Let´s talk expectations

[JGfromtheNW]

2013 was not even close to a rebuilding year. Weird comment.

 

[Thunderhawk]

4-12. This is one of the least talented teams in the league. Its going to be an incrediblely difficult season to watch but it will be fascinating to see how all the optimists respond to reality. We might win 7 or 8 games in 2019 and will be competitive again by 2020 if we stay the course. But this season is rock bottom.

You're an id...your post is idiotic.

Listen man, I HOPE you're right. This isn't one of those times where I want to be right. But I just feel like there is a cliff that people aren't seeing. Heck, I didn't see the cliff in 2008. And trust me dude, that team seemed to have a lot of talent on it too. I'm still a fan. Still gonna watch the games. I'm just readying myself for what I think is gonna happen.

Yeah. I think a lot of the posters here know the Seahawks very well but aren't overly familiar with the rest of the league's rosters. We are simply not very talented by comparison. The preseason reallly killed any hopes I had that 2018 Seahawks could surprise.

I see 6-10.

 

[Fade]

If Pete plays to the strength of this team--the offense (Russell, the passing game, pass to setup the run), I think we surprise a lot of teams with offensive shoot-outs. if we try to pretend we're the still the SB Seahawks and rely on the defense, we crash and burn eventually.

Spot on.

I will have a better guage on what it will look like overall after 2 games. I need to see what it looks like in the regular season to get a proper eval. of Pete and his coaching staff for this season. Due to the many changes.

 

[chris98251]

I expect the Mods to earn their money this year


I need to start a thread that Bevell has been Fired from the Unemployment line because he tried to do hard slant into the building and was intercepted by security.

 

[seahawkfreak]

4-12. This is one of the least talented teams in the league. Its going to be an incrediblely difficult season to watch but it will be fascinating to see how all the optimists respond to reality. We might win 7 or 8 games in 2019 and will be competitive again by 2020 if we stay the course. But this season is rock bottom.

You're an id...your post is idiotic.

Listen man, I HOPE you're right. This isn't one of those times where I want to be right. But I just feel like there is a cliff that people aren't seeing. Heck, I didn't see the cliff in 2008. And trust me dude, that team seemed to have a lot of talent on it too. I'm still a fan. Still gonna watch the games. I'm just readying myself for what I think is gonna happen.

Yeah. I think a lot of the posters here know the Seahawks very well but aren't overly familiar with the rest of the league's rosters. We are simply not very talented by comparison. The preseason reallly killed any hopes I had that 2018 Seahawks could surprise.

I see 6-10.

Really do not see this team loaded with scrubs. We have serious talent on this team. Our RBs are talented (stay healthy). The Griffin brothers are incredibly talented and very smart. We have KJ and the Ninja Turtle. Lot of you guys are more up than me on the DL but NAZ, Reed and QJ look pretty good to me.

The O-Line,,,, First time I think in about 4 to 5 years where I didn't want to puke about their play. Pass protection is at least somewhat credible. Run blocking, I wont say good just yet but sorry the improvement is there.

Last, I like our WRs and ST might be good again. I thought our STs turned the corner last season at the beginning but ended up once again in the toilet. I will still hitch my hopes that they will eventually be great again. Lot of good stuff there too.

Keep the hope cause it is what we have. Can't go into every season with a security blanket. In 2011, I remember thinking,,,,,,, um,, do we actually have a legitimate defense? That is what I am looking for as of right now.

 

[xray]

The Hawks MUST win at least one of the first two games which are on the road then I think 8-8 .If they lose both 6-10 season. They have a tough schedule this season. They may surprise everyone but most don't see a winning season because of lack of quality depth especially on the OL. In my opinion everything hinges on the OL again. Maybe next year.

 

[IndyHawk]

4-12. This is one of the least talented teams in the league. Its going to be an incrediblely difficult season to watch but it will be fascinating to see how all the optimists respond to reality. We might win 7 or 8 games in 2019 and will be competitive again by 2020 if we stay the course. But this season is rock bottom.

You're an id...your post is idiotic.

Listen man, I HOPE you're right. This isn't one of those times where I want to be right. But I just feel like there is a cliff that people aren't seeing. Heck, I didn't see the cliff in 2008. And trust me dude, that team seemed to have a lot of talent on it too. I'm still a fan. Still gonna watch the games. I'm just readying myself for what I think is gonna happen.

Yeah. I think a lot of the posters here know the Seahawks very well but aren't overly familiar with the rest of the league's rosters. We are simply not very talented by comparison. The preseason reallly killed any hopes I had that 2018 Seahawks could surprise.

I see 6-10.

Every team has it's weakness..I'm not sure what teams you think are so loaded
that we look real weak..
I get the Rams thought but you have to play the games before you can conclude
anything at this point.

 

[Jville]

Myopia will plague dot net once again in September. Pronouncements of gloom and doom will multiply prior to their withdraw to an insistence of "I don't recall" omissions.

We are an entertaining species.

 

[OKHawksfan]

I take the opposite view of the pre-season. Everyone seems to be overly dismayed by the record (which means jack squat). While we like to win those, this is a year when PC really need to see a lot of people doing different things. That said, when our 1s were playing we were in it or winning. When the guys that won't be on the team after today were in, we gave it up. So, barring major injury to multiple starters at the same time, I think 8-8 is the floor. I think 9-7 or 10-6 as realistic. But injury is the X factor because there are some depth issues in a couple of areas.

 

[Ruminator]

We've depended too much on our defense the last couple years. Our offense needs to get it together. My observation of Russell's performance the last couple is that his accuracy finding receivers has been frustratingly off. Thrown a bit behind, or overthrown, or underthrown, or simply missing a more open receiver elsewhere. No doubt largely due to having one of the league's worst OLs and the glaring lack of a serviceable RB that placed a greater burden on Russell's shoulders.

So talking expectations -- if OL and RB are both greatly improved this season, and both perform well all season, then that alone should help notch at least four additional wins over the number they'd otherwise get. I'll leave it at that rather than predict a W-L record.

Russell can do only so much on offense.

 

[SchadenfreudeHawk]

The year we drafted Tutupu was a rebuilding year and everyone understood that. We went to he superbowl.

The year we won the superbowl was a rebuilding year with unheard of guys like Sherman and Kam, we won the superbowl.

I would predict inconsistent performance, win a few we shouldn't lose a few we shouldn't and I would guess our record to be 8-8.

A few factors: Does Earl come back and if so does is he his usual self. Injuries? Earl and injuries could have a big effect on our record one way or another. Without Earl I think the D get's burnt in the passing game a lot. With Earl, Kam and Sherman we didn't fare too well on passing D last year so who knows?

My expectations are 8-8, but I know with this coaching staff and past tallent evaluation don't be surprised to see us go deep in the playoffs.

RE LA Rams? all the talent in the world with all the attitude in the world. wouldn't be surprised to see the wheels fall off that team and for us to get 1 or 2 wins against them this year.

Just another note on rewriting history— the 2005 season (the year we drafted Lofa) was NOT a rebuilding year. We had gone 9-7 the year before and made the playoffs for the second consecutive year. In fact, in 2004 we were considered a team on the rise. We performed better than anticipated in 2005 but it was not a rebuilding year.

 

[SchadenfreudeHawk]

You're an id...your post is idiotic.

Listen man, I HOPE you're right. This isn't one of those times where I want to be right. But I just feel like there is a cliff that people aren't seeing. Heck, I didn't see the cliff in 2008. And trust me dude, that team seemed to have a lot of talent on it too. I'm still a fan. Still gonna watch the games. I'm just readying myself for what I think is gonna happen.

Yeah. I think a lot of the posters here know the Seahawks very well but aren't overly familiar with the rest of the league's rosters. We are simply not very talented by comparison. The preseason reallly killed any hopes I had that 2018 Seahawks could surprise.

I see 6-10.

Really do not see this team loaded with scrubs. We have serious talent on this team. Our RBs are talented (stay healthy). The Griffin brothers are incredibly talented and very smart. We have KJ and the Ninja Turtle. Lot of you guys are more up than me on the DL but NAZ, Reed and QJ look pretty good to me.

The O-Line,,,, First time I think in about 4 to 5 years where I didn't want to puke about their play. Pass protection is at least somewhat credible. Run blocking, I wont say good just yet but sorry the improvement is there.

Last, I like our WRs and ST might be good again. I thought our STs turned the corner last season at the beginning but ended up once again in the toilet. I will still hitch my hopes that they will eventually be great again. Lot of good stuff there too.

Keep the hope cause it is what we have. Can't go into every season with a security blanket. In 2011, I remember thinking,,,,,,, um,, do we actually have a legitimate defense? That is what I am looking for as of right now.

If you are excited about the talent on your team based on RBs and your 4-3 linebackers than your team is in trouble. Neither of these are positions that are all that important in the modern NFL. Unless the running back is Marshawn, and all respect to our stable of back but none of them are even close to Beast Mode. Plus, Carson has never had more than a 130 carries in a season. He could possibly stay healthy but he has not done it in college or the pros. And the 2008 and 2009 Seahawks had the best 4-3 linebackers in the game. If you're a 4-3 team, having your defensive talent at the LB spot is a poor allocation of resources. Honestly, his teams starters are below average and the depth is horrendous. It's gonna be a tough year.

 

[chris98251]

I am not worried about pre season, we took this year to do a whole lot of evaluation concerning the line and the secondary, when starters were in on both sides we looked good and up and coming, last two games was heavy in looking for the RCB and we had a lot of Safety swapping going on with guys, communication would suck in these situations and yes getting burned. Same can be said for the back up QB's throwing to a lot of receivers they have not worked with under fire in different game situations.


We are evaluating the hell out of things, will really wait to see till like game 4 of the regular season to give a true feeling on this years team and going forward with so many changes.

 

[Bigpumpkin]

To me...it is pretty straight forward. If we lose the first two games on the Road, at BEST we would go 8-8. If we win the first two games.....we go 11-5 and win our Division. There is a lot of space in between or below those outcomes.

PS. I really messed up on the Oakland game....Russ did not play a minute!

 

[Russ Willstrong]

Schotty wont be so predictable with calls. The runs look improved with Carson on trap and iso plays. Our power run game will let Wilson drop dimes for 30 yds on play action.
We will also use more hb screens and wheelroutes, misdirections plays to keep defenses off balance as well.
With a young defense we can't afford to win it in the 4th quarter against good teams.
This team is young but plays with energy and emotion. I say we are a 10 win team given no injuries.

 

[hieroglyphics]

For the people concerned about the team this year, while there are clear holes, Seahawks can easily go 10-6 if the offensive efficiency improves, which we all expect.

It’s very simple, the most underrated stats are Time of Possession. Combine that with Avg. starting field position.

It’s very rare a team that finishes bottom 10 of the league in Time of Possesion makes the playoffs. We were 23rd last year, Buffalo made the playoffs despite being 3rd to last in TOS, but they also were in an easier conference and didn’t turn the ball over a lot either.

Football outsiders provides great stats on avg. length of drive on both O & D and starting field position.

We were 19th in Net LOS/dr (starting field position for O - D), and 20th in Net TOP/dr (time per drive O - D).

When you break it all down, these (along with Turnovers) are the stats that lead to most probable chance of winning (still have to be great in the red zone and have good O & D efficiency and not give up huge plays). This is why we invested so much in the run game, and in Michael Dickson. We are VERY likely to improve our Avg starting field position, and probable to improve our avg. time of possession/drive.

FYI, this is why the Patriots go to the SB year after year despite rarely having an elite defense. They control the clock and they tend to get good field position and Brady is so good that they excel when it matters.

We have an elite QB and all the elements to improve in holding onto the football more. We do these things and we’re very likely to go 9-7 at the bare minimum.

 

[KitsapGuy]

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[Seafan]

I'd be disappointed if the Hawks lose in Denver but given Pete's history it would be understandable.

Two things that give me hope is the running offense and the running defense. Another is Dickson.

Pete has not been a details guy but this off season he cleaned house and he and JS have put more emphasis on it. Schotty is the first OC that Pete has hired that is a details guy. RW has needed it and the offensive game plan has needed it and it will be interesting to see how Schotty does in terms of in game adjustments.

No doubt the defense would be better with Earl but there is nothing that can be done about it. The run defense looks satisfactory and there seems to be depth at LB that hasn't been here for a while. There are a lot of bodies at pass rusher and it will be interesting to see if a legit pass rush develops. One thing I like is Norton seems to favor blitzing. With players like Coleman, Wagner, Mingo and Shaquem that could help a struggling pass rush.

Dickson and a real running game will help the defense immeasurably. The new kickoff rules and the depth at punt returner should also help the offense.

Trading Earl is not part of management's plan. They seem to me to be setting a hard precedent. Earl has no leverage so why give him any. Trading him will only send the message for others to do the same. If he misses the first week he loses his contract guarantee not to mention he'll owe the Hawks almost $2 million of his remaining contract. Since they are not negotiating the question becomes how much does he want to lose? He's not getting younger and the market is not getting better. Hawks have all the leverage and they planned for this when they signed McDougald and drafted Thompson.

Barring injuries this is a 10-6 team, in a tough division. If Earl comes back it might be better.

 

[DJrmb]

I believe I'm looking at a 10-6 team this season (which may or may not be a playoff spot). There is still a lot of talent on this team, as far as starters are concerned. The depth is an issue and they'll need to stay pretty healthy at least at DE/Pass rush, and DB to stay in the hunt. While those areas are thin other areas that have taken this team down in the past have been bolstered and should be considered very strong going into the season (RB, DT, LB). I agree with others that I've seen say this team feels like the 2012 team. Could we possibly be just 1 year away from going back to the big one? It'll be fun to watch this year and find out...