Jermaine Kearse no play the Russell Wilson INT

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I rewatched that game and Jermaine never even reached out for that ball. He looked like he was pouting (just my impression but I could be wrong) and he could have at least tried to knock that pass down. I replayed it about 5 times and saw zero effort from the guy.

Anybody else see this?
 

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I didn't see pouting, but, IMO, he gave up immediately on the pass. And, doing so lead to an INT. It could've been deflected, IMO.

If we're right, ivotuk (when you and I agree we usually are right), I'd expect to see a little less of Kearse this Sunday.
 

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I also did not see it as pouting but more of a lack of effort. I think clearly if he knew the consequinces of letting it just go by because it was out of reach of an easy catch he would have made the effort. Hopefully, after tape review he learns a valuable lesson here.
 

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I remember the play the way you did, but I chalk it up to more of a lack of awareness / savvy. Would be silly to suggest he "gave up." This is an underrated part of Sidney Rice's game and maybe why we're sensitive to it now. He's very good at battling for potential INTs (might have saved last year's CHI game by doing this).
 

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ivotuk":27fv30x5 said:
I rewatched that game and Jermaine never even reached out for that ball. He looked like he was pouting (just my impression but I could be wrong) and he could have at least tried to knock that pass down. I replayed it about 5 times and saw zero effort from the guy.

Anybody else see this?

I saw it. The angles aren't great but it looked like he didn't even try and that he could have been in position to make a play on the ball, at least break up the INT, if not actually make a catch. I was very disappointed.
 

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ivotuk":w88gsvoh said:
I rewatched that game and Jermaine never even reached out for that ball. He looked like he was pouting (just my impression but I could be wrong) and he could have at least tried to knock that pass down. I replayed it about 5 times and saw zero effort from the guy.

Anybody else see this?
I saw a major lack of effort on that route. He was going at about 30% speed and almost looked like he was stopping his route. Should have been an easy reception and instead almost cost us the game.
 

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I saw the same thing but it depends on what angle you see it from. Russell threw the ball probably as hard as he could through a very tight window, so Kearse might not have seen it coming until it was too late. Sure looked like it was within arms reach of him, though, maybe even a catchable ball.
 

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I re-watched it several times too and initially chalked it up to bad Camera angles. It was almost like he didnt even have situational awareness at all and was just going through the motions. Someone mentioned the other day that Sherman and a few others looked ill during the game. Shermans presser had him dripping with sweat! Was there more to this than we citizens will ever know?
 

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It was a gawd awful pass. Nothing more, nothing less. 100 percent of that INT is on Wilson. He had a Schaub moment, which I understand, it was almost all on him to pull a game out of the fire.

D had his back, end of story. Kearse was probably just surprised as hell he threw it.
 

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I don't know about pouting, but I remember being pissed at chop chop for not turning into a defender as soon he realized that ball wasn't catchable.
 

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I don't know if he was expecting the ball. I wouldve liked to see a little more effort as well but who knows what the play called for
 

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wasn't a great decision or throw but it wasn't a great effort either. In the very least he should have attempted to get a fingernail on the ball at least to try to prevent it.
 
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Evil_Shenanigans":1f0njy6m said:
I re-watched it several times too and initially chalked it up to bad Camera angles. It was almost like he didnt even have situational awareness at all and was just going through the motions. Someone mentioned the other day that Sherman and a few others looked ill during the game. Shermans presser had him dripping with sweat! Was there more to this than we citizens will ever know?

I did mention that and it was wierd. I didn't see a whole lot of other people dripping sweat like that and he was doing so in the presser. Watching All Access last night they talked to Kam before the game and he was sweating so bad it looked like someone dumped water on his head.

I thought that Reliant was a climate controlled building? It didn't seem that hot in there that players on the field should be sweating like that, and if it was that hot, it would be even worse up in the seats so I just don't see that. Didn't see that kind of reaction in Carolina where it was 85-90 and high humidity.

I think a small percentage of players were sick but you know Pete will never acknowledge it because opposing teams could take advantage of it.

Hopefully if there is a bug, it doesn't spread. But one thing to "ponder," how badass is this team if some of them are ill yet we still beat Houston on the road? :D
 

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pehawk":8xpce44r said:
I didn't see pouting, but, IMO, he gave up immediately on the pass. And, doing so lead to an INT. It could've been deflected, IMO.

I'd expect to see a little less of Kearse this Sunday.

I disagree. I think he's a guy we should see more of. The guy has had 5 targets in 4 games to the tune of 90 yards and 2 TDS and caught 4 of the 5 targets. Of course I'm counting the OPI called against him which I thought was pretty soft.

Kearse is dynamic and we need to get him the ball more IMO.
 

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lukerguy":3jstl9nh said:
pehawk":3jstl9nh said:
I didn't see pouting, but, IMO, he gave up immediately on the pass. And, doing so lead to an INT. It could've been deflected, IMO.

I'd expect to see a little less of Kearse this Sunday.

I disagree. I think he's a guy we should see more of. The guy has had 5 targets in 4 games to the tune of 90 yards and 2 TDS and caught 4 of the 5 targets. Of course I'm counting the OPI called against him which I thought was pretty soft.

Kearse is dynamic and we need to get him the ball more IMO.

Probably true, but your QB is going to have a hard time having confidence in you if you stop playing just because the ball isn't thrown perfectly. I'm really hoping the play in question is just a one off WTF moment because I really like Kearse*, but Kearse clearly hung Russ out to dry on that one...



*post Lasik that is, pre lasik I thought he sucked monkey butts
 

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Scottemojo":rn8rzf97 said:
It was a gawd awful pass. Nothing more, nothing less. 100 percent of that INT is on Wilson. He had a Schaub moment, which I understand, it was almost all on him to pull a game out of the fire.

D had his back, end of story. Kearse was probably just surprised as hell he threw it.

I remembered it just being just a terrible pass as well. Going off memory, I don't even remember Kearse being in all that great of position to break up the pick. Like you said, I think he was surprised the ball was even thrown. It wasn't just a bad decision and bad throw, but the ball got to the DB very quickly too. Hard to react in a situation like that.
 

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I'll add a vote for a poor effort that could have also been lack of focus.
 
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kearly":2ne5gari said:
Scottemojo":2ne5gari said:
It was a gawd awful pass. Nothing more, nothing less. 100 percent of that INT is on Wilson. He had a Schaub moment, which I understand, it was almost all on him to pull a game out of the fire.

D had his back, end of story. Kearse was probably just surprised as hell he threw it.

I remembered it just being just a terrible pass as well. Going off memory, I don't even remember Kearse being in all that great of position to break up the pick. Like you said, I think he was surprised the ball was even thrown. It wasn't just a bad decision and bad throw, but the ball got to the DB very quickly too. Hard to react in a situation like that.

Didn't see that at all. Poorly advised throw? Sure, but Kearse has shown great hands before. But this is the NFL, "not expecting the ball" is inexcusable. The DB reacted just fine, and he was playing Kearse. But Kearse made zero attempt to catch the ball, let alone try to defend his QB.

I watched that play 5 or 6 times and as close as Kearse and the DB were to each other it is hard to see how one guy can basically fair catch the ball but the other guy can't be bothered to make an attempt for it. His QB is getting pounded all day long, the other players on offense need to step up. Jermaine had his hand on the guy as soon as he caught the ball and tackled him, so i don't see how anyone could say Kearse has no culpability in the play.

Kearse did some good things that day but it only takes one bad play leading to a turn over that could lose the game for you. To me, that was the kind of lack of concentration that had plagued Jermaine through out his career. Fortunately, the defense "bowed up" and complemented the offense so in the end it was nothing more a learning tool but i was still disappointed.

Don't get me wrong, Kearse has great potential but if that play was what it looked like, when it comes to cuts in the future, he might be on the block.
 

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It was a bad throw, and maybe a bad decision too, but it was also bad effort on Kearse's part. He ran a lazy route. Maybe he didn't expect the ball but he should have been ready for it anyway. IMO.
 

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Tough game this week, but it would be nice not to have to worry about a single play determining the outcome. I think Kearse is still learning and will come around. He's already made some great plays for the team, so I'm willing to cut him some slack. How about we just go ahead and jump out to an early lead and hold it?
 
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