Bevell

I think this was his best game so far - 41 rushes, 24 passes.

Agreed. The play calling was much improved yesterday. They got back to their identity on offense. Having a healthy Lynch helps.

A positive Bevell thread?

I'm so confused, hope this doesn't get locked.

Definitely some good play calls in there, nice to see us exploit some weaknesses in an opponents D for once. That said, our opponents had a lot of weaknesses to exploit. Got some success over the middle which should have been a given but I wasn't necessarily expecting it.

If we can run the ball, we're fine. If Bevell is forced to come up with new and inventive ways to get players open, he struggles. To me that translates to a deficiency at OC. He's not creative and he doesn't know or is unwilling to cater to the strengths of our personnel.

Did anyone else notice a couple times the camera was on the sidelines it was Pete talking to Cable, never Bevell. What exactly is the dynamic there? Just thought it was kind of strange.

iigakusei":1k6rpjmn said:

Did anyone else notice a couple times the camera was on the sidelines it was Pete talking to Cable, never Bevell. What exactly is the dynamic there? Just thought it was kind of strange.

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It looked like Pete was getting frustrated by some of the offensive protections, guys not sliding over into the blitzing gaps, stuff like that.

I'd like to petition the league to allow BOTH Bailey and Gilliam to play RT at the same time, seeing as they're both only half a football player.

Sgt. Largent":js5ipxz5 said:

iigakusei":js5ipxz5 said:

Did anyone else notice a couple times the camera was on the sidelines it was Pete talking to Cable, never Bevell. What exactly is the dynamic there? Just thought it was kind of strange.

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It looked like Pete was getting frustrated by some of the offensive protections, guys not sliding over into the blitzing gaps, stuff like that.

I'd like to petition the league to allow BOTH Bailey and Gilliam to play RT at the same time, seeing as they're both only half a football player.

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I second the motion!

CodeWarrior":2qqii2ef said:

If we can run the ball, we're fine. If Bevell is forced to come up with new and inventive ways to get players open, he struggles. To me that translates to a deficiency at OC. He's not creative and he doesn't know or is unwilling to cater to the strengths of our personnel.

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This. Can't remember a game with Bevel where I ever felt our OC ever helped us win a game. If Bevel doesn't mess it up I'm happy.

I still feel like there was a lot of conservative playcalling by Bevell in the 2nd half. I suppose that was okay considering the lead we had and the team we were playing... but that won't always work against the tougher competitors we have left on the schedule.

Oh crap, I just turned this into a negative Bevell thread. LOCK IT UP!

Bevell will look ok so long as Marshawn is back to being Marshawn, like he was last night. But once Beast truly loses his effectiveness, I expect Bevell and this offense to often look pretty hopeless. It's still Beast's team.

CodeWarrior":3v6gzjt2 said:

If we can run the ball, we're fine. If Bevell is forced to come up with new and inventive ways to get players open, he struggles. To me that translates to a deficiency at OC. He's not creative and he doesn't know or is unwilling to cater to the strengths of our personnel.

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You mean creative like a halfback pass to the QB, then a bomb for a TD?

We run the ball over 50% of the time, how creative can you get?

Crazy. Its almost like when our players execute and get positive gains, Bevell doesnt look that bad. But when they get stuffed, miss a block, bail out early, throw a pick, run a wrong route, drop a pass, miss a read ...... Bevell's fault.


Honestly, at this point, I think the only job all OC's have is taking the pressure off of the players when they falter. Since almost every single team complains about their OC when their team begins to fail.

Cartire":1m26vkiu said:

Crazy. Its almost like when our players execute and get positive gains, Bevell doesnt look that bad. But when they get stuffed, miss a block, bail out early, throw a pick, run a wrong route, drop a pass, miss a read ...... Bevell's fault.


Honestly, at this point, I think the only job all OC's have is taking the pressure off of the players when they falter. Since almost every single team complains about their OC when their team begins to fail.

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Look at the inverse of this though - Does it matter what OC you have if it comes down to player execution almost wholly? I for one am looking forward to Scarecrow Bevell's tenure.

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CodeWarrior":1jgkwdq8 said:

If we can run the ball, we're fine. If Bevell is forced to come up with new and inventive ways to get players open, he struggles. To me that translates to a deficiency at OC. He's not creative and he doesn't know or is unwilling to cater to the strengths of our personnel.

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You mean creative like a halfback pass to the QB, then a bomb for a TD?

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That's about as creative as porn. It's obvious and vulgar. Like porn, it gets the job done in the short term, but you want to find something a little more sophisticated to rely on.

formido":on4lhk25 said:

Sgt. Largent":on4lhk25 said:

CodeWarrior":on4lhk25 said:

If we can run the ball, we're fine. If Bevell is forced to come up with new and inventive ways to get players open, he struggles. To me that translates to a deficiency at OC. He's not creative and he doesn't know or is unwilling to cater to the strengths of our personnel.

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You mean creative like a halfback pass to the QB, then a bomb for a TD?

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That's about as creative as porn. It's obvious and vulgar. Like porn, it gets the job done in the short term, but you want to find something a little more sophisticated.

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If it was so obvious, why'd the Panthers not defend it?

Please anyone, name me one smashmouth run first team that has built it's entire offensive philosophy around it's RB and mobile QB that has a sophisticated offense.

Bevell installs plenty of misdirection, read option, layered routes and wrinkles off the same formation for us to run a successful top 10 offense.

PS. Why is Josh McDaniels a bum as a head coach, but a genius as the Patriot's OC? Gee, do you think it has more to do with who he's coaching with and QB than his amazing sophisticated schemes and plays?

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formido":1ypcitnl said:

Sgt. Largent":1ypcitnl said:

CodeWarrior":1ypcitnl said:

If we can run the ball, we're fine. If Bevell is forced to come up with new and inventive ways to get players open, he struggles. To me that translates to a deficiency at OC. He's not creative and he doesn't know or is unwilling to cater to the strengths of our personnel.

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You mean creative like a halfback pass to the QB, then a bomb for a TD?

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That's about as creative as porn. It's obvious and vulgar. Like porn, it gets the job done in the short term, but you want to find something a little more sophisticated.

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Please anyone, name me one smashmouth run first team that has built it's entire offensive philosophy around it's RB and mobile QB that has a sophisticated offense.

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Once you pay a QB what Russ makes and trade/sacrifice OL pieces for a receiving weapon like Graham your offense has to adapt. Our offseason moves show a modicum of change in philosophy. The run may be our bread in butter, but as I said, Bevell has to use the weapons available. Or do you think he does? Also, I disagree on Bevell running layered route concepts.

Sgt. Largent":y9fersom said:

PS. Why is Josh McDaniels a bum as a head coach, but a genius as the Patriot's OC? Gee, do you think it has more to do with who he's coaching with and QB than his amazing sophisticated schemes and plays?

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This right here. Crazy how McDaniels all of a sudden became an AMAZING OC. Almost like there is some sort of correlation in there.

formido":29oi8wcm said:

Sgt. Largent":29oi8wcm said:

CodeWarrior":29oi8wcm said:

If we can run the ball, we're fine. If Bevell is forced to come up with new and inventive ways to get players open, he struggles. To me that translates to a deficiency at OC. He's not creative and he doesn't know or is unwilling to cater to the strengths of our personnel.

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You mean creative like a halfback pass to the QB, then a bomb for a TD?

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That's about as creative as porn. It's obvious and vulgar. Like porn, it gets the job done in the short term, but you want to find something a little more sophisticated to rely on.

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The Pornographic Playcalling of Darrell Bevell: A Coffee Table Picture Book Odyssey

Cartire":l1dru6hi said:

Sgt. Largent":l1dru6hi said:

PS. Why is Josh McDaniels a bum as a head coach, but a genius as the Patriot's OC? Gee, do you think it has more to do with who he's coaching with and QB than his amazing sophisticated schemes and plays?

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This right here. Crazy how McDaniels all of a sudden became an AMAZING OC. Almost like there is some sort of correlation in there.

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A huge component of McDaniel's firing was his personnel decisions. He spent 1st rounders on Tim Tebow, Robert Ayers, and Knowshon Moreno. Also sacrificed a future 1st, which became Earl Thomas, for Alphonso Smith.