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Ozzy

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The problem is that you are either going to be going with a rookie, and there isn't anyone in this draft that is a great prospect where the Seahawks could get him, or you're grabbing a free agent reclamation project like you said.

Who is the next Darnold or Baker out there in free agency? Daniel Jones, maybe. You probably can't afford to pay Geno and Jones - would you be confident enough to out and out release Geno to sign Jones?

I'm not saying it's impossible. I'm saying that I don't see anyone out there that I'd expect to be able to replace Geno's production.
That’s reasonable. I’d only add that almost no one believed in Geno or Baker either.

I think the most likely scenario is they ask Geno to play out his contract next year, draft someone they like and let him back up for a year and if they love him he starts the next year, if not they probably go all in on a guy in 2026.
 

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I'm at loss on the QB front. I don't see a better option than Geno next year. I have a hard time even coming up with names to draft or bring in to develop behind him. I suppose I'd take a flier on Zach Wilson, but it would be nothing more than that. Allar seemed interesting when I looked more into him, but he's still not coming out. Darnold is likely to get overpaid somewhere. I'm curious what the 9ers do with Purdy, but I'm not sure I'd want to bankroll our future on him in the event he becomes available. Trey Lance? Gardner Minshew? Justin Fields? Daniel Jones? Aaron Rodgers? RW?

I don't know.
 

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I think the Seahawks need to rip the band aid off. Geno Smith is by no means a bad QB, but he really is another Kirk Cousins sort of figure. Cousins wasn't bad either, but he never was going to be that guy that elevated your team. Cousins, in affect was just a placeholder. He had some decent years, but his playoff record was miserable and he had a lot of games where he would just derp out.

Geno Smith is this sort of QB. He offers nothing for the future other than a warm body. Let him play out his contract and start making moves to get a developmental prospect on board.

The Vikings were faced with a similar dilemma and decided that they were going to draft a top 10 QB and sign a veteran QB with potential instead of re-signing Cousins. I think Geno is going to be our QB next year, but I think we just need to ride the contract out and let him walk at this point.
 

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I'm at loss on the QB front. I don't see a better option than Geno next year. I have a hard time even coming up with names to draft or bring in to develop behind him. I suppose I'd take a flier on Zach Wilson, but it would be nothing more than that. Allar seemed interesting when I looked more into him, but he's still not coming out. Darnold is likely to get overpaid somewhere. I'm curious what the 9ers do with Purdy, but I'm not sure I'd want to bankroll our future on him in the event he becomes available. Trey Lance? Gardner Minshew? Justin Fields? Daniel Jones? Aaron Rodgers? RW?

I don't know.
I’m at the same place. I guess though that they pay John to be creative with this stuff so I’m going to trust he figures something out or if Geno is back they go ham on fixing the line.
 

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Time will tell on Geno, his stats numbers point to him being a top level QB. However, he’s significantly inconsistent, very good at times, then he takes a sack which ends a drive b/c he just doesn’t throw the ball away, or turns the ball over in the red zone.
It can’t escape notice that his cap number for next season is significant yet lower than many top tier QBs, perhaps the team and him can work a restructure by adding a void year, but he has value. Maybe he could be traded, maybe he’ll be a cap casualty, maybe he’ll be kept, time will tell.

He’s an interesting player and he will present a complicated decision for the FO. Far above my pay grade will that decision be for the team.

i have been quite critical of him and think he’s a bit of a head case who can’t play hurt or suffers concentration issues when he is hit and doesn’t seem clutch at times yet is on point at others. He sure generally throws an accurate pass, when not inclined to hold onto the ball too long. I think his game would be way better if he ran the ball more, but then again he doesn’t like being hit.l
 

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Which QBOTF? Where are you going to find this paragon? It's not worth saying "get rid of Geno" without a plan to replace him.
You missed the point i made about unless if we work a deal for JJ McCarthy 👍. If not keep Geno for a year and draft Dart or Milroe.
 

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Committing $25M to Smith on March 16 looked straight forward. Now it's $31M and the decision doesn't look so clear cut.
 

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I’d bet there’s a couple/few teams that would take Geno in a NY minute.

I simply don’t believe we have it as bad as some of you think.

With better protection Geno could be amazing IMO, and no matter who we brought in to replace him we need to upgrade the O line.

With no clear prospects, I think we roll with Geno AND I’m completely OK with it.

I think we have a below average QB class coming this draft, I don’t think there will be any FAs available that we would be any happier with, if there is I don’t want to see us strap ourselves for the next 2-4 years.

I don’t see a scenario that makes more sense than staying the course with Geno, and hoping something breaks in our favor for the “26” season.
 

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Jake Browning could be a discount Geno Smith, he was pretty good last season in 7 starts, probably could be 90% of Geno at a fraction of the cost.
 

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Jake Browning could be a discount Geno Smith, he was pretty good last season in 7 starts, probably could be 90% of Geno at a fraction of the cost.
And that 10% less of a QB easily could cost more than 10% less wins, even with some upgrades in other areas. Not saying it would, but it could and I don’t think any of us wants that scenario.

I understand the bang for the buck implications, but I’d rather not take the gamble.
 

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And that 10% less of a QB easily could cost more than 10% less wins, even with some upgrades in other areas. Not saying it would, but it could and I don’t think any of us wants that scenario.

I understand the bang for the buck implications, but I’d rather not take the gamble.

Maybe, maybe not. If you take Geno's stats this year compared to Browning's last year, advanced stats even show Browning as having slightly better output than Geno, e.g. they both had roughly the same completion rating, same successful play rate, same interception rate, and Browning had even slightly better bad throw % along with other stats leaning a bit towards him. One difference is that Browning can make plays with his feet. Plus he's younger, and was a UW guy.

Geno's whole career arc was overcoming the naysayers after being written off, well Browning kind of has that same story, except that he didnt even get drafted. I remember him being talked about as the next Pac-12 star 1st round QB after his great sophomore season at UW, he had shoulder surgery then and couldnt get back to that level the next two years. He's then undrafted, bounced around practice squads, before working his way to backup QB for the Bengals, he's learning in a great offense with a great QBs coach. So the guy has overcome odds already, but could see him continuing to defy expectations and becoming a solid starter in the league, where else would that fit better than in Seattle?
 

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It’ll be Geno unless the team wants to reboot. Seriously the options other than Geno will lead to a losing season in 25 for sure
 

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Maybe, maybe not. If you take Geno's stats this year compared to Browning's last year, advanced stats even show Browning as having slightly better output than Geno, e.g. they both had roughly the same completion rating, same successful play rate, same interception rate, and Browning had even slightly better bad throw % along with other stats leaning a bit towards him. One difference is that Browning can make plays with his feet. Plus he's younger, and was a UW guy.

Geno's whole career arc was overcoming the naysayers after being written off, well Browning kind of has that same story, except that he didnt even get drafted. I remember him being talked about as the next Pac-12 star 1st round QB after his great sophomore season at UW, he had shoulder surgery then and couldnt get back to that level the next two years. He's then undrafted, bounced around practice squads, before working his way to backup QB for the Bengals, he's learning in a great offense with a great QBs coach. So the guy has overcome odds already, but could see him continuing to defy expectations and becoming a solid starter in the league, where else would that fit better than in Seattle?
Let me reiterate:

I’d rather not take the gamble…
Even if it saves a few bucks.

Either way we need to upgrade the OLine, I’d rather roll with Geno and focus on the other needs.
 

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I'd kick the tires on Z.Wilson or Justin Fields before I'd go after McCarthy. Wilson and Fields are UFAs. McCarthy's never taken a snap in an NFL game...
 

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Geno's not a transcendent talent, but he hit a peak in 2024 - 4,000 yards and a 70% comp rate while playing behind one of the league's worst offensive lines, a barely-existent run game, a rookie OC who was way out of his depth in the red zone, and a veteran receiver who doesn't want to get hit anymore. That's a tantalizing hint of his potential to the front office.

In the end, he's going to benefit from a collision of a lack of clear alternatives and Mike/Grubb's inability to get him even league-average protection or scheming this year. He makes numerous pro throws all day that two games of Sam Howell, Trey Lance, or Zach Wilson will quickly make everyone appreciate in retrospect. And yesterday's commentary was favorable to him in this regard, pointing out how many of Geno's throws were precisely placed right where only the receiver could get it. You'll miss that with *checks notes* Justin Fields.

It'd be silly to bench him next year (assuming he continues) even if we did draft a rookie QB, and we won't.
 

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IF they draft a guy and have him sit behind Geno for one year? Ok. I think Geno would actually be a hell of a mentor and he would embrace that role.
 

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