Refs ruined the game

[Hawk4lyfe]

Well Detroit must be pissed that Geno threw for almost 400 yards, more than 100 yards more than Goff.

Doesn't mean a thing. Look at how many attempts it took Geno to do so.... so yeah. Your argument holds no water

 

[cymatica]

Somebody's going to have to explain to me the logic of going for two in that situation. Unless they saw an opportunity/weakness in the Lions' goal line defense or that we didn't have confidence in our kicker, conventional wisdom dictated that we kick the XP.

Well it did work out but either the replay officials had money on Detroit or they forgot the rules

 

[ZagHawk]

Gotta agree. Refs made a lot of bad calls that changed the momentum Seattle had.

Actually the momentum swung hard after DK fumbled...

 

[cymatica]

Every fan base has to have at least ONE whiner in the crowd. They had something like 9 penalties called on them. So knock it off. It's embarrassing. Or, I hear SF needs a few more fans down there in Cali....

Ok, then you agree the 2pt conversion was no good and the 3 blatant DPI no calls, 2 of which happened in the end zone, were inconsequential. You think calling OPI on Lockett when the defender ran into him was a good call on 4th down.

I'm so glad we have fans like you who can teach us the proper way to react to games so we don't embarrass you in the future. Every fan base has to have at least ONE fan Karen, and we all appreciate it so much.

 

[ZagHawk]

The problem about complaining about the refs is that there is nothing there the Seahawks can control. It's the ultimate cop-out and lack of accountability...which MM is supposedly big on. It's like people who complain about taxes being the reason they don't have the life they want. Go make more money, spend less money and/or figure out how to work that system.

 

[Biscanebay12]

Well Detroit must be pissed that Geno threw for almost 400 yards, more than 100 yards more than Goff.

Ya I'm sure they're all broken up over it.

 

[SeaWolv]

Kurt Warner disagrees https://x.com/kurt13warner/status/1840947556878045224 and i've saw other ref analysts say otherwise. Troy Aikman went really quiet on it.

I just went back and watched it again and Lockett does assume a blocking posture but that's because 2 defenders stepped in front of him while he was running his route. What's he supposed to do slam into them with his hands at his sides??

It's under 10 minutes to go in the game so the refs should not be calling questionable/minor infractions like this. Only egregious calls, like the DPI on Metcalf in the endzone or the hold by Metcalf on Anzalone a few plays earlier, should be called here.

 

[RiverDog]

Actually the momentum swung hard after DK fumbled...

I agree. That was potentially a 10–14-point swing as we had moved the ball to the Lions' 37 and in all likelihood would have at least kicked a FG, but they scooped up Metcalf's fumble and returned it to our 14-yard line where they eventually scored a TD.

 

[jeremiah]

Kurt Warner disagrees https://x.com/kurt13warner/status/1840947556878045224 and i've saw other ref analysts say otherwise. Troy Aikman went really quiet on it.

RB's block and release all the time. I would have to see the play, which I did not of course. Not paying for Cable, I get channels 7 and 13 on my antenna. Every other Seattle based broadcast is non-existent. 4 and 5 have a signal strength equal to that of BC. On purpose I am sure, violating their FCC mandate.

 

[MORGULON]

Have you seen Seattle's line? Tough to run at the goal line

 

[ZagHawk]

I agree. That was potentially a 10–14-point swing as we had moved the ball to the Lions' 37 and in all likelihood would have at least kicked a FG, but they scooped up Metcalf's fumble and returned it to our 14-yard line where they eventually scored a TD.

Those are one of those game altering mistakes where you are playing from behind the rest of the game and often ends up too little too late or just chasing the entire game. You basically have to rely on the other team to make mistakes to make up for it. I really applaud the extra effort that DK took, but valuable lesson for him was learned that when chasing for extra yards need to secure the ball even harder because that 2nd and 3rd dude is coming in to punch the ball out.

I did see some other sloppiness going on I think it was JSN running up the right and he was running with the ball real low just asking for a punch out. There's gonna be plenty of tape for the Hawks to clean things up.

 

[Chrome_Seahawk]

For the missed DK PI - I think that some Refs would tell you that on a "Free Play" like that one (where the Defense was offsides) that they don't like awarding additional penalties - further down the field.....whatever the offense can accomplish there is great without the risk of interception.....but they don't like to give the offense 1st and 1 at the 1 due to Pass Interference. In their mind the Receiver either can make the reception or the offense gets the benefit of the original Penalty.

Whether or not this is the way it should be called is another story...but this has always been my impression....and was my impression of last night's call.

 

[ZagHawk]

For the missed DK PI - I think that some Refs would tell you that on a "Free Play" like that one (where the Defense was offsides) that they don't like awarding additional penalties - further down the field.....whatever the offense can accomplish there is great without the risk of interception.....but they don't like to give the offense 1st and 1 at the 1 due to Pass Interference. In their mind the Receiver either can make the reception or the offense gets the benefit of the original Penalty.

Whether or not this is the way it should be called is another story...but this has always been my impression....and was my impression of last night's call.

You really don't see defensive PI called often on a free play...or at all really. It makes sense, you're already getting a free play where your QB no longer has to worry about getting sacked and losing yards.

 

[RiverDog]

Those are one of those game altering mistakes where you are playing from behind the rest of the game and often ends up too little too late or just chasing the entire game. You basically have to rely on the other team to make mistakes to make up for it. I really applaud the extra effort that DK took, but valuable lesson for him was learned that when chasing for extra yards need to secure the ball even harder because that 2nd and 3rd dude is coming in to punch the ball out.

I did see some other sloppiness going on I think it was JSN running up the right and he was running with the ball real low just asking for a punch out. There's gonna be plenty of tape for the Hawks to clean things up.

Metcalf didn't have the ball secured properly as he didn't have the palm of his hand over the point of the football. Had he taken a direct hit on the ball itself, I might have some sympathy for him. But that fumble was entirely preventable.

I, too, applaud Metcalf's efforts to get extra yardage. But you have to be smart about it. He wasn't lunging for the goal line, a first down marker, or trying to move the ball a few yards closer for a FG attempt. A couple extra yards in that situation wasn't going to do us a helluva lot of good. Sometimes it's best just to cut your losses, prevent an injury, and take the play as it is.

 

[sutz]

RB's block and release all the time. I would have to see the play, which I did not of course. Not paying for Cable, I get channels 7 and 13 on my antenna. Every other Seattle based broadcast is non-existent. 4 and 5 have a signal strength equal to that of BC. On purpose I am sure, violating their FCC mandate.

Not downfield. Rb's do that in the backfield. TEs do that at the LOS. Lockett took a couple of steps and ran into the guy. Unfortunately, it looked too much like a block or an illegal pick and he got flagged. It was a legit call.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Not why they lost, but damn that was some serious one sided crap. DK was literally being HUGGED in the end zone. How in the world do you not call that? We would have had 1st and goal at the 1, one score game after that. Pathetic.

 

[cymatica]

The problem about complaining about the refs is that there is nothing there the Seahawks can control. It's the ultimate cop-out and lack of accountability...which MM is supposedly big on. It's like people who complain about taxes being the reason they don't have the life they want. Go make more money, spend less money and/or figure out how to work that system.

I get that, but I can't ignore it. I will still call it out and if they screw up a good game I'll bitch about it.

Found another one too. We were on the goal line and Detroit had 12 men on the field no call.

 

[cymatica]

Not why they lost, but damn that was some serious one sided crap. DK was literally being HUGGED in the end zone. How in the world do you not call that? We would have had 1st and goal at the 1, one score game after that. Pathetic.

Yet they called DK for a hold when he barely tugged the Jersey for a split second when Zack was already running by. That's what I hate, the inconsistency. If you are going to let them play, don't call ticky tack drive killing penalties

 

[SoulfishHawk]

For sure. Both guys grabbing at each other, evenly, why not just a non-call? Because it's DK Satan.

Interesting how when the Hawks were making a legit run at this game, it became ticky tack time. It became ignore obvious PI time.
Hmmmmm

 

[NoGain]

Doesn't mean a thing. Look at how many attempts it took Geno to do so.... so yeah. Your argument holds no water

Yeah, doesn't mean a thing. Sure.