The official debate Wilson thread.

[Seahawk Sailor]

I've been critical of Wilson this season, but this one isn't on him. Our receivers failed miserably this game, and ultimately cost us the game combined with Bevel's inability to adjust in the second half. Exhibit one: Turbin runs down the field, Wilson hits him perfectly in stride and there is nothing but green in front of him. Exhibit two: Tate drops a pass 50 yards or so downfield, one that he had position on. That would have gotten us into the redzone. Exhibit three: Wilson hits TE Evans perfectly in his hands in stride down the field, an easy 40 yard completition. Exhibit four: Wilson hits Tate on a crucial third down on a slant route, he would have had room for YAC as well. Exhibit 5: Marshawn Lynch drops an easy pass on a screen play.

There are some more examples of piss poor receiver play but I'll leave it there. Wilson gave our guys opportunities and they weren't even able to come up with even the simpliest of plays. In the second half we failed to adjust to what the 49ers were doing defensively too, as well as compensating for our poor receiver play. Did Wilson have a few mistakes? Yes the throw into double coverage comes to mind, but he was not the cause of our offensive woes today.

Yep. And this is from someone critical of Wilson. Wilson got zero help. ZERO.

Yea, he had a couple of bad throws. The interception is on him. Arguably, he wanted to slant that inside the defenders, and was hit, causing it to float outward. Good play; bad decision to release it with so much pressure coming so fast at him. If he gets that off a second earlier, it goes for a big play, or at least an incompletion. He pushed his luck and got burned for it. But that's one play. Almost every other play was on, and drops were all on the receivers. He had a good ~120 yards on dropped passes alone.

 

[knownone]

Wilson had 19 yards in the second half. This thread is full of fail.

 

[Russ Willstrong]

Yeah you are right he should start running the routes after he throws the ball too.

Again, have you ever heard of a guy throwing for 16 yards in a half. EVER? Hell, Charlie Whitehurst threw for 91 yards in a whole game.

AGAIN 16 YARDS IN A HALF?!

LOL. Man up dude and stick to your quote-->He threw for -2 yards in the second half.
Can't count and can't reason. That's why no one takes your posts seriously.

 

[mistaowen]

Wilson had 19 yards in the second half. This thread is full of fail.

He threw the ball 5 times prior to the final drive, one of those a dropped slant to Tate into 49ers territory. You purely looking at stats is full of fail.

 

[pehawk]

Here's my read.

Wilson has ALL the makings of being a special QB. I believe it by what I've seen (outside of stats). PC and JS also believe it, I think that much is obvious. Either way, Flynn or Wilson, I think this is a playoff team. Once in the playoffs, I'd rather have the special guy, with NOW 16 games under his belt over the man I like to call "Bearded John Freisz".

You may not agree with their decision - but JS and PC are betting on SB's with Wilson. Not playoff appearences with Flynn.

 

[DHawk]

On another note, how about that top 3 rushing defense giving up 175 yards tonight?

how bout that top three rushing defense never getting a break?

While I agree the defense didn't get enough breaks, a lot of that was on them too. They played the run poorly from the getgo. Not just in the second half. It was an adjustment that was never made. They let the 49ers convert on 3rd down waaaaaay too often. Sadly with a bunch of check down, YAC stuff(Poor tackling, poor angles, out of position). You gotta give them credit. They took it to our D and our D didn't respond. They just kept hitting us in the mouth and we did nothing to stop them until they got to the 20 yard line.

 

[redeye81]

Who cares what the stats were.. He is our and Pete's QB..

What can he do better. that is the question..

 

[Hasselbeck]

As the chairman of the "Start Matt Flynn" campaign.. even I can't blame Wilson for tonight.

The one bad throw he had was ... for some reason thinking Braylon Edwards would get to a pass with 3 guys around him.. aside from that, if guys catch the football this game is much different and his stats are much prettier.

 

[Lithium]

Here's my read.

Wilson has ALL the makings of being a special QB. I believe it by what I've seen (outside of stats). PC and JS also believe it, I think that much is obvious. Either way, Flynn or Wilson, I think this is a playoff team. Once in the playoffs, I'd rather have the special guy, with NOW 16 games under his belt over the man I like to call "Bearded John Freisz".

You may not agree with their decision - but JS and PC are betting on SB's with Wilson. Not playoff appearences with Flynn.

well yeah its a well known fact, Flynn can only lead us to maybe the playoffs, and Wilson is the only guy who can lead us to the Super Bowl. all of this based off of less than 10 games experiences, got it

 

[TLD0550]

If you came away from this game thinking Wilson is the problem you don't know a damn thing about football.

Agreed 100% Catch the damn BALLLLLLLL

 

[redeye81]

we were out played and out coached.. period they were the better team... we NEED AND WILL GET BETTER..

 

[pehawk]

Here's my read.

Wilson has ALL the makings of being a special QB. I believe it by what I've seen (outside of stats). PC and JS also believe it, I think that much is obvious. Either way, Flynn or Wilson, I think this is a playoff team. Once in the playoffs, I'd rather have the special guy, with NOW 16 games under his belt over the man I like to call "Bearded John Freisz".

You may not agree with their decision - but JS and PC are betting on SB's with Wilson. Not playoff appearences with Flynn.

well yeah its a well known fact, Flynn can only lead us to maybe the playoffs, and Wilson is the only guy who can lead us to the Super Bowl. all of this based off of less than 10 games experiences, got it

That's my opinion of why PC and JS went with a rookie. If you notice I said "here's my read". Have your kid explain the posts before you reply, kay?

 

[Hawkfish]

If you came away from this game thinking Wilson is the problem you don't know a damn thing about football.

YEP!

 

[vongstaTHEmonsta]

Wow, Russel Wilson went from being a future Hall of Famer to the problem in 4 days.

 

[Seahawk Sailor]

As the chairman of the "Start Matt Flynn" campaign.. even I can't blame Wilson for tonight.

I think this pretty much speaks for itself. And the entire thread. And the game. And the team. And whatever the hell else you want to scapegoat, folks.

 

[DHawk]

Wow, Russel Wilson went from being a future Hall of Famer to the problem in 4 days.

Welcome to .NET after a loss!

I won't throw in the fact that it was to the number one defense in the league and reigning division champs because facts fall of deaf ears for most of the kids tonight. Or blind eyes since its on a computer screen. Or... whatever. You get what I'm sayin!

 

[SoCalSeahawk]

I lOve Russ, but he got -2 yards of passing in the second half. That is absolutely ridiculous and unnacceptable

This thread is Not Worthy.

 

[Seahawker86]

If you came away from this game thinking Wilson is the problem you don't know a damn thing about football.

this is totally correct, it was the play calling and the WRs, they all suck.

 

[edogg23]

As the chairman of the "Start Matt Flynn" campaign.. even I can't blame Wilson for tonight.

The one bad throw he had was ... for some reason thinking Braylon Edwards would get to a pass with 3 guys around him.. aside from that, if guys catch the football this game is much different and his stats are much prettier.

As the "official" unoffical starter of the start Flynn threads of the weeks 3 and 4 I would have to agree that there was way too much ukeface: on offense to go around to put the blame on Wilsons shoulders. I would give the passing game as a whole though probably a D grade in this game. The only thing worse could be the passing game of the chargers in that Monday night meltdown with four picks.

 

[Tical21]

It is time to try something else. I don't think any of us were prepared to have a defense quite this good. Do we really want to keep trotting that defense out there without at least "trying" Flynn? We might be sitting on a Super Bowl contender. We may not be, but there is only one way to find out.