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ptisme":1nj9q22k said:
I think so, too. Like I said earlier I think the media is blowing all of this out of proportion. We're just not going to rest easy until it happens.
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I think so, too. Like I said earlier I think the media is blowing all of this out of proportion. We're just not going to rest easy until it happens.
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all true and as I showed a in 7 of those loses we had a lead going well into the 4th qtr. Also yes Manning, Rodgers and every other QB has bad games. The difference is they have more offensive weapons around them than Wilson. However you see those facts do not matter, all that matters is perception and for some perception is Wilson is a nice QB who we can do without. Interesting is the guy who got on be for down playing Lynch even though I said he was top 5 is just saying nothing has others down play Wilson using Lynch and the Defense as their reason, Hypocrite much.[/quote]
Gotta disagree.... Rodgers makes those weapons... We always hear about the weapons of Rodgers and Favre but they never do squat when they leave in FA....
You saw what GB's skill players looked like when Rodgers was out the second half of 2013
all true and as I showed a in 7 of those loses we had a lead going well into the 4th qtr. Also yes Manning, Rodgers and every other QB has bad games. The difference is they have more offensive weapons around them than Wilson. However you see those facts do not matter, all that matters is perception and for some perception is Wilson is a nice QB who we can do without. Interesting is the guy who got on be for down playing Lynch even though I said he was top 5 is just saying nothing has others down play Wilson using Lynch and the Defense as their reason, Hypocrite much.[/quote]
Gotta disagree.... Rodgers makes those weapons... We always hear about the weapons of Rodgers and Favre but they never do squat when they leave in FA....
You saw what GB's skill players looked like when Rodgers was out the second half of 2013
Yeah, the jury is still out on our FO :roll:ptisme":27bcag8h said:
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I don't think the jury is still out on a FO that's been to back to back SB's and won one of them
[/quote]Sorry the jury is still out when it comes to dealing with offensive FAs. They have done a great job of taking care of the defense, but out side of Lynch they have not had any other high caliber/franchise level talent to deal with till now, SO yes the jury is still out.
[/quote]ptisme":1k6hoo4j said:
all true and as I showed a in 7 of those loses we had a lead going well into the 4th qtr. Also yes Manning, Rodgers and every other QB has bad games. The difference is they have more offensive weapons around them than Wilson. However you see those facts do not matter, all that matters is perception and for some perception is Wilson is a nice QB who we can do without. Interesting is the guy who got on be for down playing Lynch even though I said he was top 5 is just saying nothing has others down play Wilson using Lynch and the Defense as their reason, Hypocrite much.[/quote]
Gotta disagree.... Rodgers makes those weapons... We always hear about the weapons of Rodgers and Favre but they never do squat when they leave in FA....
You saw what GB's skill players looked like when Rodgers was out the second half of 2013[/quote]
Yes and I saw those same players make Flynn look like Rodgers so nice try
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Anthony!":1ghtu6p8 said:
all true and as I showed a in 7 of those loses we had a lead going well into the 4th qtr. Also yes Manning, Rodgers and every other QB has bad games. The difference is they have more offensive weapons around them than Wilson. However you see those facts do not matter, all that matters is perception and for some perception is Wilson is a nice QB who we can do without. Interesting is the guy who got on be for down playing Lynch even though I said he was top 5 is just saying nothing has others down play Wilson using Lynch and the Defense as their reason, Hypocrite much.[/quote]
Gotta disagree.... Rodgers makes those weapons... We always hear about the weapons of Rodgers and Favre but they never do squat when they leave in FA....
You saw what GB's skill players looked like when Rodgers was out the second half of 2013[/quote]
Yes and I saw those same players make Flynn look like Rodgers so nice try[/quote]
Flynn was just average enough to go 2-2... Seriously?
ptisme":1xlfv6jc said:
Gotta disagree.... Rodgers makes those weapons... We always hear about the weapons of Rodgers and Favre but they never do squat when they leave in FA....
You saw what GB's skill players looked like when Rodgers was out the second half of 2013[/quote]
Yes and I saw those same players make Flynn look like Rodgers so nice try[/quote]
Flynn was just average enough to go 2-2... Seriously?[/quote]
You mean like Rodgers went 2-2 to start 2014 LOL nice try again.
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You mean like Rodgers went 2-2 to start 2014 LOL nice try again.[/quote]
Go back and look at the stats starting with the Thanksgiving game where Flynn was substituting.. It was even worse in the couple games prior when they had Tolzein and Wallace....
http://www.nfl.com/schedules/2013/REG/PACKERS
You mean like Rodgers went 2-2 to start 2014 LOL nice try again.[/quote]
Go back and look at the stats starting with the Thanksgiving game where Flynn was substituting.. It was even worse in the couple games prior when they had Tolzein and Wallace....
http://www.nfl.com/schedules/2013/REG/PACKERS
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Anthony!":1fca62ix said:
I don't think the jury is still out on a FO that's been to back to back SB's and won one of them
Lynch, Rice, Graham, Robinson, Miller, none of those guys except Lynch count?
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ptisme":b3k5so28 said:
Go back and look at the stats starting with the Thanksgiving game where Flynn was substituting.. It was even worse in the couple games prior when they had Tolzein and Wallace....
http://www.nfl.com/schedules/2013/REG/PACKERS[/quote]
I wish we had some play-callings like the Packers, they know how to get their guys open by scheme. One thing for sure is Brett and Rodgers do make their own QB, but how many of those other WR goes to teams that have a good or an elite QB, they usually go to teams who offered them huge amount of money, which is usually a rebuilding team.
ptisme":32z4zcra said:
Go back and look at the stats starting with the Thanksgiving game where Flynn was substituting.. It was even worse in the couple games prior when the had Tolzein and Wallace....
http://www.nfl.com/schedules/2013/REG/PACKERS[/quote]
Dude it does not matter Rodgers has had bad games with those same people and Flynn has had good games with them. DO I think Rodgers make others better yeah, however so does Wilson.
Now as to T-day I presume you mean 2013 Since Rodgers played every game in 2014
Flynn went 2-2-1 during his time in 2013.
His worse game was 40-10 against Det 10-20 139 and an int
Guess what Rodgers in 2014 against Det lost 19-7 and he was 16/27 162 with a td. The td helps but to be honest that is not exactly leaps and bounds above Flynn and seems like the defense played better in this game than in 2013. Sorry you are proving my point for me.
Again YEs Rodgers makes players better as does Wilson but those players are also pretty good too. Let me remind you what Flynn did against Det in 2011 it was the best game by a GB QB that year.
chris98251":23w1gyo7 said:Anthony!":23w1gyo7 said:
I don't think the jury is still out on a FO that's been to back to back SB's and won one of them
Lynch, Rice, Graham, Robinson, Miller, none of those guys except Lynch count?
as usual people do not read my posts which of them is a high caliber Franchise level talent besides Lynch? Which is in the prime of their career? enough said
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theincrediblesok":3ox8zzwj said:
I wish we had some play-callings like the Packers, they know how to get their guys open by scheme. One thing for sure is Brett and Rodgers do make their own QB, but how many of those other WR goes to teams that have a good or an elite QB, they usually go to teams who offered them huge amount of money, which is usually a rebuilding team.[/quote]
So James Jones would have led the league in Touchdowns again in Seattle or NYG?
ptisme":26vmi06q said:
So James Jones would have led the league in Touchdowns again in Seattle or NYG?[/quote]
I guess we will never know and that is one. Again nice try. As I said Rodgers does make players better as does Wilson but some of those players are really really good too.
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Anthony!":35tlo0pg said:chris98251":35tlo0pg said:Anthony!":35tlo0pg said:
I don't think the jury is still out on a FO that's been to back to back SB's and won one of them
Lynch, Rice, Graham, Robinson, Miller, none of those guys except Lynch count?
as usual people do not read my posts which of them is a high caliber Franchise level talent besides Lynch? Which is in the prime of their career? enough said
Graham... Also with your defense you will never be able to allocate toward a high caliber blue chip WR... Unless you change your philosophy away from smash mouth football.
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Anthony!":36aawkqo said:
I guess we will never know and that is one. Again nice try. As I said Rodgers does make players better as does Wilson but some of those players are really really good too.[/quote]
Make no mistake. 12 goes down and our season is over. Our skill position players are good... They aren't really really good... You still haven't acknowledged how Jacksonville Jaguar Green Bay's skill position players were when Rodgers was out.. Did you watch the Packers two years ago when Rodgers was out? No one was open... Ever.... The pass rush was relentless... There is SOOOOO much more a defense has to acount for when Rodgers is attacking them... Seattle didn't even try to blitz us that last game...
ptisme":1gokr3fo said:Anthony!":1gokr3fo said:chris98251":1gokr3fo said:Anthony [quote:1gokr3fo said:I don't think the jury is still out on a FO that's been to back to back SB's and won one of them
Lynch, Rice, Graham, Robinson, Miller, none of those guys except Lynch count?
as usual people do not read my posts which of them is a high caliber Franchise level talent besides Lynch? Which is in the prime of their career? enough said
Graham... Also with your defense you will never be able to allocate toward a high caliber blue chip WR... Unless you change your philosophy away from smash mouth football.
Just got him so nice try again. The rest is correct and yet Wilson still gets it down will less talent. Thanks again for proving my point.
ptisme":1xkqtka2 said:
Make no mistake. 12 goes down and our season is over. Our skill position players are good... They aren't really really good... You still haven't acknowledged how Jacksonville Jaguar Green Bay's skill position players were when Rodgers was out.. Did you watch the Packers two years ago when Rodgers was out? No one was open... Ever.... The pass rush was relentless... There is SOOOOO much more a defense has to acount for when Rodgers is attacking them... Seattle didn't even try to blitz us that last game...[/quote]
Dude you can say what you want, but all you have done is make my point over and over again. Did you watch what Flynn did with those same players in 2011 enough said thanks for playing.
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Just got him so nice try again. The rest is correct and yet Wilson still gets it down will less talent. Thanks again for proving my point.[/quote]
What is your point again and how did I prove it?
Just got him so nice try again. The rest is correct and yet Wilson still gets it down will less talent. Thanks again for proving my point.[/quote]
What is your point again and how did I prove it?
ptisme":3qczporv said:
Just got him so nice try again. The rest is correct and yet Wilson still gets it down will less talent. Thanks again for proving my point.[/quote]
What is your point again and how did I prove it?[/quote]
dude you should go back and reread everything. You have been proving my point all along.
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Dude you can say what you want, but all you have done is make my point over and over again. Did you watch what Flynn did with those same players in 2011 enough said thanks for playing.[/quote]
I was referring to 2013... Please share with me the monster numbers our skill position players put out in ONE game where Matt Flynn made a deal with the devil....
Dude you can say what you want, but all you have done is make my point over and over again. Did you watch what Flynn did with those same players in 2011 enough said thanks for playing.[/quote]
I was referring to 2013... Please share with me the monster numbers our skill position players put out in ONE game where Matt Flynn made a deal with the devil....
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