Refs ruined the game

[HawkinNY]

Yeah I'll be that guy, I'll say it. DK was robbed of a 2pt. The horrible game changing PI on Lockett. Calling every ticky tack hold on us while letting the Lions hook and pull our guys on multiple big plays. DK huge PI no call.

Healthy Seahawks vs healthy Lions we win 9 out of 10

Don’t think so. Seattle got exposed so bad that what would those starters change? 10 points. Still lose. Our secondary is overrated. First real test and they didn’t stop a single pass from being caught. That’s not what a good secondary does. They are overrated.

 

[HOF Hater]

The secondary getting shredded didn't ruin the game with some bad drive killing calls that prevented a nail biter.

You can fan how you want to but don't be a fan Karen for the rest of us

Oh I'm sorry, we watched a totally different game, my bad.

 

[andyh64000]

Oh I'm sorry, we watched a totally different game, my bad.

The decimated D-Line didn't help either and that will change. Even so, two plays decided this game, DK's boneheaded fumble, and the horrific OPI call on Lockett.

 

[irfuben32]

Refs weren't perfect

DK's fumble was the difference IMO

 

[MyrtleHawk]

Honestly man it's starting to become easier and easier to see things going wrong by how certain things get hyped up. I saw this loss coming and predicted it on Aros' thread, and not only due to injuries on our DLine, but because there was too many "Seahawks have had Detroit's number for a while" and things to that extent. It's equivalent to seeing a great kicker who hasn't missed a single field goal all year and the announcer just has to utter those words: "You know, player x has made every single one of his field goals this year, so..." and then the kicker misses it. It's like a literal curse and I'm over that style of talk.

 

[JPatera76]

Honestly man it's starting to become easier and easier to see things going wrong by how certain things get hyped up. I saw this loss coming and predicted it on Aros' thread, and not only due to injuries on our DLine, but because there was too many "Seahawks have had Detroit's number for a while" and things to that extent. It's equivalent to seeing a great kicker who hasn't missed a single field goal all year and the announcer just has to utter those words: "You know, player x has made every single one of his field goals this year, so..." and then the kicker misses it. It's like a literal curse and I'm over that style of talk.

Last night was the who “Seattles defense hasn’t let an opponent score a TD after a turnover for 22yrs the longest in NFL” and then like clock work once the announcer opened his mouth Detroit scores.


This was literally hyped up like a playoff game. We know we know it. If the Lions SB but, I agree with people here, Healthy Seattle vs Healthy Lions Seattle wins 9 times out of 10.

 

[hawker84]

Oh stop Lions was penalized more than us. You sound like whiner fans.

We went up against a very good offensive team with half our defensive starters out. End of story.

 

[RiverDog]

Yeah I'll be that guy, I'll say it. DK was robbed of a 2pt. The horrible game changing PI on Lockett. Calling every ticky tack hold on us while letting the Lions hook and pull our guys on multiple big plays. DK huge PI no call.

Healthy Seahawks vs healthy Lions we win 9 out of 10

I agree, and I'll toss in the ineligible man downfield call on Cross. That was a pure technicality as it had nothing to do with the outcome of the play and he was just barely across the LOS. I got the impression that the refs were seeking attention.

But I can't say that I'd give an advantage or disadvantage to either team. The stats certainly don't support an accusation of a bias. The Lions racked up more penalties and penalty yardage than we did, and not by just a little bit. We got flagged 9 times for 70 yards while the Lions had 12 for 101.

It seems to be a trend across the league. I'd like to see a graphic that shows the number of penalties league wide at Week 4 vs. past seasons. Maybe it's just me, but it seems like they're throwing a lot more flags this season. It's a distraction, and in some games, almost makes them unwatchable.

 

[Year of The Hawk]

In the end they killed themselves with the DK fumble and porous defense and penalty killing drives. Although we did get screwed on several calls such as the 2 pt conversion and the PI on DK. Also I am not sure of the exact rule on this but I thought the running backs were not allowed to lead with the crown of their helmet. The big play Detroit had when Witherspoon got knocked back looked like a textbook definition of leading with the crown. Although I am not 100% on that. I would liked to have a win but we played a very good team with our D-line decimated. Did anyone think we were going to go undefeated all year. Next game up.

 

[pmedic920]

Lions - 12 penalties 101 yards
Seahawks - 9 penalties 70 yards

yes that doesn't tell the full story but I saw a lot of missed calls against us too.

I wasn’t watching for missed calls against us, if you were and what you say is true that only furthers the narrative of how bad that crew was.

 

[SeaWolv]

Mcdonald said the ref booth had already reviewed the 2pt try and said it was no good. Where they blind?

The lockett opi was brutal. Could tell Detroit was getting nervous about us possibly tying it up

John Parry, the rules analyst, said on the broadcast that the Lockett OPI was legit. You can't block and then run a route which is exactly what Lockett did. Parry said the refs will call that every time.

Now the 2 point conversion miss was ridiculous as it was clearly a score and the broadcasters said as much. The other egregious no call was the DPI on Metcalf. That should have been 1st and goal at the one yard line. That's 9-10 points the Hawks got screwed out of. Maybe not enough to change the outcome but who knows.

Too bad the Dline was so banged up or the Hawks win this walking away.

 

[CanHawksFan]

The refs weren't the reason the Seahawks lost the game. But there were definitely some things I didn't like. People are talking about the OPI on Lockett, but I thought the refs also missed a very obvious pass interference call against the Lions on a play on that same drive in the first half where DK fumbled.

A couple of plays before that the Detroit defender was clearly hanging onto Lockett's off arm as the ball came to him for what would have been a first down throw. Lockett ended up having to try to catch with one arm and couldn't do it. As soon as the ball bounced away he looked at the ref who was standing right there and held out his arms wondering where the flag was.

At that point I assumed that meant that the refs would just let a lot of contact go between WRs and CBs, but I guess not.

 

[hawks85]

I'm pissed we lost like everyone else. The mouth breathing jizz bag media is gonna have fun with this Seahawk loss. It's all good tho. They saying Hawks are overrated, Ok, with 3/4 of our entire D sidelined Lions should have jolly whooped us and they didn't. We lit up Detroit and the difference is...pay attention Lion fans, you guys had your starters. Just give me Boye and Williams in this game and we win. Detroit didn't expose shit. You celebrating a win over our preseason defense it's nothing to brag about. We still had more total yards and rushing yards against your so called "elite defense" You should have in reality blew out the water and you didn't with your starters, so I ask again, who is really overrated?

 

[Glasgow Seahawk]

The refs weren't the reason the Seahawks lost the game. But there were definitely some things I didn't like. People are talking about the OPI on Lockett, but I thought the refs also missed a very obvious pass interference call against the Lions on a play on that same drive in the first half where DK fumbled.

A couple of plays before that the Detroit defender was clearly hanging onto Lockett's off arm as the ball came to him for what would have been a first down throw. Lockett ended up having to try to catch with one arm and couldn't do it. As soon as the ball bounced away he looked at the ref who was standing right there and held out his arms wondering where the flag was.

At that point I assumed that meant that the refs would just let a lot of contact go between WRs and CBs, but I guess not.

I think Detroit still would have won but it robbed the viewer of a great game that could have went down to the last drive.

 

[Glasgow Seahawk]

John Parry, the rules analyst, said on the broadcast that the Lockett OPI was legit. You can't block and then run a route which is exactly what Lockett did. Parry said the refs will call that every time.

Now the 2 point conversion miss was ridiculous as it was clearly a score and the broadcasters said as much. The other egregious no call was the DPI on Metcalf. That should have been 1st and goal at the one yard line. That's 9-10 points the Hawks got screwed out of. Maybe not enough to change the outcome but who knows.

Too bad the Dline was so banged up or the Hawks win this walking away.

Kurt Warner disagrees https://x.com/kurt13warner/status/1840947556878045224 and i've saw other ref analysts say otherwise. Troy Aikman went really quiet on it.

 

[RiverDog]

John Parry, the rules analyst, said on the broadcast that the Lockett OPI was legit. You can't block and then run a route which is exactly what Lockett did. Parry said the refs will call that every time.

Now the 2 point conversion miss was ridiculous as it was clearly a score and the broadcasters said as much. The other egregious no call was the DPI on Metcalf. That should have been 1st and goal at the one yard line. That's 9-10 points the Hawks got screwed out of. Maybe not enough to change the outcome but who knows.

Too bad the Dline was so banged up or the Hawks win this walking away.

Somebody's going to have to explain to me the logic of going for two in that situation. Unless they saw an opportunity/weakness in the Lions' goal line defense or that we didn't have confidence in our kicker, conventional wisdom dictated that we kick the XP.

 

[cymatica]

Oh I'm sorry, we watched a totally different game, my bad.

You must have been watching the Dolphins game

 

[Hawk4lyfe]

Yeah I'll be that guy, I'll say it. DK was robbed of a 2pt. The horrible game changing PI on Lockett. Calling every ticky tack hold on us while letting the Lions hook and pull our guys on multiple big plays. DK huge PI no call.

Healthy Seahawks vs healthy Lions we win 9 out of 10

Every fan base has to have at least ONE whiner in the crowd. They had something like 9 penalties called on them. So knock it off. It's embarrassing. Or, I hear SF needs a few more fans down there in Cali....

 

[AROS]

We went up against a very good offensive team with half our defensive starters out. End of story.

This precisely sums it up for me.

 

[Hawk4lyfe]

Nah, this team is just ass. Not so easy when you have to face a tougher test than the Patriots. Witherspoon was a joke. Geno was embarrassing the last two drives.

Why the hell did they call so many passes near the end? Especially on the goal line. It isn't Tom Brady standing back there. Run the ball, or dump screens etc... felt predictable