dumbrabbit":7n6cw0xq said:
CurryStopstheRuns":7n6cw0xq said:
dumbrabbit":7n6cw0xq said:
What is the definition of a "strong" offseason? What is the threshold? Hawks don't necessarily need a "strong" offseason, whatever that means. Every offseason is crucial, don't single out one. Suh won't be some monumental signing that sets up the franchise for the future. If he can contribute, then sign him(cue the moneball references).
I would say drafting/signing for 5 contributers per offseason the next few offseasons will set the team up pretty well for the future. But most of the contributers will have to come from the draft, and that may mean not getting Suh. I think some of us need to be careful about what we wish for.
So, if the Seahawks sign Suh then they have to stop drafting for the future?
I see no where in my post where I said that. I'm not Schneider, it's his money. But I would think signing Suh to such a large contract per rumors, along with Wilson, Wagner and Lynch's extension would cripple in what we could do, in my opinion. I'm not an expert on the cap. But it just seems that way.
Yeah I'm not getting the connection either.
Ultimately, every team wants as many special players as it can acquire. Suh fits that description at a league best level. For a position that has high value, and one we don't really have. Bennett rotates in there at times. And is quite good. Suh is an additional player who can provide more than Bennett, while coexisting with him perfectly.
I can't imagine how productive Bennett could be playing end alongside Suh. I wouldn't think 12 sacks would be out of the question. Might even be the over/under prediction. Hill likewise could see a 50% or more bump in sack totals. That'd put him in the 8-9 sack range. All of a sudden, you're looking at one of the best sack producing lines in the league. That kind of pressure forces errant passes. I don't think there's a secondary in the league that is better at turning mistake/hurried passes into picks and points than ours.
What it would do, is force Seattle to replenish some good players when their rookie deals expire. Carpenter. Sweezy. Willson. Kearse. These are the kinds of players who honestly you can replace with non first round picks and still arrive at a close approximation in value. Perhaps even upgrade the positions outright.
Additionally, you're probably looking at letting some second contracts walk in 2016. Mebane, Unger and to a lesser extent Okung. The first two players you can reasonably get a good replacement with R2 to R5 picks. Okung is a bit of a problem. To get a quality LT, you have to overdraft for it. Availability concerns aside -- Okung is going to cost about what we're still paying him after this year.
Suh doesn't cripple the team. It just means you have to replace some replaceable components before they become expensive. Honestly, that's exactly how I see the Seahawk model taking shape.
Additionally, with the value of comp picks, coupled with the low expected return of our UFAs this year -- we have to consider any non released UFA/Post June 1 cut signing to be in esssence a sign and trade equivalent. We will lose any hope of getting a 3rd round comp for Maxwell if we sign a UFA. So whatever player we sign has to be a very significant improvement to the club. Otherwise, we're going to be picking through the waiver wire almost exclusively.