Pete needs to complain!

[Polaris]

We should just build robots to be referees.

That's actually not the worst idea I've ever heard. At the very least we need to make use of current technology to try to remove the human element in officiating as much as we can. That means laser sensors and location chips on sidelines and footballs (like they do right now in tennis) for starts.

 

[dontbelikethat]

Check this out. Crabtree was interfered with on a play no PI was called. Also, when the Niners blocked the Seahawks punt and the punter got flagged for slapping the ball forward, however the Niners had to start the drive where the punter illegally slapped the ball which around the 40 yard line instead of at Seattle 10.

Officiating was bad for both sides. I haven't seen a replay yet, but I don't get what your point is for the punt call. I'm not aware of the punter slapping the ball, but I am aware of when one of our players slapped the ball forward when it was going out of bounds (which got penalized?) which the I'm pretty sure the refs called correctly. After the punt was blocked, the ball is still live until it is downed or out of bounds, the ball was starting to go out of bounds and one of our players slapped it forward (away from your endzone) and the penalty was enforced from that spot which is right? I don't know where the exact spot is, but the ball was last live right before he hit it forward so the immediate LOS would've been there, then the penalty from slapping it forward gave you even better field position. I don't know what the refs did wrong?

 

[SoulfishHawk]

If Pete complained, they'd likely tell him to shut up. They're too busy taking care of Lord Harbaugh....

 

[Polaris]

Check this out. Crabtree was interfered with on a play no PI was called. Also, when the Niners blocked the Seahawks punt and the punter got flagged for slapping the ball forward, however the Niners had to start the drive where the punter illegally slapped the ball which around the 40 yard line instead of at Seattle 10.

Officiating was bad for both sides. I haven't seen a replay yet, but I don't get what your point is for the punt call. I'm not aware of the punter slapping the ball, but I am aware of when one of our players slapped the ball forward when it was going out of bounds (which got penalized?) which the I'm pretty sure the refs called correctly. After the punt was blocked, the ball is still live until it is downed or out of bounds, the ball was starting to go out of bounds and one of our players slapped it forward (away from your endzone) and the penalty was enforced from that spot which is right? I don't know where the exact spot is, but the ball was last live right before he hit it forward so the immediate LOS would've been there, then the penalty from slapping it forward gave you even better field position. I don't know what the refs did wrong?

No, the punt call was actually correctly handled. It's talked about on footballzebras. Even though the punt was blocked (touched), the momentum of the kick was still enough to deliver the ball past the line of scrimmage. At that point what was done becomes "illegal touching" which is a foul. However, the only allowable penalty is a replay of the down after a five yard penalty.

It was an extremely savvy football move.

 

[AF_Hawk]

I do think the Crabtree fumble fiasco needs to be submitted to the league. The biggest problem in officiating is consistency right now and that was a glaring mistake.

Biggest problem I had with that horrible no call is that the receiver was already going down, there was no need to blow the play dead.

 

[Scottemojo]

Who claimed that the fumble cost them the game or said that one call is causing the whole game to be judged as poorly officiated? Now you're just making things up and stirring the pot. I made a statement about one play in a vacuum, and now you're running with it. If you would actually consider what I said about it, you'd know it wasn't about a human error judgement call - it was about one official saying one thing, and then another official making a different ruling on it.

You complained about it on the first page.

Doesn't change the fact that officials are graded after every game, and plays are reviewed. If you've ever listened to Mike Pereira interviewed, it's quite the lengthy process by the league and officials office. So just because you personally aren't privy to how games and certain calls are reviewed doesn't mean it's not happening.

So when people just yell out "OMG SOMEBODY HAS TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE OFFICIATING!"..........that's just dumb and makes us look like all the other bush league fanbases we complain about.

The minute you invoked Baghdad Mike as your authority, you lost all credibility.

 

[razgriz737]

We should just build robots to be referees.

That's actually not the worst idea I've ever heard. At the very least we need to make use of current technology to try to remove the human element in officiating as much as we can. That means laser sensors and location chips on sidelines and footballs (like they do right now in tennis) for starts.

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[AF_Hawk]

Dangit wrong button, delete please didn't mean to quote myself

 

[BGHawk]

Yesterday..I would have agreed with you..today..I don't. We got beat by the niners. It sucks, but no way should pete complain. Go hawks

 

[4BlatantAgent9]

Check this out. Crabtree was interfered with on a play no PI was called. Also, when the Niners blocked the Seahawks punt and the punter got flagged for slapping the ball forward, however the Niners had to start the drive where the punter illegally slapped the ball which around the 40 yard line instead of at Seattle 10.

Officiating was bad for both sides. I haven't seen a replay yet, but I don't get what your point is for the punt call. I'm not aware of the punter slapping the ball, but I am aware of when one of our players slapped the ball forward when it was going out of bounds (which got penalized?) which the I'm pretty sure the refs called correctly. After the punt was blocked, the ball is still live until it is downed or out of bounds, the ball was starting to go out of bounds and one of our players slapped it forward (away from your endzone) and the penalty was enforced from that spot which is right? I don't know where the exact spot is, but the ball was last live right before he hit it forward so the immediate LOS would've been there, then the penalty from slapping it forward gave you even better field position. I don't know what the refs did wrong?

No, the punt call was actually correctly handled. It's talked about on footballzebras. Even though the punt was blocked (touched), the momentum of the kick was still enough to deliver the ball past the line of scrimmage. At that point what was done becomes "illegal touching" which is a foul. However, the only allowable penalty is a replay of the down after a five yard penalty.

It was an extremely savvy football move.

In a nutshell, SF was denied 17 yards on that play. Refs did nothing wrong, they correctly enforced a stupid rule that will most likely be altered in the offseason. Should be treated as a dead ball penalty. I know the play is not "technically" dead but it just seems like a loophole more than a football play. As far as it being "extremely savvy"....meh, I honestly think Bruce Maragos was acting on football instincts in getting the ball away from his own goal line. He wasn't thinking of rules and regulations or any repercussions, just playing football.

 

[Scottemojo]

No doubt, Maragos proved with his ill fated toss during the Titans game he isn't exactly "thinking" during special teams disasters.

 

[HansGruber]

Why complain?

It was actually awesome, because it puts San Fran back into the Wild Card race. So they win a playoff game and travel to Seattle, where we stomp the living hell out of em and send them home in the postseason.

I can't think of anything I'd rather see on my way to the Superbowl. It's going to be awesome to remember that smarmy laughter from Kaep at the end of Sunday's game, and then look down on the field and see him walking off the field with 30 seconds still on the clock, chin against chest, pouting like a 10 year old bitch. Then tune into the post-game presser and watch him mistreat the media and act like a little punk, right before Harbaugh gets up there and repeats the act. I'm going to laugh and laugh and laugh.

Yeah, a lot of bad calls went their way. And they still barely beat us by 2 points. It's going to be a bloodbath if they make it back to Seattle in the postseason (frankly, I don't think they'll make it past the wild card round though).

 

[chris98251]

As much as fans would hate it I think they should get rid of instant replay and posting it in stadiums. Also change the grading system. Officials are so concerned about being wrong they are now over offciating the game.

Also the protect the player mantra needs to be squelched, the NFL is so concerened about lawsuits that it's pushing the officials hard to make incidental none effecting contact a flagable offense, again due to grades if they miss it and a player gets seen by the NFL in replays of the game they get down graded.

You don't want self concious officials out there and thats what we have.

The game had mistakes in calls 20 years ago or so before replay, but the game was more enjoyable to watch because it flowed and players were able to show their skills. It's becoming a drudgery to watch with officials dictating the pass and killing the drives and ability of teams to have a flow and stratedgy and effecting game plans.

 

[BGHawk]

I'm pretty sure his name is Chris Maragos..not Bruce

 

[SouthSoundHawk]

Learn and adapt.

 

[hawksfansinceday1]

..........So Goodell doesn't need us to point out bad calls. He's on it, and the league's on it.........................most games are officiated well.

COMPLETELY disagree. I think most games are officiated rather poorly and I don't think Rog and his cronies give a shit.

So one perceived bad call on the Crabtree fumble, and the ENTIRE game was poorly officiated?

I'll tell you what I tell my kids when they complain, give me a better way of doing things. So what's your answer? You're asking human beings to make quick judgement calls in a game moving 100 mph in 20 different directions. Sorry, but that's impossible to achieve perfection. Which is why we have instant replay and reviewable plays.

Very few games are REALLY lost because of a refs mistake. We didn't lose yesterday because of Crabtree's fumble, we lost because of dumb penalties, a blocked punt, letting Kaepernick run 8 yards and having 4 players miss their gaps and angles on a 51 yard run by Gore.

MY comment had very little if anything to do with the Crabtree ruling specifically though it was bullshit or yesterday's game in general. I think the officiating in the entire NFL is crap. Seldom do I watch a game where I don't shake my head at several calls. It's been poor for at least the last 20 years and remains poor in my eyes.
My answer is the same as Largent80's post: get rid of the shitty ones. Mike Carey has no business refereeing and NFL game, nor does Walt Coleman, Jeff Triplette, etc. Get some younger, more athletic men in the system. How? Freakin' pay them to a point they don't have to be 55 year old lawyers, teachers, etc. trying to officiate a game played by 20 somethings with world class athletic skills. Look man, I'm 57 and I was an athlete in my teens, 20s and 30s and let me tell you, even if I was a workout maniac I wouldn't be as physically skilled as I was in my 20s and 30s and even 40s. People slow down physically in their 50s and 60s. Secondly, increase your standards and keep at it until you have quality crews across the board. if this approach would've been taken 25 years ago, us and every other fanbase wouldn't be having this conversation nearly as often and the human factor that leads to occasional mistakes would be far more understandable because we'd see it far less often.

And ScottMojo is right when he says you lose all credibility when you align yourself Pieria. Dude's a mouthpiece for what's wrong in officiating in the NFL.

 

[brimsalabim]

Pam Oliver reported that Pete was all over the officials about it at the half.