Russell Wilson: passing problems

[SeaChase]

Not facts. Peyton made WR's good before luck, and has done the same for Broncos players with the exception of Welker. How good was Welker before Brady? How good was Baldwin with Hassleback? How Good is Decker in NY? And Most of these WR's were not good before playing with their respective QB. Colson and Graham were who before the Saints? I could pick your "facts" apart all day but thanks for trying to test my football knowledge.

-Uhhhh, there was no Baldwin with Hasselback.
-Welker was averaging 13 ypc in the 2 years with Miami before going to New England and averaging 10 ypc.
-Both Jimmy and Colston have only ever played with the Saints.

Dude, if youre going to pick facts apart, make sure you know the facts. This is a very sad post.

Really, Baldwin was an undrafted free agent in 2011, this is his 4th year, Wilson's third. Or was that Jackson..

You are missing the point as well. Brees made Colston and Graham, which is my point and fact.

No the point is you tried to say I was wrong with my facts but in reality you were wrong. And nothing changes the facts that all those Wr/TW are more talented than anything we have.

I was wrong about Hasslebroke and that is it period. Because someone posted a "garbage stat" for Welker I'm wrong? YPC is a misleading stat. If he only caught one 20 yard pass than guess what his average for the year would be? So you're saying Welker was better in Miami than Boston? Yeah...

Again your logic is flawed. So Graham will be a legit TE on any team but Percy is not a #1 receiver? Tell the Vikings, Hawks, and Jets that.

 

[Scottemojo]

People bagging on Russ have to ignore years of evidence, including college, to assume he is broken after a 3 game slump. Most recent is not most pertinent.

 

[Cartire]

People bagging on Russ have to ignore years of evidence, including college, to assume he is broken after a 3 game slump. Most recent is not most pertinent.

Thank You. :13:

 

[SeaChase]

So when a superstar isn't playing so super no one is supposed to discuss the reasons on a discussion board? My bad.

But you would think he'd be playing better since he doesn't have a wife to distract him plus the motivation of a big payday.

I got it. The robot is programmed to play poorly so his payday wont be as big on purpose so the money can spread around and make the whole team better... :th2thumbs:

 

[Scottemojo]

So when a superstar isn't playing so super no one is supposed to discuss the reasons on a discussion board? My bad.

But you would think he'd be playing better since he doesn't have a wife to distract him plus the motivation of a big payday.

I got it. The robot is programmed to play poorly so his payday wont be as big on purpose so the money can spread around and make the whole team better... :th2thumbs:

Massengill called. They think you are perfect.

 

[theENGLISHseahawk]

Russell Wilson's two best weapons are undrafted Doug Baldwin at 5-10 and 190lbs and undrafted Jermaine Kearse at 6-1 205lbs.

In the last few weeks he's lost Zach Miller and Percy Harvin. He lost Golden Tate in the off-season.

He's allowed to have a couple of rough outings I think.

 

[Ozzy]

No its fine to do that you just went way overboard

 

[SeaChase]

No its fine to do that you just went way overboard

Kinda sailed like one of Wilson's passes ...

 

[Scottemojo]

No its fine to do that you just went way overboard

Kinda sailed like one of Wilson's passes ...

More like a Sanchez butt fumble.

 

[Ozzy]

No its fine to do that you just went way overboard

Kinda sailed like one of Wilson's passes ...

Just for giggles did you know Wilson is top 5 in passer rating since he entered the league? Imagine if he could actually throw. Sky would be the limit. being less than 1 percentage point from 3rd as a pedestrian QB isn't that bad ammerite seachase?

 

[Jacknut16]

Russell Wilson's two best weapons are undrafted Doug Baldwin at 5-10 and 190lbs and undrafted Jermaine Kearse at 6-1 205lbs.

In the last few weeks he's lost Zach Miller and Percy Harvin. He lost Golden Tate in the off-season.

He's allowed to have a couple of rough outings I think.

He is allowed that, but if he just doesn't throw the bad INTs and then miss a wide open Kearse everything is just fine.

Its the accuracy that is troubling, and we are probably talking about a Raiders loss if the CB doesn't drop that pick 6 that Wilson nearly threw.

He doesn't need to be Manning, Rodgers, Brady but he does need to be more accurate, or KC is going to put a stomping on us this weekend.

 

[hawkfan68]

Yes...RW missed Kearse on a sure TD last Sunday. He wasn't the first QB to miss a receiver downfield. Pretty much every QB does it, good or bad QBs. The difference is good QBs miss less than the bad ones. Last season and one before, RW was pretty accurate. In 2012, He threw a perfect bomb to Sidney Rice which ended up as a game winner. Last year, he saved the Seahawks by throw a perfect bomb to Jermaine Kearse on a 4th down to tie the game and pretty much change the momentum in NFCCG. The first game of last season he threw a perfect pass to Jermaine Kearse for a TD to win that game. Earlier this season he threw a perfect pass to Ricardo Lockette for a TD. He's hit on more passes than he's missed. He's had a couple of tough outings passing but he'll right the ship. At least he isn't throwing interceptions in his slump and costing the team with turnovers. A lot of QBs do that....ahem...Jay Cutler, Cam Newton, etc. Russ has a pretty good track record on making accurate throws. Two bad outings shouldn't diminish any of that. Let's see how he does this week.

 

[Jacknut16]

Yes...RW missed Kearse on a sure TD last Sunday. He wasn't the first QB to miss a receiver downfield. Pretty much every QB does it, good or bad QBs. The difference is good QBs miss less than the bad ones. Last season and one before, RW was pretty accurate. In 2012, He threw a perfect bomb to Sidney Rice which ended up as a game winner. Last year, he saved the Seahawks by throw a perfect bomb to Jermaine Kearse on a 4th down to tie the game and pretty much change the momentum in NFCCG. The first game of last season he threw a perfect pass to Jermaine Kearse for a TD to win that game. Earlier this season he threw a perfect pass to Ricardo Lockette for a TD. He's hit on more passes than he's missed. He's had a couple of tough outings passing but he'll right the ship. At least he isn't throwing interceptions in his slump and costing the team with turnovers. A lot of QBs do that....ahem...Jay Cutler, Cam Newton, etc. Russ has a pretty good track record on making accurate throws. Two bad outings shouldn't diminish any of that. Let's see how he does this week.

Its the worst 5 game streak of his career, he just doesn't look the same.

Here is to hoping he finds it this week...

 

[Anthony!]

Yes...RW missed Kearse on a sure TD last Sunday. He wasn't the first QB to miss a receiver downfield. Pretty much every QB does it, good or bad QBs. The difference is good QBs miss less than the bad ones. Last season and one before, RW was pretty accurate. In 2012, He threw a perfect bomb to Sidney Rice which ended up as a game winner. Last year, he saved the Seahawks by throw a perfect bomb to Jermaine Kearse on a 4th down to tie the game and pretty much change the momentum in NFCCG. The first game of last season he threw a perfect pass to Jermaine Kearse for a TD to win that game. Earlier this season he threw a perfect pass to Ricardo Lockette for a TD. He's hit on more passes than he's missed. He's had a couple of tough outings passing but he'll right the ship. At least he isn't throwing interceptions in his slump and costing the team with turnovers. A lot of QBs do that....ahem...Jay Cutler, Cam Newton, etc. Russ has a pretty good track record on making accurate throws. Two bad outings shouldn't diminish any of that. Let's see how he does this week.

Great post spot on, but will not change anything, the few who are anti Wilson have ben waiting for their chance to say I told you and of this year it took till the last 2 games to do it. When he comes out of the slump, they will say its only 1 game, then 2 and then 3 then they will shut up till he has another one. Other top QBs have had slumps. Unlike other top QBs Wilson still finds other ways to help the team win. But those few are to busy being petty, and wanting to say I told you so to get it. They would happily give up the Lombardi to say I told you so. Pathetic

 

[AF_Hawk]

I'm not concerned, not after the type of weather he's had to endure and the injuries surrounding him.

 

[SeaChase]

I like how Anthony! posted they exact same reply in both Wilson topics and "your facts" were picked apart in both regarding the O-line and WR's.

So it's seems there's what some call trolls on both sides of the equation but pointing out the flaws some how means that I'm a horrible person looking to get an ego boost from going against the grain lol. It's a sad world if someone can get an ego boost from an internet forum...

I do admit I like a good debate but some people revert to cognitive dissonance and become the equivalent of their 3rd grade self with personal attacks and stereo typical mindsets.

 

[lobohawk]

Could also throw in the fact that the Return-On-Investment for Wilson has been better than any QB in the league. That is unless you truly believe most any other QB could have done what he's done over his first few years and would at such a cheap price. His relatively paltry pay has been far below his actual contribution. Of course it's doubtful that any future contracts will take that into account, as teams always have to be forward thinking and not provide thank you gifts.

 

[Anthony!]

I like how Anthony! posted they exact same reply in both Wilson topics and "your facts" were picked apart in both regarding the O-line and WR's.

So it's seems there's what some call trolls on both sides of the equation but pointing out the flaws some how means that I'm a horrible person looking to get an ego boost from going against the grain lol. It's a sad world if someone can get an ego boost from an internet forum...

I do admit I like a good debate but some people revert to cognitive dissonance and become the equivalent of their 3rd grade self with personal attacks and stereo typical mindsets.

wrong as usual some tried to pick my facts apart, but then I and others proved their attempts were wrong. So nice try again. The FACTS show Wilson has les talent around him then other top QBs period.

 

[LymonHawk]

I like how Anthony! posted they exact same reply in both Wilson topics and "your facts" were picked apart in both regarding the O-line and WR's.

So it's seems there's what some call trolls on both sides of the equation but pointing out the flaws some how means that I'm a horrible person looking to get an ego boost from going against the grain lol. It's a sad world if someone can get an ego boost from an internet forum...

I do admit I like a good debate but some people revert to cognitive dissonance and become the equivalent of their 3rd grade self with personal attacks and stereo typical mindsets.

wrong as usual some tried to pick my facts apart, but then I and others proved their attempts were wrong. So nice try again. The FACTS show Wilson has les talent around him then other top QBs period.

Wilson is a 'top' QB? Is that another of your FACTS?

 

[Sgt. Largent]

Could also throw in the fact that the Return-On-Investment for Wilson has been better than any QB in the league. That is unless you truly believe most any other QB could have done what he's done over his first few years and would at such a cheap price. His relatively paltry pay has been far below his actual contribution. Of course it's doubtful that any future contracts will take that into account, as teams always have to be forward thinking and not provide thank you gifts.

Very true, but Wilson is going to be criticized much more next year when he's making 15-20M a year.

Look at the abuse guys like Romo, Cutler, Stafford, Flacco, and even Brady take when they have a bad week. Fans won't be so quick to defend Russell because big money = big expectations.