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warden":hcsn2pin said:Dree Brees said they were different too
Well if the Niners lose by less this time just like the Saints did, I'm cool with that.
warden":hcsn2pin said:Dree Brees said they were different too
willyum":2xa998ng said:their offense put up more yards and a lot more first downs against a better Carolina defense while on the road than the Seahawks did yesterday, Seattles offense had some spark early on with Percy but after he left it was pretty disappointing. And way too many big run plays given up to the Saints, passing team, gotta shore that up.
KCHawkGirl":2h3vr8vv said:Okaay, so are we so what is his point again?
Polaris":3cgn4laq said:willyum":3cgn4laq said:their offense put up more yards and a lot more first downs against a better Carolina defense while on the road than the Seahawks did yesterday, Seattles offense had some spark early on with Percy but after he left it was pretty disappointing. And way too many big run plays given up to the Saints, passing team, gotta shore that up.
There are factors I think you may be overlooking. That game in Carolina was done under nearly perfect conditions (emphatically not true for ours) which allowed both sides to pass freely. Moreover while the Panthers defense is really really good, their secondary is really pretty average......average+ at best. The Panthers can be had with the deep pass.
I dare San Fran to try those passes against our secondary.
Danish Hawk":1qyv4d2m said:Carolina failed to contain Frank Gore who had 4,9 avg. yards. That's too much.
RolandDeschain":35sk7v8x said:When you like your first read as much as Kaepernick does, Crabtree is a key component. If our offense doesn't improve at least somewhat, we are losing this game. I feel good about our chances, but we are not spanking them again, just like we didn't spank the Saints again.
Popeyejones":j4hfmp4r said:Danish Hawk":j4hfmp4r said:Carolina failed to contain Frank Gore who had 4,9 avg. yards. That's too much.
TBF though take out that one 4th quarter run (oddly the same play --and same juke on the one-high safety-- that sealed the Hawks game at Candlestick) and for the rest of the game he averaged 2.8 ypc.
Take out those two runs and the effective game against the Falcons' awful run defense, and Gore has really struggled for over two months now (since Week 10). It's a combination of struggling in the run blocking, and Gore having just really run down at this point. He'd lost a step or two in his straight line speed in the past couple years, but that never really mattered in his game that much anyway. In the latter half of this season he has lost his lateral quickness and some of his power. Kind of sad to watch actually, as his vision and patience (which have ALWAYS been his strongest assets) are still there, but he just can't to where he's trying to go anymore. He just looks tired.
In any case, long way to say that aside from that one long run, I think Carolina did a good job containing him, and that's partially him just being in decline too. I expect the Hawks rush D to come out better than it did against the Saints, but coming out like they did against the Saints might be the 9ers only shot of really establishing the run game next week (and as we already know, Kap only runs on Green Bay).
If they're smart, they will just send Crabtree over the middle all day. Our linebackers are good in coverage overall, but they are not like Sherman & Maxwell.nategreat":2tf1x9ju said:RolandDeschain":2tf1x9ju said:When you like your first read as much as Kaepernick does, Crabtree is a key component. If our offense doesn't improve at least somewhat, we are losing this game. I feel good about our chances, but we are not spanking them again, just like we didn't spank the Saints again.
Well, if you are a one-read QB like many say Kaepernick has often times been, and your first read is covered very well throughout the game by a good secondary such as the Hawks, then it could actually be a benefit to us.
It will prolong his throws, waiting for Crabtree to get open. And if he is not open, he may just try and throw it into tight coverage anyway. We shall see.