Tampa Bay Rays @ Seattle Mariners Aug 26-29...

[Shanegotyou11]

Yeah, that's why nobody is saying it. Clearly you did not understand the point in any of the responses to you in the other thread I even predicted what you would say lol. Not all games are created equal. Dan didn't lose this game correct, nobody is saying he did. It was a good time to pull the starter. Right now in the BP nobody is pitching well. He chose Char and it blew up. Sucks.

Nah, your a hater on Scott and everyone in here has said as much. What about the 17ks? I thought itd be fixed once Scott was gone.

Anytime you want to debate baseball, and do it on a debate forum we can. You literally make up stuff(woo pc) and get proved wrong and then spin it once it was proved wrong.

 

[Shanegotyou11]

Yup and I didn't really hear much of anyone criticize any of the ex-coaches about the BP not being sharp lately. They've been good most of the year the only thing I heard coach wise about the BP was using Munoz in the 7th or 8th instead of the 9th.

Ms have been bottom of the pile for bullpen since July 1. Middle of the Pack for the year.

 

[Shanegotyou11]

Yup and I didn't really hear much of anyone criticize any of the ex-coaches about the BP not being sharp lately. They've been good most of the year the only thing I heard coach wise about the BP was using Munoz in the 7th or 8th instead of the 9th.

And We can put money up for the winner. A nice bet too. We will do Coach A and Coach B and then do your stats(opinions) vs my stats(backed up and fact checked) and get a non biased judgement.

You dont even fact check. You had no idea what Servais did with Woo in August and just made up "Dan lets him throw more pitches". You never fact check.


So, lets go to a debate forum. I have been on plenty. Put money up. Have someone hold it. And let a non biased party see who knows more about baseball.

If not? Done talking to you about baseball.

 

[NoGain]

I still can't get over how Julio, after his incredibly promising first two seasons, and being hailed as a pre-season MVP candidate, turned into a pumpkin this year. I really wonder whether or not he's going to resume his upward trajectory next year, or if the bad plate habits he showed this year will become endemic? Did the contract go to his head? Did he become too hubristic?

I don't know....

 

[DJrmb]

I still can't get over how Julio, after his incredibly promising first two seasons, and being hailed as a pre-season MVP candidate, turned into a pumpkin this year. I really wonder whether or not he's going to resume his upward trajectory next year, or if the bad plate habits he showed this year will become endemic? Did the contract go to his head? Did he become too hubristic?

I don't know....

So you're taking this one season over 2 years of production? Why? Ronald Acuna was MVP last year. This year he's hitting worse than Julio. Maybe Acuna sucks now? Baseball is f'ing hard. Guys have down years. If this is just a down year for Julio you're looking at a potential hall of fame player still. Julio has way too much talent to be doubted by anyone at this point in my opinion.

 

[Chapow]

Ms have been bottom of the pile for bullpen since July 1. Middle of the Pack for the year.

Yep, 5th worst BP ERA since June. That's just a bit different than "not sharp lately".

 

[Crizilla]

Nah, your a hater on Scott and everyone in here has said as much. What about the 17ks? I thought itd be fixed once Scott was gone.

Anytime you want to debate baseball, and do it on a debate forum we can. You literally make up stuff(woo pc) and get proved wrong and then spin it once it was proved wrong.

You thought the offense would be fixed because Servais and DeHart are gone? Lol

 

[Crizilla]

Yep, 5th worst BP ERA since June. That's just a bit different than "not sharp lately".

That's not Servais or Wilson's fault. BP's have bad stretches sometimes. What does this have to do with them trying something different in the dugout/clubhouse? I predicted once Dan loses a close game where the offense stinks everyone would come out and say ohhhh told you so. It's childish because the sample size is so small.

Question for you and shanegotyou, was Jeff Pasan lying when he said the clubhouse wasn't buying in 100%?

 

[Crizilla]

Damn dude, you're a legit a hole. Just sayin.

Not sure how that makes me an A hole. I was agreeing with him that it would sound dumb to blame last night's loss on Wilson....

 

[sutz]

Not a mod, but you guys should probably back off a bit.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Good point. He's not worth talking to. He probably is gonna' go knock over an old lady or something.
And yes, I shouldn't have called him a name. Even if I believe what I said 100 percent.

 

[Chapow]

That's not Servais or Wilson's fault. BP's have bad stretches sometimes.

Exactly. Yet you have regularly blamed Servais for losing the game if one of the relievers blew a small lead. You've done it over and over. There have been points this season that it didn't matter who Servais put in, they were all blowing it. You would make comments like "Scotty loses another game" or "another loss solely on Scotty".

What does this have to do with them trying something different in the dugout/clubhouse? I predicted once Dan loses a close game where the offense stinks everyone would come out and say ohhhh told you so. It's childish because the sample size is so small.

I'm not seeing anyone here doing that. Certainly not everyone.

Question for you and shanegotyou, was Jeff Pasan lying when he said the clubhouse wasn't buying in 100%?

How could I possibly know that?

But yeah, seems pretty plausible that could happen when a team collapses as bad as the M's have. Like I have already said, I'm perfectly fine moving on from Servais. I also think Dipoto is more to blame for this season than anyone else. There's also a whole bunch of players that need to take a good long look in the mirror for their part in this.

 

[Chapow]

Not sure how that makes me an A hole. I was agreeing with him that it would sound dumb to blame last night's loss on Wilson....

Just like it was dumb to blame Servais for similar losses, which you have regularly done. Pretty sure that was his point.

 

[Crizilla]

Just like it was dumb to blame Servais for similar losses, which you have regularly done. Pretty sure that was his point.

Doesn't matter who the coach is most baseball fans are going to blame the coach with stuff like the Devers game, the woo and Miller games in DET, the Munoz in the 7th and 8 inning games instead of 9th. The Garver for Raley pinch hit. Am I Pete hater because I thought it was time to move on from him too? Pete couldn't do a defense anymore the game caught up to him. Jerry and Tom did an awful job with th DH and 3rd base positions in the off season. See look not everything is Servais and DeHart fault nobody said it was.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Still can't decide on Ribs or BBQ Chicken. Damn.

 

[Threedee]

Assholes are probably going to win today, so, we need a win to ensure we don't fall farther behind.

 

[Crizilla]

Julio dinger on an inside pitch. Niceee

 

[Ruminator]

Is it just me, or did today's game finish way quicker than most?

 

[Shanegotyou11]

That's not Servais or Wilson's fault. BP's have bad stretches sometimes. What does this have to do with them trying something different in the dugout/clubhouse? I predicted once Dan loses a close game where the offense stinks everyone would come out and say ohhhh told you so. It's childish because the sample size is so small.

Question for you and shanegotyou, was Jeff Pasan lying when he said the clubhouse wasn't buying in 100%?

So no money for debate? Ok, done talking to u about it. You cant acknowledge being wrong.

 

[Shanegotyou11]

Exactly. Yet you have regularly blamed Servais for losing the game if one of the relievers blew a small lead. You've done it over and over. There have been points this season that it didn't matter who Servais put in, they were all blowing it. You would make comments like "Scotty loses another game" or "another loss solely on Scotty".



I'm not seeing anyone here doing that. Certainly not everyone.



How could I possibly know that?

But yeah, seems pretty plausible that could happen when a team collapses as bad as the M's have. Like I have already said, I'm perfectly fine moving on from Servais. I also think Dipoto is more to blame for this season than anyone else. There's also a whole bunch of players that need to take a good long look in the mirror for their part in this.

Cook.