Skip Bayless' thoughts on Seahawks #1 PWR rankings(ESPN)

[HawkFan72]

Skip Bayless still think we're going to win the AFC? That's the last tweet I ever read from that guy. He literally said the Hawks would challenge in the AFC. How he has a job I'll never know.

He tried to play it off a few days later, by saying he knows Seahawks fans read his stuff and they're always giving him crap, so it was to get under our skin. Right, Skip. Play the, I-did-it-on-purpose card

So pathetic! Just admit you made a mistake and move on.

 

[davidonmi]

skip picked the Panthers and cited their "tremendous offensive line" as a reason. Every else I've heard has called the panthers O-line crap

 

[davidonmi]

I can't wait for our WR's to prove everyone wrong this year, Baldwin wasn't healthy last year, Tate is on his way up, and Sidney Rice is a solid WR. And Zach Miller could have a big year this year

 

[iLove49]

Yes the Hawks lost Harvin and yes the niners lost Crabtree but facts are facts. The niners have more depth at the WR position then the hawks. I only say this not because I'm a niner fan but because i know football but as long as Anquan Boldin and Vernon Davis are in the lineup, there going to look better (as far as big names) then any two WR Seattle puts on paper not Named Percy. Don't take this comment as me saying that Boldin and Davis are better than Seattle's WR, it's just to non Hawk fans those names are more recognizable.

 

[SharkHawk]

Skip Bayless still think we're going to win the AFC? That's the last tweet I ever read from that guy. He literally said the Hawks would challenge in the AFC. How he has a job I'll never know.

He tried to play it off a few days later, by saying he knows Seahawks fans read his stuff and they're always giving him crap, so it was to get under our skin. Right, Skip. Play the, I-did-it-on-purpose card

He's a Skins fan iirc, he knows for sure what conference we are in.

No he doesn't... he totally forgot, and it was obvious immediately. He tried to come up with his response as Glove mentioned, and it was sooooo weak. He just proved he has no clue. He looked at our "schedule" and saw we were playing all AFC teams in the preseason (didn't look beyond a few games) and seemed to connect to the still functioning part of his brain from the 80's that thought we were still in the AFC West.

 

[davidonmi]

Yes the Hawks lost Harvin and yes the niners lost Crabtree but facts are facts. The niners have more depth at the WR position then the hawks. I only say this not because I'm a niner fan but because i know football but as long as Anquan Boldin and Vernon Davis are in the lineup, there going to look better (as far as big names) then any two WR Seattle puts on paper not Named Percy. Don't take this comment as me saying that Boldin and Davis are better than Seattle's WR, it's just to non Hawk fans those names are more recognizable.

Sorry but I disagree. The seahawks have Rice, Baldwin, Tate, Kearse, and williams. 5 good WR's so their depth is definitely better. When u have to convert a TE to WR that says a lot about depth at a position. I might be bias but I think Rice and Tate are overall better than Davis who has never played wr and boldin who's getting up there. We'll see though

 

[SharkHawk]

Haha. Boldin has never been that much of a factor against Seattle, and VD is still clearing cobwebs from when Kam legally smashed his brain into his butt. Vernon Davis has certainly improved, but I'll never forget him getting kicked off the field against the Seahawks as a younger man and getting his ass handed to him last year as an older man. He's not all of a sudden going to become Calvin Johnson because they are lining him up at WR more often. In fact, I think it plays to our advantage, because then he'll match up with Browner instead of our LBers who aren't so hot at covering TE's scooting across the middle.

Seahawks have ridiculous depth at receiver this year. Crabtree is your best option. I think he would be our #3 or #4 option to be honest. I don't even think Boldin would make this team as I don't think he's a fit, and I think he's exactly right now what Mike Williams was in his last good season and is heading for Braylon Edwards territory very shortly. Ozzie Newsome is no fool.

 

[davidonmi]

Haha. Boldin has never been that much of a factor against Seattle, and VD is still clearing cobwebs from when Kam legally smashed his brain into his butt. Vernon Davis has certainly improved, but I'll never forget him getting kicked off the field against the Seahawks as a younger man and getting his ass handed to him last year as an older man. He's not all of a sudden going to become Calvin Johnson because they are lining him up at WR more often. In fact, I think it plays to our advantage, because then he'll match up with Browner instead of our LBers who aren't so hot at covering TE's scooting across the middle.

Seahawks have ridiculous depth at receiver this year. Crabtree is your best option. I think he would be our #3 or #4 option to be honest. I don't even think Boldin would make this team as I don't think he's a fit, and I think he's exactly right now what Mike Williams was in his last good season and is heading for Braylon Edwards territory very shortly. Ozzie Newsome is no fool.

I think that's a bit much. crabtree would probably be our #2 if not #1. I agree Boldin probably doesn't make this team with his age and salary

 

[SharkHawk]

Crabtree is hurt. So no... he wouldn't. Did you not get the note that he's out, or am I confusing him with somebody else?

 

[davidonmi]

Crabtree is hurt. So no... he wouldn't. Did you not get the note that he's out, or am I confusing him with somebody else?

Well of course, I think when fully healthy he would be

 

[Shaz]

Any Rankings that have any combination of the Seahawks, Niners, Falcons and Broncos from 1-4 I won't ever complain or be mad at

 

[SharkHawk]

Crabtree is hurt. So no... he wouldn't. Did you not get the note that he's out, or am I confusing him with somebody else?

Well of course, I think when fully healthy he would be

Yeah, but he's not. So he wouldn't go into this season on our team as a #1 option, just like Harvin isn't. But I still think I'd take Harvin 1 and Rice 2, but that's just me. I think Crabtree drops too many balls. He had a good year last year for sure. But this year... you don't count on him for quite a while, so no way I would even work him in as option 1 if things were going well, which with our corps I think they will be. I don't think Harvin will come in week 6 or 8 and all of a sudden be the "go to" receiver. He'll be used sparingly and they will try to use his advantages to our advantage.

 

[RichNhansom]

Ilove49, I'm confused by your "so called" fact. Do you really believe the Niners are deeper at WR than Seattle? Or are you just trolling?

Here's what I see. Right now Rice would be your #1 putting Bolden back were he belongs at #2. Tate and even Baldwin would have a good chance at beating Bold in out of the #1 spot and Kearse and Williams would walk right into tout #2 spot.

On the flip side the only receiver on your day one active roster with a chance at making our 53 is Bold in and with his age and 6 million cap hit and competing against younger cheaper guys, I very much doubt he makes the 53.

So in summary, your entire receiving core wouldn't beat out our worst receiver for a roster spot as it stands right now. That is the perfect description of horrible depth.

I know you said your not being a homer and you know football but your facts are proving both of the statements false.

 

[iLove49]

Yes the Hawks lost Harvin and yes the niners lost Crabtree but facts are facts. The niners have more depth at the WR position then the hawks. I only say this not because I'm a niner fan but because i know football but as long as Anquan Boldin and Vernon Davis are in the lineup, there going to look better (as far as big names) then any two WR Seattle puts on paper not Named Percy. Don't take this comment as me saying that Boldin and Davis are better than Seattle's WR, it's just to non Hawk fans those names are more recognizable.

Sorry but I disagree. The seahawks have Rice, Baldwin, Tate, Kearse, and williams. 5 good WR's so their depth is definitely better. When u have to convert a TE to WR that says a lot about depth at a position. I might be bias but I think Rice and Tate are overall better than Davis who has never played wr and boldin who's getting up there. We'll see though

Well the niners WR depth is Boldin,Davis, Patton, Williams, Moore and Baldwin and thats not even mentioning Crabtree or Manningham. We can debate this all day you'll stand by your team and i'll stand by mine. The truth of the matter is that because of Boldin and of Davis the loss of Crabtree does not appear to be as major. If you were to go out and ask any fan (not seahawk) they would have a hard time knowing who the seahawk WR are.

 

[iLove49]

Haha. Boldin has never been that much of a factor against Seattle, and VD is still clearing cobwebs from when Kam legally smashed his brain into his butt. Vernon Davis has certainly improved, but I'll never forget him getting kicked off the field against the Seahawks as a younger man and getting his ass handed to him last year as an older man. He's not all of a sudden going to become Calvin Johnson because they are lining him up at WR more often. In fact, I think it plays to our advantage, because then he'll match up with Browner instead of our LBers who aren't so hot at covering TE's scooting across the middle.

Seahawks have ridiculous depth at receiver this year. Crabtree is your best option. I think he would be our #3 or #4 option to be honest. I don't even think Boldin would make this team as I don't think he's a fit, and I think he's exactly right now what Mike Williams was in his last good season and is heading for Braylon Edwards territory very shortly. Ozzie Newsome is no fool.

I have a hard time understanding who would start over Crabtree. Crabtree is a legit #1 WR and he's way better than Sidney , Tate and Baldwin and the same could be said for Boldin.

There is no way you can compare Boldin's career to those of Williams and Edwards. Yes he is getting old but he's still producing as a matter of fact , he had more receiving yards last year than any of your WR's.

 

[RichNhansom]

Popularity doesn't mean squat. Ask any knowlegable football fan if he thinks your statement is accurate and you would probably get laughed out of the room. Now a casual fan who only follows media hype and nothing else might agree with you but that is not basis for any kind of fact.

Here's a nice fact for you. We drafted Harper in the 4th round and he was beat out by Williams and Kearse so we released him hoping to stash him on our practice squad. Your GM signed him off our practice squad and he is now part of your active 53 man roster. That right there tells you who is deeper at WR. If it were you I don't think your FO would be dumpster diving through our trash to fill their active roster.

Just like your secondary, your GM has been grasping at straws trying to fill holes and just like your receiver core you have one proven starter in your secondary and a bunch of hopefuls and your one starter was just screwed out of 2 million dollars by your FO.

By the way the secondary is another area our backups would be immediate starters on your team. If you really don't see that ypu are purposely ignoring it. Good luck with that.

 

[iLove49]

Ilove49, I'm confused by your "so called" fact. Do you really believe the Niners are deeper at WR than Seattle? Or are you just trolling?

Here's what I see. Right now Rice would be your #1 putting Bolden back were he belongs at #2. Tate and even Baldwin would have a good chance at beating Bold in out of the #1 spot and Kearse and Williams would walk right into tout #2 spot.

On the flip side the only receiver on your day one active roster with a chance at making our 53 is Bold in and with his age and 6 million cap hit and competing against younger cheaper guys, I very much doubt he makes the 53.

So in summary, your entire receiving core wouldn't beat out our worst receiver for a roster spot as it stands right now. That is the perfect description of horrible depth.

I know you said your not being a homer and you know football but your facts are proving both of the statements false.

So now that you've told me your OPINION on why your guys would start over mine, I would love to hear the FACTS. My FACTS are that Boldin is way more productive than Rice, Tate and Baldwin so that in itself would make him your #1, if your saying that he would not make the team because he wouldn't fit your style of play or because of his cap figure than i respect that. But if you talk about skill, Boldin would make the roster and would make Kerse and easy cut for the seahawks.

I stand by what i said, I'm not being a homer but apparently you are. I do appreciate your OPINION on why the niners WR's wouldn't make your roster, but if you look at the numbers which then equal facts, I'm sure you would change your OPINION.

 

[iLove49]

Popularity doesn't mean squat. Ask any knowlegable football fan if he thinks your statement is accurate and you would probably get laughed out of the room. Now a casual fan who only follows media hype and nothing else might agree with you but that is not basis for any kind of fact.

Here's a nice fact for you. We drafted Harper in the 4th round and he was beat out by Williams and Kearse so we released him hoping to stash him on our practice squad. Your GM signed him off our practice squad and he is now part of your active 53 man roster. That right there tells you who is deeper at WR. If it were you I don't think your FO would be dumpster diving through our trash to fill their active roster.

Just like your secondary, your GM has been grasping at straws trying to fill holes and just like your receiver core you have one proven starter in your secondary and a bunch of hopefuls and your one starter was just screwed out of 2 million dollars by your FO.

By the way the secondary is another area our backups would be immediate starters on your team. If you really don't see that ypu are purposely ignoring it. Good luck with that.

I agree with you as far as the secondary. Yes you guys have the best secondary in the league i wont argue that. Harper will eventually be our H-back.

The same thing you said about my secondary i could say about your WR's. One starter filled with a bunch of hopefuls.

 

[Donn2390]

I would be happy if we were picked last in all of the polls. I prefer to win it on the field, not in the voting booth. All these high expectations make we worry about over confidence.
It matters not what Skip Bayless thinks of us, it matters what happens on the field. When we win big, then we can kick ol' Skip to the curb... He makes good locker room fodder...

 

[RichNhansom]

Trying to use stats as facts only works in comparable situations and only if looking at all stats. You cannot compare the heaviest run first offense in the league statistically to a pass first offense. It doesn't equate. You need to also look at YAC, catch percentage, route running and speed and much more. Boldins total yards doesn't translate to doing the same on another team and that is especially true in Seattle where we pass less than the rest of the league.

I at work so can't look up stats right now but the whole story changes if you factor everything in. How has Boldin done when asked to be the #1?

I'm not being a homer in my statement above. We just releases Michael Robinson because he was due 2.5 million. The cap is at the front of our priority right now for obvious reasons and because we have very good depth filled with guys that look like very good potential starters in the near future Bold in very likely would not make our roster without restructuring his pay.

None of your other receivers would stand a chance at stealing a roster spot here and that is not homerism. There is a reason you still don't know who your #2 will be throughout the season and you are trading for guys like Baldwin who are considered a massive bust.

Your FO would kill right now to have any one of our current backups and like I said before, any one if them would be immediate starters for you. Sorry but that is the truth.