canfan":3mha6xkf said:
Spin Doctor":3mha6xkf said:
MeanBlueGreen":3mha6xkf said:
Spin Doctor":3mha6xkf said:
This may sound like sacrilege to many to the 9th degree, but it has been a question that has been nagging at the back of my mind for awhile. Wilson is going to due a huge pay day soon somewhere in the range of 120 million dollars. He is going to be one of the best, if not the best paid Quarterback in the NFL. This means the roster is going to have to undergo a serious makeover. No longer can we have big free agent acquisitions, this contract will certainly mean letting go of a few contributors on our team at this moment. We won the superbowl last year largely to a team that was good in all phases of the game. We can no longer count on that to be the case in the future, as we're already starting to see this season.
In lieu of the looming future the question I'm asking myself is: Can Wilson carry the team, can he be that elite QB that can carry the team on his back. If we re-sign him Wilson is going to have to shoulder a much larger burden, as it is going to cost the team in a few extra areas.
Russell Wilson is a good Quarterback, certainly better than the washed up Hasselbeck, the Flynns, TJs, and Whitehursts of this world. I have my doubts though as to whether he can transcend his point guard Quarterback status.
No, we should dump that loser and resign Hasselbeck for pennies on the dollar.
Matt is Maaaannn!
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I would take Hasselbeck in his prime over Russell Wilson, no joke. Hasselbeck was truly elite in 2007. He had no running game, a terrible O-Line, and mediocre receivers yet he was virtually unstoppable.
I loved Hasselbeck, and I miss the tempo that those Holmgren teams played with, but you missed one person that could always defeat Matt......himself. He was always good for a critical turnover at the absolute worst time in the game. Sorry, man. I'll take Wilson in a heartbeat. He is still learning the game and is likely a couple of years away yet from his prime. Try comparing Wilson to a circa 2002 Hasselbeck and let me know what your answer would be then.
Matt used the pocket to pass from, Wilson doesn't, not in advanced routes anyway.
Wilson WILL throw from the pocket when he sees something right off the bat, or in a deep drop pocket, but as far as stepping up in the pocket and going through reads and using his Line to buy time, that isn't his game. He doesn't like it among the trees and neither would any other 5'11 QB.
Wilson could take to what Brees does, but he hasn't shown any flashes of those step up in the pocket passes that Brees delivers.
Also-
A QB helps out his line as much as a the Line helps out a QB.
Offensive lineman are in this league because they are big boys who can direct a rusher most of the time in one direction IF they know where the QB is going to be. This is why even though a defender knows where Manning or Brady is going to be they can still buy time with a simple slide step, or subtle movements inside the pocket. That is Brady helping his Linemen out...
Wilson has almost ZERO of the presence, very little.
What Wilson does have is amazing athleticism, extreme intelligence on the move, ability to throw on the move and the ability to get out quick passes on simple reads right away from the pocket with good footwork.
Wilson uses his legs to get him time, not by stepping up or slide stepping in the pocket. He is at the bottom of the league in using the pocket to step up and throw the ball, he almost never does it in close quarters in fact.
This leads to other problems as mentioned before, like making your Oline look bad, since Wilson could be anywhere at anytime, where is a Lineman supposed to direct the rushing traffic? The DE's in the NFL are way to talented to be blocked in more than direction at a time. This is why unless Wilson learns the pocket slide, we will always have what appears to be a subpar line.
Example-
Okung can direct a DE upfield and around Wilson IF he stays in the pocket. If Wilson is bailing back in the pocket or scrambling out of the pocket, then he is literally on his own for the most part. You cannot expect a Tackle to hang with a DE in this league once the QB is scrambling in an unplanned direction. Wilson is great at avoiding the pressure yes, but how long before he loses that step? How long before Lynch finally goes to pasture? Will Wilson all of the sudden be able to throw from the trees and learn the subtle tricks of a pure pocket passer?
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