Rumor... Clowney to Seattle

[MORGULON]

I think the 1 season that we had Clowney was enough. He is what he is which is a player with dynamic physical potential but has underperformed and has been injured since he was drafted . Yes he has flashed brilliantly at times and that has a lot of people enamored with the idea of throwing a lot of money his way, but we signed 2 second tier free agents that doubled his sacks , one of the 2 coming off the bench.
I am with the group that hopes he doeant come back. I trust what the front office is going to do.
They improved the cb position, well have a good FS/SS tandem for a full season, Barton will take a step forward,Reed will get back to being Reed
and we still have a chance for free agency and the draft (virtual)

GO HAWKS !

I've been saying this for awhile. Clowney is slightly above average and people don't wanna hear that, but its facts. People wanna talk about the sacks saying it more than just sacks. Well that's not what the NFL is saying because if this were true Clowney would have his 20 plus mil a year deal with some team already, and people don't wanna hear that either. The bottom line is Clowney needs to step up his game if he wants 20 mil a year.

Exactly.

His play and availability has set the market for his services, of course that could change in a second by a team that has
the cap space and the willingness to pay Clowney for the possibility that he'll surpass his record 9 sacks.

Good luck JaVonski


I'd resign Ansah if he were actually healthy and wanted to play for a minimum deal. I dont think he was healthy all year.
If he's suckville , cut him.

Wow! Your solution to solve the issue is to re-sign Ansah, a player who proved to be utterly useless last year. A player who contributed next to nil all season. A player they spent $9M on...Ansah was more of a waste than Clowney ever was. That was a bad signing from the get go.

By the way, Clowney played injured for about half the season. His best game was the one he suffered the injury and played through it. He was the best defensive player in that game, bar none. Even with an injury, he dominated that game. Ansah didn’t do anything to that level. So if you’re going to excuse Ansah for an injury, why not same for Clowney? Clowney didn’t have a full training camp/off-season with the Seahawks. Ansah did.

I hear you loud and clear. I notice you mention ONE GAME. Would you like to sink 20 mil into a player for one dominant game in the middle of the season? It makes me wonder.

First of all I'm not excusing one player over another, where Clowney got hurt somewhere during the season I believe
according to what Pete Carroll mentioned is that Ansah never was healthy at any point in the season. My reasoning
(however flawed) is that the cost for Ansah would be a fraction of what Clowney seems to demand and he kind of
owes us in a way. If he were willing to play a vet minimum deal and we could make it work? Why not?

This is of course if he still has the desire to play. He actually was a productive player when healthy with Detroit.

 

[onepicknick1]

I've been saying this for awhile. Clowney is slightly above average and people don't wanna hear that, but its facts. People wanna talk about the sacks saying it more than just sacks. Well that's not what the NFL is saying because if this were true Clowney would have his 20 plus mil a year deal with some team already, and people don't wanna hear that either. The bottom line is Clowney needs to step up his game if he wants 20 mil a year.

Exactly.

His play and availability has set the market for his services, of course that could change in a second by a team that has
the cap space and the willingness to pay Clowney for the possibility that he'll surpass his record 9 sacks.

Good luck JaVonski


I'd resign Ansah if he were actually healthy and wanted to play for a minimum deal. I dont think he was healthy all year.
If he's suckville , cut him.

Wow! Your solution to solve the issue is to re-sign Ansah, a player who proved to be utterly useless last year. A player who contributed next to nil all season. A player they spent $9M on...Ansah was more of a waste than Clowney ever was. That was a bad signing from the get go.

By the way, Clowney played injured for about half the season. His best game was the one he suffered the injury and played through it. He was the best defensive player in that game, bar none. Even with an injury, he dominated that game. Ansah didn’t do anything to that level. So if you’re going to excuse Ansah for an injury, why not same for Clowney? Clowney didn’t have a full training camp/off-season with the Seahawks. Ansah did.

I hear you loud and clear. I notice you mention ONE GAME. Would you like to sink 20 mil into a player for one dominant game in the middle of the season? It makes me wonder.

First of all I'm not excusing one player over another, where Clowney got hurt somewhere during the season I believe
according to what Pete Carroll mentioned is that Ansah never was healthy at any point in the season. My reasoning
(however flawed) is that the cost for Ansah would be a fraction of what Clowney seems to demand and he kind of
owes us in a way. If he were willing to play a vet minimum deal and we could make it work? Why not?

This is of course if he still has the desire to play. He actually was a productive player when healthy with Detroit.

I'm with ya he has one good game in the 10th game he played where is it he's worth top dollar.


19 hawks sacks 3
18 Houston sacks 9, 17 Houston sacks 9.5, 16 Houston sacks 6, 15 Houston sacks 4.5
KC overpaid for Clark but if we were going to over pay I'd rather have Clark.

Look up defensive ends stats in the NFL look up our own Michael Bennett at least he had 6.5 sacks and only cost 3.225 mil that's only 500,000 per sack. Clowney wants 6.5 mil per sack?
I know some people are thinking he brings more to the game just quit looking at just the sacks well a great D end is graded on Sacks just like a good RB is graded on how many yards he gets.

 

[AgentDib]

This fanbase needs to understand Clowney isn't re-signing here... Seattle and the people here who are wishing upon a star to sign Clowney need to move forward.

Why? Oversimplifying things just so you don't have to think about them anymore seems like a shallow way to view the real, complicated, world. The beauty is in the complexity.

 

[chris98251]

Regardless of what the media says, until he has a contract somewhere else the Seahawks are in the picture.

Why ?

He likes the environment, they respected him and kept their word, they like him as a team mate and a player, the only point is what he values himself versus what they are willing to sign him for, that happens all the time, so it over till it's over.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Why? Not gonna' assume anything until he signs somewhere. And is certainly can still be in Seattle. He flat out makes this team better, that's what it's really all about. He just clearly isn't going to get the $ he thought he was going to get.

 

[Uncle Si]

Why? Not gonna' assume anything until he signs somewhere. And is certainly can still be in Seattle. He flat out makes this team better, that's what it's really all about. He just clearly isn't going to get the $ he thought he was going to get.

Still not received a good answer why people are in such a rush to discard Clowney from the teams plans, simply because he hasn't signed yet.

It's business, and business in an extremely strange time. Seems patience is winning out, despite the better efforts of some.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

No doubt, these things take time. The entire league has passed on signing him so far, not just the Hawks. The Hawks have a better shot of signing him than any other team imo. I can't see this going on past next Wednesday, especially with the draft on Thursday.

 

[MORGULON]

Why? Not gonna' assume anything until he signs somewhere. And is certainly can still be in Seattle. He flat out makes this team better, that's what it's really all about. He just clearly isn't going to get the $ he thought he was going to get.

Still not received a good answer why people are in such a rush to discard Clowney from the teams plans, simply because he hasn't signed yet.

It's business, and business in an extremely strange time. Seems patience is winning out, despite the better efforts of some.

I think it all comes down to what he thinks he can get for a contract and if its anywhere near what he's asking for , a lot of fans will think its too much.

 

[JPatera76]

At this point, I’m kinda done with him. Until I see otherwise he’s not a hawk currently and has no team. Therefore at this point to me he’s a thing of the past.

I wish him the best, but for a guy who loves seattle/fans/team etc etc, he’s kind of being dumb. Not many other teams have really sniffed his direction

 

[Uncle Si]

At this point, I’m kinda done with him. Until I see otherwise he’s not a hawk currently and has no team. Therefore at this point to me he’s a thing of the past.

I wish him the best, but for a guy who loves seattle/fans/team etc etc, he’s kind of being dumb. Not many other teams have really sniffed his direction

I think this is a bit unfair on him. I think Clowney wants a certain contract amount that in any other circumstance may already have been offered.

But with the pandemic, no team is in a hurry to meet his demands. So, if he feels strongly about his worth, why should he be in a hurry to sign? Why are teams in a rush to go higher on him? There are so many factors up in the air with this whole thing.

Moines going anywhere, the season is somewhat in doubt, the start of camp will certainly be delayed... basically everyone has nothing but time to let this play out.

He very well may stay in Seattle for all the reasons he's given.. but it will still primarily come down to the money.

 

[Sgt. Largent]

Why? Not gonna' assume anything until he signs somewhere. And is certainly can still be in Seattle. He flat out makes this team better, that's what it's really all about. He just clearly isn't going to get the $ he thought he was going to get.

Still not received a good answer why people are in such a rush to discard Clowney from the teams plans, simply because he hasn't signed yet.

It's business, and business in an extremely strange time. Seems patience is winning out, despite the better efforts of some.

I think it all comes down to what he thinks he can get for a contract and if its anywhere near what he's asking for , a lot of fans will think its too much.

Every other team GM also thinks he's asking too much, thus why Clowney hasn't signed with anyone yet.

He can demand whatever he wants, but if no one gives it to him (which no one is), then he's going to have to continue to lower his demands until team's become interested again.

I sure hope we sign him...................at our price, which is around 13-15M a year. I love Clowney, but he has to understand he has serious health red flags, and he doesn't have the stats to back up asking for 18M+.

 

[MORGULON]

Why? Not gonna' assume anything until he signs somewhere. And is certainly can still be in Seattle. He flat out makes this team better, that's what it's really all about. He just clearly isn't going to get the $ he thought he was going to get.

Still not received a good answer why people are in such a rush to discard Clowney from the teams plans, simply because he hasn't signed yet.

It's business, and business in an extremely strange time. Seems patience is winning out, despite the better efforts of some.

I think it all comes down to what he thinks he can get for a contract and if its anywhere near what he's asking for , a lot of fans will think its too much.

Every other team GM also thinks he's asking too much, thus why Clowney hasn't signed with anyone yet.

He can demand whatever he wants, but if no one gives it to him (which no one is), then he's going to have to continue to lower his demands until team's become interested again.

I sure hope we sign him...................at our price, which is around 13-15M a year. I love Clowney, but he has to understand he has serious health red flags, and he doesn't have the stats to back up asking for 18M+.

This sums it up. His value to the Seahawks and I hope they stick to their number. On the other hand, good luck to Clowney, I hope he is happy where ever he ends up. I definitely don't dislike the guy .

 

[KitsapGuy]

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[Uncle Si]

Why? Not gonna' assume anything until he signs somewhere. And is certainly can still be in Seattle. He flat out makes this team better, that's what it's really all about. He just clearly isn't going to get the $ he thought he was going to get.

Still not received a good answer why people are in such a rush to discard Clowney from the teams plans, simply because he hasn't signed yet.

It's business, and business in an extremely strange time. Seems patience is winning out, despite the better efforts of some.

I think it all comes down to what he thinks he can get for a contract and if its anywhere near what he's asking for , a lot of fans will think its too much.

Every other team GM also thinks he's asking too much, thus why Clowney hasn't signed with anyone yet.

He can demand whatever he wants, but if no one gives it to him (which no one is), then he's going to have to continue to lower his demands until team's become interested again.

I sure hope we sign him...................at our price, which is around 13-15M a year. I love Clowney, but he has to understand he has serious health red flags, and he doesn't have the stats to back up asking for 18M+.

Yeah I agree.. and given that all of that takes time, I'm not sure why people jump to conclusion his chances of resigning here are dead

 

[SoulfishHawk]

It has been weeks, if anything it's benefiting the Hawks by taking so long.

 

[hawks85]

At this point into free agency Clowney is not going to get what hes currently asking for which is 17-18 I think. This guy is going to be the last free agent signed. I hope this guy doesnt return here because now I think he will be a problem in the locker room. Now the Titans are pretty much not going to sign him. I predicted the Titans now I dont know. Clowney will probably end up in Cleveland or Miami. He waited to long now he's sitting in a corner sucking this thumb. He's gonna have to deal with a not so good team for a couple of years and retry the market.

 

[hawkfan68]

At this point into free agency Clowney is not going to get what hes currently asking for which is 17-18 I think. This guy is going to be the last free agent signed. I hope this guy doesnt return here because now I think he will be a problem in the locker room. Now the Titans are pretty much not going to sign him. I predicted the Titans now I dont know. Clowney will probably end up in Cleveland or Miami. He waited to long now he's sitting in a corner sucking this thumb. He's gonna have to deal with a not so good team for a couple of years and retry the market.

It's your opinion and you're entitled to it but nothing suggests that this is even remotely true. He has never been a locker room problem.

Do you believe that Duane Brown would go out of his way to convince him to consider the Seahawks last offseason if Clowney was a terrible teammate and locker room problem?
https://sports.yahoo.com/jadeveon-clowney-former-texans-teammate-105127452.html

https://247sports.com/nfl/houston-t...w-What-Jadeveon-Clowney-is-Made-Of--74937319/

Furthermore... Quandre Diggs and Russell Wilson have publicly stated they want Clowney to come back. If he were a locker room problem, they probably wouldn't be saying this.
https://clutchpoints.com/seahawks-news-jadeveon-clowneys-teammate-tells-him-to-come-home/
https://www.seattletimes.com/sports/seahawks/russell-wilson-on-jadeveon-clowney-i-need-you-homie/

 

[Kinger95]

Maybe the Seahawks actually do like one of the guys like gross-Matos/Chaisson/Epanesa/okwara.

One of those guys could be coveted by the Hawks and if they get them they could be prepared to let clowney walk.

If they miss out on a pass rusher they like they could up the offer to clowney out of need and that’s maybe what clowney is counting on. Same goes for the titans or other interested teams

 

[HawkGA]

At this point into free agency Clowney is not going to get what hes currently asking for which is 17-18 I think. This guy is going to be the last free agent signed. I hope this guy doesnt return here because now I think he will be a problem in the locker room. Now the Titans are pretty much not going to sign him. I predicted the Titans now I dont know. Clowney will probably end up in Cleveland or Miami. He waited to long now he's sitting in a corner sucking this thumb. He's gonna have to deal with a not so good team for a couple of years and retry the market.

It's your opinion and you're entitled to it but nothing suggests that this is even remotely true. He has never been a locker room problem.

Do you believe that Duane Brown would go out of his way to convince him to consider the Seahawks last offseason if Clowney was a terrible teammate and locker room problem?
https://sports.yahoo.com/jadeveon-clowney-former-texans-teammate-105127452.html

https://247sports.com/nfl/houston-t...w-What-Jadeveon-Clowney-is-Made-Of--74937319/

Furthermore... Quandre Diggs and Russell Wilson have publicly stated they want Clowney to come back. If he were a locker room problem, they probably wouldn't be saying this.
https://clutchpoints.com/seahawks-news-jadeveon-clowneys-teammate-tells-him-to-come-home/
https://www.seattletimes.com/sports/seahawks/russell-wilson-on-jadeveon-clowney-i-need-you-homie/

In fairness to hawks85, looking forward is not the same as looking backwards. Clowney could end up ticked off that he didn't get the money he wanted and that could lead him to be less of a positive force in the locker room.

 

[MontanaHawk05]

At this point into free agency Clowney is not going to get what hes currently asking for which is 17-18 I think. This guy is going to be the last free agent signed. I hope this guy doesnt return here because now I think he will be a problem in the locker room. Now the Titans are pretty much not going to sign him. I predicted the Titans now I dont know. Clowney will probably end up in Cleveland or Miami. He waited to long now he's sitting in a corner sucking this thumb. He's gonna have to deal with a not so good team for a couple of years and retry the market.

It's your opinion and you're entitled to it but nothing suggests that this is even remotely true. He has never been a locker room problem.

Do you believe that Duane Brown would go out of his way to convince him to consider the Seahawks last offseason if Clowney was a terrible teammate and locker room problem?
https://sports.yahoo.com/jadeveon-clowney-former-texans-teammate-105127452.html

https://247sports.com/nfl/houston-t...w-What-Jadeveon-Clowney-is-Made-Of--74937319/

Furthermore... Quandre Diggs and Russell Wilson have publicly stated they want Clowney to come back. If he were a locker room problem, they probably wouldn't be saying this.
https://clutchpoints.com/seahawks-news-jadeveon-clowneys-teammate-tells-him-to-come-home/
https://www.seattletimes.com/sports/seahawks/russell-wilson-on-jadeveon-clowney-i-need-you-homie/

In fairness to hawks85, looking forward is not the same as looking backwards. Clowney could end up ticked off that he didn't get the money he wanted and that could lead him to be less of a positive force in the locker room.

He'd have 32 teams to be mad at, not just one. I suppose he could decide to be irrational and take it out on the one that signed him, but that's far from a "will".