings out his full potential.
Haha. Well, if you can't respond with an original idea, you might as well copy one.

You missed the point of my comment, which is contingent on Geno winning the competition (see paragraph two). I'm not blindly advocating for him to be the week one starter based on his narrative. I'm doing the opposite.
 

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Titus Pullo said:
The perfect drafted QB would be 6'4 230, have a strong arm, quick release, and good mobility.

Plus, he would have to excel in a strong conference like the SEC....Earning a lot of awards.

Wait a minute......That sounds like Drew Lock.
Bill Walsh would beg to differ,
Superbowl winning QBs Drew Brees and Russell Wilson say "hold my beer, tall prototype"
 
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