QBOTF?

[Zorn2Largent]

We need to find a franchise QB because
A: if Sam turns into the franchise QB we need a backup if he goes down.
B: if Sam is at best a game manager, we need a franchise QB.
C: If Sam regresses, we need a franchise QB.

I hear one of the .net fans say he has a tree out back he can pluck them from. So maybe there isn't an urgent need, but I kinda think there is always an urgent need to find the next Wilson.

 

[Hawkpower]

-- I admit my standing disdain for most QBs, and I truly hope to be proved very wrong, but I still get some Dilfer vibes from Darnold. You just can't miss that first read on our first drive. Easy TD. 13 points against a weak defense is not great. Okay, let's say 19 points as Myers was up to his old habits again. All I am saying is I wouldn't push an upgrade at QB out of bed.

-- On the other side of it, I still can't tell if defenses just started to figure us out offensively, or if we really miss Horton as much as it seems. He was our legit deep threat. Our offense was humming before his injury. Shaheed's lack of production as WR2 is a problem. I really think we miss Horton.

Mase

Darnold has arm talent Dilfer could only dream about

Not to mention superior athleticism. By a mile

 

[Rat]

Darnold has arm talent Dilfer could only dream about

Not to mention superior athleticism. By a mile

Dilfer was a high-end QB prospect with exceptional arm talent. The difference is that, while Sam rebounded from his early failures with an inept organization and became a guy who can win games, Dilfer became a bit shell-shocked and transformed into a game manager that largely stopped relying on his gifts that never fully developed. Not that what Dilfer did wasn't impressive too, given the depth of his lows in Tampa.

 

[glenwo2]

I'm not sold on Darnold. He's not a game manager with his turnover problems. He's a gunslinger, like Favre. Our defense might win us a SB, but Darnold won't win SB MVP imo. I'd like us to find an actual franchise QB.

So if Darnold doesn't win the SB MVP, that's your criteria?


People seem to be moving goal-posts all over the place lately....

 

[glenwo2]

Sam is under contract until 2027. He'll be 30 and his cap hit will be $42M. He seems a Joe Flacco type which will be fine for KK/MM's system, but also keep in mind this is his first year so we might just see some growth from familiarity. He mentioned after the 49ers game his 'improvement' has been a function of "staying calm" and going through his progressions. Both should improve in year 2.

Milroe had a whole shopping list of things to work on last offseason, mostly feet and mechanics, so the next phase of his development is getting to a level of consistency where they feel comfortable letting Drew Lock walk.

By 2027, Milroe may be a Drake Maye type of player: 60-65% completion rate, mostly short/quick passes, but extends plays and gets first downs with his feet. Maye had 98 rushes for 409 yards and 35 1st down this year. Milroe is a more dynamic runner for sure, but he will need to get his reads and mechanics up to snuff before he will see the field.

tldr; we are fine for now and won't have to make any decisions at QB until 2028.

Drake Maye????

Uhh...It's nice to dream, i guess.

 

[glenwo2]

Because I'm smarter than everyone else, I conclude that Jalen won't ever cut it in the NFL based on his 4 snaps.

I'm a Genius, man.

I play Madden all the time.

 

[glenwo2]

I never liked Locke. It's kinda a gimmick to have Locke. I dont beleive he could win one game in six let alone 14. If Milroe can't hold the clipboard without fumbling it then he should go on the practice squad. If that's the case let's get jacoby brissette as a capable backup; Locke is far from it.

Sam Darnold probowler and starter
Jacoby competant back up

Or

Sam Darnold Starter
Milroe back up


Milroe should be thrust in there. (If we dont get a winner) Take our lumps, develope the man. Locke is weak.

I get the overwhelming feeling that this thread is about Sam being a loser narrative.

Uh oh...You just put up the Bat Signal @toffee signal.....

 

[glenwo2]

We need to find a franchise QB because
A: if Sam turns into the franchise QB we need a backup if he goes down.
B: if Sam is at best a game manager, we need a franchise QB.
C: If Sam regresses, we need a franchise QB.

I hear one of the .net fans say he has a tree out back he can pluck them from. So maybe there isn't an urgent need, but I kinda think there is always an urgent need to find the next Wilson.

 

[Jegpeg]

QBs that can virtually win it all for the team are extremey rare a 100/1 shot at best without a top 5 draft pick (and maybe 30/1 with one). What we have now is a decent QB with an outstanding roster. We won it all with RW3 and should challenge for it with Sam.

How long the window will be is hard to tell, when the likes of JSN, and Spoon get paid we may or may not be able to find good qualitie rookies (and others) able to do a good job constrained ot the rest of the salary cap. This thread isn't about that but it also depends on how long Darnold plays at a decent level, RW3 got too big for the team, age caught up with Geno, and QB is one bad injury away from retirement (or never playing at the same standard again). We have holes that are a priority so we shouldn't be looking directly at a QBOTF but we do need a decent back up, I haven't seen enough of Milroe to determine if he has grown enough to be our back up next season and potenial QBOTF, I hope he has because only having 2 QBs would free up another roster spot, if he hasn't then I think we should look to upgrade Locke but that would probably be more a bridge QB than a QBOTF with so few picks we can't afford a high draft pick on another QB (and a low draft pick would almost certianly not be good enough to be back up in Week 1 of 2026.

 

[glenwo2]

QBs that can virtually win it all for the team are extremey rare a 100/1 shot at best without a top 5 draft pick (and maybe 30/1 with one). What we have now is a decent QB with an outstanding roster. We won it all with RW3 and should challenge for it with Sam.

How long the window will be is hard to tell, when the likes of JSN, and Spoon get paid we may or may not be able to find good qualitie rookies (and others) able to do a good job constrained ot the rest of the salary cap. This thread isn't about that but it also depends on how long Darnold plays at a decent level, RW3 got too big for the team, age caught up with Geno, and QB is one bad injury away from retirement (or never playing at the same standard again). We have holes that are a priority so we shouldn't be looking directly at a QBOTF but we do need a decent back up, I haven't seen enough of Milroe to determine if he has grown enough to be our back up next season and potenial QBOTF, I hope he has because only having 2 QBs would free up another roster spot, if he hasn't then I think we should look to upgrade Locke but that would probably be more a bridge QB than a QBOTF with so few picks we can't afford a high draft pick on another QB (and a low draft pick would almost certianly not be good enough to be back up in Week 1 of 2026.

RW3 got too big for the team, age caught up with Geno

Good thing Sam doesn't seem to be the Primadonna type and he's only 28 years old unlike Old man GeNope.

 

[Ad Hawk]

I wonder if fans are right to expect Sam to be better than he is in his first year here. I'd bet as even he gets more time in this offense, and reading defenses, we might find he's even more comfortable. He could be the QBOTF right now.

But if the GM and Coach are worth their salt, they're always looking for better talent. The problem is that talent = $$$. You cannot sink too much into your backup QB.

 

[AnimeAmore]

Do you think Milroe has a shot?

No, and it was a stupid pick. We can't expect perfection obviously, but it was a dumb pick.

No way we carry 3 QBs next year, and it's highly unlikely Milroe beats Lock (who is on a cheap deal).

Prediction: Milroe is forced to earn a spot as a WR/RB or he gets cut. There isn't space for a 3rd QB so he's gotta earn a spot at another position. It especially makes sense since he was envisioned as some weird QB/WR/RB combo anyway.

 

[Count Hawkula]

Let's enjoy this moment. Then we can go back to firing everyone and looking for the next QB. Just a thought. I intend to fully immerse myself into this team. Let's go Hawks!

 

[Jegpeg]

He could be the QBOTF right now.

Isn't that an Oxymoron.

Sam is the QBOTP (QB of the present) he wont last forever and identifying the QBOTF looking for someone to replace him when Sam needs to be replaced. That could be 5 or more years away, so we are in a position where having a bridge as back-up (someone who is capable in the roll if Sam get injured but is to old to be a long term replacement) is fine if Milroe isn't our QBOTF.

 

[MoldyPurpleMayo]

No way we carry 3 QBs next year, and it's highly unlikely Milroe beats Lock (who is on a cheap deal).

Prediction: Milroe is forced to earn a spot as a WR/RB or he gets cut. There isn't space for a 3rd QB so he's gotta earn a spot at another position. It especially makes sense since he was envisioned as some weird QB/WR/RB combo anyway.

Absolutely won't happen. Schneider's not going to quit on Milroe (as a QB) after just one season if he doesn't beat Lock, and I doubt MM would either.

 

[Seahawks81]

Lock is terrible, he been in league for a long time and can't hold Geno's jock strap. And Geno declined fast. Lock not beating out anyone.. This whole thread is ridiculous.

 

[Seahawks81]

The last year Lock actually played he has 59% completion ratio and 6 TD to 5 INTs. He is garbage. He has been in the league since 2019 and hasn't done shit. He not good folks.. sorry

 

[Glasgow Seahawk]

I do think if we aren't happy with Milroe's progress we should keep trying to get a developmental QB to eventually take over, but im in no rush to replace Sam right now.