9ers trade AJ Jenkins to Chiefs for Jon Baldwin

[chevelle03]

Was this a straight up trade, or was there a draft pick or cash involved? Baldwin is clearly better, and could produce on a team like the Niners. It's not like he had the best qb's in KC and he did catch 41 passes over 2 years. Jenkins has done NOTHING, and looked bad doing it. KC got fleeced.

 

[Marvin49]

Interesting trade for me.

Neither guy has even scratched the surface of his pre-draft hype (and that's saying somehting considering there wasn't much hype on Jenkins). It's clear that Jenkins had done more than just not live up to expectations. I think he may have pissed someone off. LOL.

Truth be told, up until Friday I had hopes that Jenkins would break free of the funk. On Friday I saw him get completely dominated by press coverage. He couldn't create separation to save his life. I didn't expect the trade, but I had kinda conceeded he wasn't gonna be a factor this year. If he couldn't beat the press in KC, he was gonna be really screwed in Seattle.

As for Baldwin...I have no idea what to expect. My guess is comething along the lines of Ricardo Lockette...physical marvel, not so great a player.

 

[pehawk]

Does Baldwin have great speed?

 

[Fanatics]

He ran a 4.5 at the combine but really it was his Vert and broad that set him apart from other wr's...

http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/jon ... id=2495445

 

[Fanatics]

If this offseason is any indication, our FO should be working on a deal about now.

 

[NinerBuff]

We traded hot garbage for medium warm garbage...

meh... at least Baldwin is better and occasionally makes circus catches

 

[rideaducati]

We traded hot garbage for medium warm garbage...

meh... at least Baldwin is better and occasionally makes circus catches

Then he drops the next 4 easy catches.

 

[LawlessHawk]

It's like trading pre-licked tootsie-pops.

 

[nsport]

SF realizes their WR corps are a bit in turmoil - it will be interesting to see how Davis factors into the passing game this year - he was a huge monster threat prior to Kaepernick (since Smith never targeted WR's) - since then, he has been pretty ordinary (as ordinary as Vernon Davis can be). Also, bringing in a new guy means a tremendous amount of learning and repetition that simply isn't there as of right now - that is also a huge relief. Even if this new guy is good, he truly can't be an impact.

 

[Marvin49]

SF realizes their WR corps are a bit in turmoil - it will be interesting to see how Davis factors into the passing game this year - he was a huge monster threat prior to Kaepernick (since Smith never targeted WR's) - since then, he has been pretty ordinary (as ordinary as Vernon Davis can be). Also, bringing in a new guy means a tremendous amount of learning and repetition that simply isn't there as of right now - that is also a huge relief. Even if this new guy is good, he truly can't be an impact.

The turmoil is mostly caused by injury. If Crabtree hadn't gotten hurt than we'd have Crabtree-Boldin and this wouldn't even be something to talk about.

Losing Crabtree hurts. Getting Boldin helps. At issue is who is the #2 WR early on. Patton hasn't really gotten his shot yet because of an injured hand, but he's just been cleared for practice. Kyle Williams IMO will be the #2 WR...his issue is that he hasn't played in preseason because he's coming back from a torn ACL. It was just announced Manningham will start the season on the PUP.

Thats FOUR guys right there that would make the WR position look very different if they were healthy. Two of them will be here in short order. The other two are question marks.

As for Davis, the press talking about him playing WR is WAY, WAY overblown. What they are doing is lining him up all over the field in order to make it more difficult to take him away. He wasn't really on the same page with Kaep early on, but that all changed in the playoffs. They have been fantastic together in camp.

 

[uncle fester]

If Crabtree hadn't gotten hurt than we'd have Crabtree-Boldin and this wouldn't even be something to talk about.

You just traded away your 2012 Rd. 1 draft choice.

It's 2013.

Whatever the health status of the starting WRs, this would absolutely be a talking point.

 

[nsport]

SF realizes their WR corps are a bit in turmoil - it will be interesting to see how Davis factors into the passing game this year - he was a huge monster threat prior to Kaepernick (since Smith never targeted WR's) - since then, he has been pretty ordinary (as ordinary as Vernon Davis can be). Also, bringing in a new guy means a tremendous amount of learning and repetition that simply isn't there as of right now - that is also a huge relief. Even if this new guy is good, he truly can't be an impact.

The turmoil is mostly caused by injury. If Crabtree hadn't gotten hurt than we'd have Crabtree-Boldin and this wouldn't even be something to talk about.

Losing Crabtree hurts. Getting Boldin helps. At issue is who is the #2 WR early on. Patton hasn't really gotten his shot yet because of an injured hand, but he's just been cleared for practice. Kyle Williams IMO will be the #2 WR...his issue is that he hasn't played in preseason because he's coming back from a torn ACL. It was just announced Manningham will start the season on the PUP.

Thats FOUR guys right there that would make the WR position look very different if they were healthy. Two of them will be here in short order. The other two are question marks.

As for Davis, the press talking about him playing WR is WAY, WAY overblown. What they are doing is lining him up all over the field in order to make it more difficult to take him away. He wasn't really on the same page with Kaep early on, but that all changed in the playoffs. They have been fantastic together in camp.

The Davis question wasn't whether he'd play WR, it would be how he factors into the passing game now that there is no #1 receiver in SF. It's a real mess - does that make VD more of a "target" for Kaep and a "target" for coverage to roll his way? I'm sure it does with the Seahawks because our corners should easily handle your WR's - possible exception is the nickel corner - which means frame out a solid gameplan against VD and the only thing left is covering Kaepernick's runs and the running attack.

 

[Smelly McUgly]

What's the news on the WR the Niners drafted in camp this year? Quinton Patton?

 

[rideaducati]

Does any of this even matter? Baldwin isn't going to be Kaep's first read so defenses won't need to worry about him.

 

[sc85sis]

Wow, the Niners really DID give up on AJ Jenkins that quickly.

I still subscribe to the three-year rule for WRs. Golden Tate looked about as lost as AJ Jenkins at one point, after all (though Tate did start to get it together by the point that AJ Jenkins is at now, to be fair).

Tate is kind of lucky though. Pete was really patient with him, more so than other teams might have been.

As to Davis, USC had kind of a similar issue with WRs either dropping like flies or simply not being that great one year. That was the year Fred Davis, our TE, ended up winning the Mackey Award. He led the team in receptions. Obviously it's not a perfect comparison (college to NFL), but if Kaep can develop rapport with Vernon Davis, that should be a big help to the '9ers.

 

[kearly]

Good trade. Baldwin has been a big disappointment in KC, but as a prospect he had #1 WR potential. I was a fan of his. This reminds me of when Seattle grabbed Balmer for a 6th then sent Lo-Jack packing for a 6th. Both players sucked, but at least Balmer had a chance to fit what Seattle was doing and had more physical upside. It didn't work out, but it was a smart set of transactions. Jenkins wasn't going to do anything for SF, so this was a bit of a re-roll for both teams. In the end, it probably won't matter, but it's smarter than doing nothing.

 

[Scottemojo]

How bad was Jenkins that Harbaugh and Balke had to admit they blew a 1st rounder? I know for a coach like Holmgren it'd take that player being caught with kiddie porn...nothing less.

I kind of feel like this is them not admitting they blew a first. Somehow, they each just drafted the wrong first rounder.

 

[Marvin49]

If Crabtree hadn't gotten hurt than we'd have Crabtree-Boldin and this wouldn't even be something to talk about.

You just traded away your 2012 Rd. 1 draft choice.

It's 2013.

Whatever the health status of the starting WRs, this would absolutely be a talking point.

True...I just meant the part about the position in "turmoil".

As for trading him 1 year in....I think Baalke has proved he isn't afraid to pull the trigger on getting rid of a high round pick if it doesn't work. This is twice now. Jenkins and Mays.

 

[Marvin49]

SF realizes their WR corps are a bit in turmoil - it will be interesting to see how Davis factors into the passing game this year - he was a huge monster threat prior to Kaepernick (since Smith never targeted WR's) - since then, he has been pretty ordinary (as ordinary as Vernon Davis can be). Also, bringing in a new guy means a tremendous amount of learning and repetition that simply isn't there as of right now - that is also a huge relief. Even if this new guy is good, he truly can't be an impact.

The turmoil is mostly caused by injury. If Crabtree hadn't gotten hurt than we'd have Crabtree-Boldin and this wouldn't even be something to talk about.

Losing Crabtree hurts. Getting Boldin helps. At issue is who is the #2 WR early on. Patton hasn't really gotten his shot yet because of an injured hand, but he's just been cleared for practice. Kyle Williams IMO will be the #2 WR...his issue is that he hasn't played in preseason because he's coming back from a torn ACL. It was just announced Manningham will start the season on the PUP.

Thats FOUR guys right there that would make the WR position look very different if they were healthy. Two of them will be here in short order. The other two are question marks.

As for Davis, the press talking about him playing WR is WAY, WAY overblown. What they are doing is lining him up all over the field in order to make it more difficult to take him away. He wasn't really on the same page with Kaep early on, but that all changed in the playoffs. They have been fantastic together in camp.

The Davis question wasn't whether he'd play WR, it would be how he factors into the passing game now that there is no #1 receiver in SF. It's a real mess - does that make VD more of a "target" for Kaep and a "target" for coverage to roll his way? I'm sure it does with the Seahawks because our corners should easily handle your WR's - possible exception is the nickel corner - which means frame out a solid gameplan against VD and the only thing left is covering Kaepernick's runs and the running attack.

Well they still have Boldin. Roll your coverage to Vernon and Boldin will still be facing single coverage. I'll take that matchup on anyone.

 

[pehawk]

How bad was Jenkins that Harbaugh and Balke had to admit they blew a 1st rounder? I know for a coach like Holmgren it'd take that player being caught with kiddie porn...nothing less.

I kind of feel like this is them not admitting they blew a first. Somehow, they each just drafted the wrong first rounder.

Its a good deal for the 49ers, assuming it was only play that left Jenkins on the sidelines. I have to think he pissed someone off there.