Russell Wilson sets deadline for new contract

[Seymour]

How about YOU pay him, since it's so important to you.

As a team just pay him, it's pretty simple, do it and move forward.

^^^^^
Future GM material there LOL. "It's so simple Mikey could write this contract!!" :roll:

 

[Tical21]

The days of giving your quarterback a blank check need to come to an end. Look at all the teams that have recently done so. They ALL missed the playoffs. It is old, outdated, failing logic.

 

[knownone]

Salary Cap hit is all that matters. The rest is irrelevant.

At the end of the day. Russell Wilson has cost less than Tom Brady against the salary cap in total during Wilson's 2nd contract (2015-2019).

The numbers prove that.

15 +7M
16 -4.8M
17 -600K
18 -1.7M
19 +2.7M

Feel free to continue to argue against the math, damage control, and come up with more straw-man arguments if you like. Russell Wilson has been a bargain for years, and you have argued other wise for years... because... because... Tom Brady takes less. Who Wilson technically cost less than against the cap this whole time.

This isn't an isolated comment. You have been arguing this for years. Not anymore.

Your math is wrong.

Wilson - 2015: 32M
Brady - 2015: 13M
= +19M

Over that length of time Wilson has made just under 17M more than Brady.

 

[Mad Dog]

The day Russell signs his next contract with the Hawks will be the best day of the offseason.

Seattle is well known for running its sports heroes out of town and its never worked out well. Sign your stars and figure out how to build around them with draft picks and budget free agents.

 

[Spin Doctor]

My original point still stands, Brady has been a bargain at the QB position (so was Wilson), end of story. That is the point I was making with my original post. It shouldn't even be an argument that Brady IS taking a pretty steep discount, because he is compared to what he could be getting.

There is no point when you're comparing an outlier to the norm.

Wilson is not Brady, just like every other player in the league is not Brady, nor should be expected to take less like Brady. So people should stop holding Brady's contract up as to what they expect Russell to do, or any player to do.

I was responding to somebody who said that Brady wasn't a bargain QB, nothing more. Then Fade chimed in with that big post of his comparing Wilson to Brady. I was never really comparing the two to begin with until that post came. My only reference was to the 2015 SuperBowl where I even said Wilson made less than Brady. I was only stating that Brady has taken less than most of his peers, which once again is not an erroneous statement.

 

[scutterhawk]

The day Russell signs his next contract with the Hawks will be the best day of the offseason.

Seattle is well known for running its sports heroes out of town and its never worked out well. Sign your stars and figure out how to build around them with draft picks and budget free agents.

This ^
Wilson IS THE BEST QUARTERBACK IN SEAHAWKS HISTORY, he became so IN SPITE of having Tom Cable & Darryl Bevell, some of the WORST O-Lines in the League.
The die has been cast, all across the league, & the Seahawks may just as well face it, they aren't going to get away from having to pay their Quarterback big bucks...You KEEP the guy that is still producing at a top 5 level, P-E-R-I-O-D !
Their ABSURD thinking is, "It's Defense That Wins Championships", and Wilson who is responsible for a bunch of our losses. :lol:

 

[UK_Seahawk]

I really wish people would quit bringing up Brady and his team friendly contract without telling the whole story. It's just really, really disingenuous.

Couldn't agree more on this. It's a disgrace the NFL turns a blind eye.

 

[chris98251]

The problem is the Snyder type owners of the world, they see a team in their division have bragging rights and their GM gets the find me a franchise guy like Brady, we all know how QB's are so hit and miss it's like a Blind Women in a carnival shooting gallery for some GM's. The Agents know teams are desperate for one so they pay a huge amount. Then comes the quality guys that can play, they look at those contracts of guys that can't make the cut and go to their agent, if he's worth that then I need to be well above that and so the cycle continues.

 

[UK_Seahawk]

For the record I'd happily pay Wilson 50m PA my only issue is the cap hit and how it impacts the ability to be competitive in other areas.

I think you have find that balance between staying competitive and keeping your franchise QB at all costs. To my mind the reported figures tip me towards trading him. Not everyone's cup of tea but a valid opinion to me.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Don't let the media tell you what is the "truth" about anything. It's all about clicks. Some good points being made here, you don't just let a guy walk when you have your Franchise guy. It's very hard to find a great QB, many teams could vouch for that and have been looking for years to find their guy. He has won more games in his first 7 years than ANY QB in the history of the game. And with Cabevell for a good part of that. Think about what he has done, all while being held back for a good portion of his career. Just sayin...….

 

[Tical21]

Only thing holding him back is his ability to read defenses.

He's had better running game and defense in his first 7 years on average than any qb in 30 years, possibly ever. He had the best roster in the nfl for 5 years and managed one ring. We should give that man a blank check!

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Keep telling yourself that. :roll:

 

[Sgt. Largent]

Only thing holding him back is his ability to read defenses.

He's had better running game and defense in his first 7 years on average than any qb in 30 years, possibly ever. He had the best roster in the nfl for 5 years and managed one ring. We should give that man a blank check!

For a guy who has the best QBR in the history of the league through his first seven seasons, and almost broke the all time NFL record for TD to Interception differential last year, he sure is lucky at reading defenses.

 

[Seymour]

Only thing holding him back is his ability to read defenses.

He's had better running game and defense in his first 7 years on average than any qb in 30 years, possibly ever. He had the best roster in the nfl for 5 years and managed one ring. We should give that man a blank check!

For a guy who has the best QBR in the history of the league through his first seven seasons, and almost broke the all time NFL record for TD to Interception differential last year, he sure is lucky at reading defenses.

Silly goose. He's talking about Chinese football. :twisted:

 

[Tical21]

Only thing holding him back is his ability to read defenses.

He's had better running game and defense in his first 7 years on average than any qb in 30 years, possibly ever. He had the best roster in the nfl for 5 years and managed one ring. We should give that man a blank check!

For a guy who has the best QBR in the history of the league through his first seven seasons, and almost broke the all time NFL record for TD to Interception differential last year, he sure is lucky at reading defenses.

Being conservative and afraid to throw the ball when you cant read the coverage can help your qbr. Anyone who watches qb film would come to the same conclusion. Once you see how lost he is against zone, you cant unsee it. Watch a game with me anytime, I'll gladly point out presnap before every play whether Russ is likely to have a problem. See for yourself how he reacts. Deal?

 

[Sgt. Largent]

Only thing holding him back is his ability to read defenses.

He's had better running game and defense in his first 7 years on average than any qb in 30 years, possibly ever. He had the best roster in the nfl for 5 years and managed one ring. We should give that man a blank check!

For a guy who has the best QBR in the history of the league through his first seven seasons, and almost broke the all time NFL record for TD to Interception differential last year, he sure is lucky at reading defenses.

Being conservative and afraid to throw the ball when you cant read the coverage can help your qbr. Anyone who watches qb film would come to the same conclusion. Once you see how lost he is against zone, you cant unsee it. Watch a game with me anytime, I'll gladly point out presnap before every play whether Russ is likely to have a problem. See for yourself how he reacts. Deal?

I also criticize Russ for being hesitant and not getting the ball out on time more than I'd like to see.

But I'm knowledgeable enough as a fan to know that it's not all on Russell. Other factors like predictability of our playcalling and our forever horrible pass blocking O-line and under utilized and talent deficient WR corp getting press covered and unable to get open on time also plays into what you're talking about.

BUT, the end result is the end results, and Russell's stats prove that out. Over his career he's top 10 or better in just about every statistical category that matters..........ad in phenomenal clutch competitor, leader and pillar of our community.

And this all equals pay the man.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Yeah, we need to ignore facts. Clearly the Hawks could have won that Super Bowl and made it w/in another play of back to back titles with 25 different Quarterbacks :177692:
And who said to write him a blank check??? Fair value would be to put him around Rodgers or maybe a little higher being that he's the next guy up.

 

[Seymour]

Only thing holding him back is his ability to read defenses.

He's had better running game and defense in his first 7 years on average than any qb in 30 years, possibly ever. He had the best roster in the nfl for 5 years and managed one ring. We should give that man a blank check!

For a guy who has the best QBR in the history of the league through his first seven seasons, and almost broke the all time NFL record for TD to Interception differential last year, he sure is lucky at reading defenses.

Being conservative and afraid to throw the ball when you cant read the coverage can help your qbr. Anyone who watches qb film would come to the same conclusion. Once you see how lost he is against zone, you cant unsee it. Watch a game with me anytime, I'll gladly point out presnap before every play whether Russ is likely to have a problem. See for yourself how he reacts. Deal?

I also criticize Russ for being hesitant and not getting the ball out on time more than I'd like to see.

But I'm knowledgeable enough as a fan to know that it's not all on Russell. Other factors like predictability of our playcalling and our forever horrible pass blocking O-line and under utilized and talent deficient WR corp getting press covered and unable to get open on time also plays into what you're talking about.

BUT, the end result is the end results, and Russell's stats prove that out. Over his career he's top 10 or better in just about every statistical category that matters..........ad in phenomenal clutch competitor, leader and pillar of our community.

And this all equals pay the man.

Ya but everyone knows that no defense ever runs zone in clutch moments.

Too Short.....

 

[John63]

Only thing holding him back is his ability to read defenses.

He's had better running game and defense in his first 7 years on average than any qb in 30 years, possibly ever. He had the best roster in the nfl for 5 years and managed one ring. We should give that man a blank check!

For a guy who has the best QBR in the history of the league through his first seven seasons, and almost broke the all time NFL record for TD to Interception differential last year, he sure is lucky at reading defenses.

The statement TIcal says is not true at all. It has been documented by experts how Wilson has read and dissected defenses. This is just another falsehood that some need to try to hang onto to maintain their stance on Wilson. Since they don't have any FACT to support their hate of Wilson they are resorting to making things up.

 

[chris98251]

I'm still waiting for the 25 names of QB's to be produced.