PFF ranks our O-line 31st in the league

[Sgt. Largent]

I don't have a problem with Bevell. We saw in the 2nd half of last year that if he's given good talent to work with, he's more than adept at putting together game plans, scheming and making adjustments.

Bevell will never be considered an offensive genius or guru, but with the talent this team has we don't need that.

 

[pehawk]

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[Sgt. Largent]

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[RiverDog]

I'll have to frame my comments about Carpenter by first noting that I've never been a big fan of his. I didn't like the pick when we chose him two years ago and I got really down on him when he reported to his first ever NFL training camp way out of shape. I don't know if his injuries are do to his being out of shape, but it does make you wonder and gives cause to question the man's work ethic.

Carpenter is a very good run blocker at the point of attack, but he lacks the foot quickness to get out on the second level and take on linebackers or to cut off pursuit on plays away from his side. Take a look at the Texas game where Beast fumbled and you'll see what I mean. Carpenter was supposed to block Cushing on that play, but before he could get on him, Cushing had read the play and was past Carpenter and met Beast a split second after the handoff. Same goes for his pass blocking. He can defeat a bull rush, but he doesn't have the foot quickness to re-establish himself between his man and the quarterback when a DT gets him leaning one way or the other.

It would seem that Cable and PC prefer McQ at guard over a healthy Carpenter. Otherwise, we wouldn't have seen McQ starting against the Niners then Carpenter coming in and playing the rest of the game after McQ was moved to OT when Okung when down. I honestly think that this will be Carpenter's last hurrah with us.

 

[plyka]

LOL at people who actually take stock in this crap.

LOL at people who can't see our oline is crap.

 

[themunn]

It's not clear to me how we can be the #2 ranked rushing team and the #10 overall offense with an OL that is rated #31. Sure, Lynch is one of the best YAC backs in the league and Russell is one of if not the best scrambling quarterbacks in the league, but even if you factor all that in, #31 seems really low.

Wilson has 233 yards and Lynch 410, it's quite clear Wilson's scrambling ability is inflating our rushing yardage somewhat (which the O-Line can take a little credit for but not much).

Furthermore, Lynch is averaging 4.3 YPC which is pedestrian in this league (18th among RBs with 30+ carries), yet that's despite his ridiculous yards-after-contact figure (which I can't find off hand). Lynch is playing as hard as ever, so the blame has to come down to the O-Line.

It's not surprise really that both Turbin and Lynch's YPC has taken a roughly 1ypc drop this year from last.

I understand that. But 31st in the league? Second worst, worse even than the Jags? We're 4-1 with an offense that's ranked 10th in the league and 7th in points scored. Are offensive lines that inconsequential?

Like I said, I fully agree that our OL is not up to snuff. But there's far too many gaping holes our backs have had run through and we've won too many games, two of them by wide margins, for our offensive line to be ranked 2nd worst in the league. You could talk me into a ranking in the high 20's, but not second worst. There's too many bad teams out there ranked above us for me to buy a ranking like that.

OK, how about this, in 3rd and 4th and less than 2 situations, Lynch has yet to convert a 3rd of 4th by rushing.
221 of Lynch's 410 yards have come from his 11 10+ yard carries, which means that he is averaging 2.2 YPC on rushes less than 10 yards (last year it was 3.2, a full YPC more).

But the most telling of all - one of the major reasons for our success in the run game over the past 2 years has been the fact that our O-Line can wear down the opponent and we can pile up yards in the second half. Over half of Lynch's yards have come in the first QUARTER, where he is averaging 7.7 YPC. In the remaining 3 quarters after that he's averaging 3.0, 2.5 and 3.1 YPC. Simply put, we're not wearing down the opponent any more, just our running back. He has 108 yards on 39 carries in the second half. Now here's the amazing part - 4 of those runs went for more than 10 yards - 14, 14, 17 and 18 - which means that on his rushes less than 10 yards, he's averaging less than 1.3 YPC.

That's also the reason for the playcalling going away from the run against Indy in the second half

 

[RiverDog]

It's not clear to me how we can be the #2 ranked rushing team and the #10 overall offense with an OL that is rated #31. Sure, Lynch is one of the best YAC backs in the league and Russell is one of if not the best scrambling quarterbacks in the league, but even if you factor all that in, #31 seems really low.

Wilson has 233 yards and Lynch 410, it's quite clear Wilson's scrambling ability is inflating our rushing yardage somewhat (which the O-Line can take a little credit for but not much).

Furthermore, Lynch is averaging 4.3 YPC which is pedestrian in this league (18th among RBs with 30+ carries), yet that's despite his ridiculous yards-after-contact figure (which I can't find off hand). Lynch is playing as hard as ever, so the blame has to come down to the O-Line.

It's not surprise really that both Turbin and Lynch's YPC has taken a roughly 1ypc drop this year from last.

I understand that. But 31st in the league? Second worst, worse even than the Jags? We're 4-1 with an offense that's ranked 10th in the league and 7th in points scored. Are offensive lines that inconsequential?

Like I said, I fully agree that our OL is not up to snuff. But there's far too many gaping holes our backs have had run through and we've won too many games, two of them by wide margins, for our offensive line to be ranked 2nd worst in the league. You could talk me into a ranking in the high 20's, but not second worst. There's too many bad teams out there ranked above us for me to buy a ranking like that.

OK, how about this, in 3rd and 4th and less than 2 situations, Lynch has yet to convert a 3rd of 4th by rushing.
221 of Lynch's 410 yards have come from his 11 10+ yard carries, which means that he is averaging 2.2 YPC on rushes less than 10 yards (last year it was 3.2, a full YPC more).

But the most telling of all - one of the major reasons for our success in the run game over the past 2 years has been the fact that our O-Line can wear down the opponent and we can pile up yards in the second half. Over half of Lynch's yards have come in the first QUARTER, where he is averaging 7.7 YPC. In the remaining 3 quarters after that he's averaging 3.0, 2.5 and 3.1 YPC. Simply put, we're not wearing down the opponent any more, just our running back. He has 108 yards on 39 carries in the second half. Now here's the amazing part - 4 of those runs went for more than 10 yards - 14, 14, 17 and 18 - which means that on his rushes less than 10 yards, he's averaging less than 1.3 YPC.

That's also the reason for the playcalling going away from the run against Indy in the second half

I agree with everything you're saying. But 31st in the league? No way!

 

[brimsalabim]

I've read that we have the only unit in the league that is currently in the bottom five run and pass.