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johnnyfever":2vlg1i4h said:dogorama":2vlg1i4h said:johnnyfever":2vlg1i4h said:I don't think vegas is baiting anyone. They deal in numbers and probabilities, not emotions.
You're missing the point, it's the perception of disrespect. It is subjective, not objective.
No, you are assuming your view of this being disrespect is everyone's. My point was made just fine. I think they cover this easily, and I guarantee you there are a lot of Miami fans that do as well. My point is this spread is mathematical, and those who don't do the math see it as disrespectful. Some people believe we didn't go to the moon, but their belief doesn't make them right. Your emotions and belief that Miami is being disrespected is not at all scientific, a Vegas spread is. You can argue the parameters and statistics used should be different, but emotions play no role.
We will find out Sunday if a 10.5 is correct. Bookies aren't in the business of losing. They hope there are people out there get emotional and see this line as "disrespectful". Take Miami, see how it works out for you.
I'M sorry, but you have COMPLETELY missed my point. In fact, you are trying to make a literal translation completely out of context. The actual point spread, or whether or not it is correct, has absolutely nothing to do with my point. The point was that the spread was the largest differential in week 1 which can lead to the player's reaction that there is a general perception that there is an overall outside belief that they are REALLY bad. My point was that can sometimes motivate a team who feel they are disrespected and on the flip side create complacency in a team that believes their own press clippings.
Coaches always try to encourage their players to avoid the hype. A case in point is my Huskies who have been rated as high as #7 this year and Coach Peterson stresses to his players to not to get caught up in that, but players, both amateur and professional, sometimes do.
You also make the point that a point spread is purely scientific based on metrics. That is not true, Vegas oddsmakers are every bit football analysts and much of their odds making is based upon subjective projections based upon historical and current events. Perception and prevailing thought also play a role in their decision because that can be a big component of where the initial betting trends will begin.
Lastly, that doesn't mean any of this will actually happen but to say that professional football players are completely above letting emotional components of their environment affect them is simply not true. So, get w/the program, this isn't rocket science, LOL.