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bighawk":3vq9es56 said:
This just shows how important Britt really is. As well as Bennett is to our defense(pay the man)
. The secondary can't take risks without him because he gets quick penetration. Britt makes great calls in protection. Also they should have kept P. Lewis as the backup.
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Agreed. I actually have not seen an issue from our OLine the past few games, because I think Britt has really taken the Center role by storm. I don't think Joey Hunt is bad, he's just a rookie with no experience. He'll be fine 2 or so years down the road. But Britt is kinda the straw that stirs the drink.

Bradley Sowell is ass. My goodness he was terrible.

Also, I think we need to give Tampa's DLine some credit. They came out like mad men.
 

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RolandDeschain":15pc0f3s said:
Our O-line is sucking horrifically all game, let's not bother to adjust to a consistently quick passing game to nullify it, or anything.

I'm starting to blame Pete almost as much as Bevell for the stupidity on offense. Our defense had a fantastic day overall and the offense still can't do crap. I love the Bevell supporters. If our offensive coordinator was as good as they claim, the offense would have had no issue amassing a whopping 15 points or more for us to win the game. I mean, Jesus Christ, the 49ers average more points on offense per game than the Seahawks do.

But no, we need make no chances on offense aside from the O-line. That's the only real problem; right, Bevell supporters? A quote from Dodgeball comes to mind whenever I see our offense getting things thrown at them that they can't handle and we don't try to adjust to it... "It's like watching a ****** trying to hump a doorknob." If you want something more G-rated, then it's like trying to fit a round peg into a square hole.

The only way to keep Russell alive is to have him get rid of the ball quickly on a consistent basis. Our O-line's not magically going to become good in the remainder of the season. :229031_banghead:

P.S., Bevell supporters; our defense regularly carries us to a win. How often does our offense exceed even LEAGUE AVERAGE scoring? You guys forget just how much an elite defense helps an offense, but still, you support him. If we transplanted the Falcons offense into the Seahawks, the offense would be averaging like 40 points per game.

Open your eyes. Where do you think this team would be if the defense was even a league-average one? Not bad, just AVERAGE. We'd have a losing record right now.


Bevell is not elite but much of this not his fault. The O-line is tragically bad. Not much you can do about that with play calls. Anything called gets blown up. No runs not time to throw. What do you do.

Also we take an elite offense and we short the defense somewhere. A little thing called salary cap. Sacrifices have to be made somewhere. Our Front office decided it was the o-line to sacrifice. We are 7-3-1 with all told. NOt necessarily a bad formula but frustrating.
 

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RolandDeschain":3d77msbt said:
Our O-line is sucking horrifically all game, let's not bother to adjust to a consistently quick passing game to nullify it, or anything.

I'm starting to blame Pete almost as much as Bevell for the stupidity on offense. Our defense had a fantastic day overall and the offense still can't do crap. I love the Bevell supporters. If our offensive coordinator was as good as they claim, the offense would have had no issue amassing a whopping 15 points or more for us to win the game. I mean, Jesus Christ, the 49ers average more points on offense per game than the Seahawks do.

But no, we need make no chances on offense aside from the O-line. That's the only real problem; right, Bevell supporters? A quote from Dodgeball comes to mind whenever I see our offense getting things thrown at them that they can't handle and we don't try to adjust to it... "It's like watching a ****** trying to hump a doorknob." If you want something more G-rated, then it's like trying to fit a round peg into a square hole.

The only way to keep Russell alive is to have him get rid of the ball quickly on a consistent basis. Our O-line's not magically going to become good in the remainder of the season. :229031_banghead:

P.S., Bevell supporters; our defense regularly carries us to a win. How often does our offense exceed even LEAGUE AVERAGE scoring? You guys forget just how much an elite defense helps an offense, but still, you support him. If we transplanted the Falcons offense into the Seahawks, the offense would be averaging like 40 points per game.

Open your eyes. Where do you think this team would be if the defense was even a league-average one? Not bad, just AVERAGE. We'd have a losing record right now.

Great post, my thoughts exactly.

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BirdsCommaAngry":ro07iwrx said:
FlyingGreg":ro07iwrx said:
DVOA wins games!

No, DVOA relates to a greater tendency for winning games. DVOA is simply a model of analysis dealing in generalities (I.E. predicting trends over time rather than specific situations, such as an individual football game) that works best when injuries are minimal (I.E. not the Seahawks today). Life is too chaotic and complex to be entirely predicted by current mathematical models and other forms of computation.

Wait, are we talking about life or football? One has more variables than the other, right?
 

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Year of The Hawk":1wwt3dtb said:
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why bevel wasn't fired during the first quarter today. They could have saved the airfare from flying him back. Just leave his sorry ass in Florida.


What did Bevell and Cable do wrong? Our guys could not block anything the whole game. No game plan could fix that.

Communicating quick passing could fix that but he's not good at adjusting and is just an average offensive coordinator.
 

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Year of The Hawk":36rwazt7 said:
Not much you can do about that with play calls. Anything called gets blown up. No runs not time to throw. What do you do.
Quick-strike passing game. Not that it's some magical cure-all or anything, but if we had tried to run one all game do you REALLY think we wouldn't have scored more? This isn't some "hindsight is 20/20" thing, either.
 

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RolandDeschain":30tflhyb said:
Our O-line is sucking horrifically all game, let's not bother to adjust to a consistently quick passing game to nullify it, or anything.

I'm starting to blame Pete almost as much as Bevell for the stupidity on offense. Our defense had a fantastic day overall and the offense still can't do crap. I love the Bevell supporters. If our offensive coordinator was as good as they claim, the offense would have had no issue amassing a whopping 15 points or more for us to win the game. I mean, Jesus Christ, the 49ers average more points on offense per game than the Seahawks do.

But no, we need make no chances on offense aside from the O-line. That's the only real problem; right, Bevell supporters? A quote from Dodgeball comes to mind whenever I see our offense getting things thrown at them that they can't handle and we don't try to adjust to it... "It's like watching a ****** trying to hump a doorknob." If you want something more G-rated, then it's like trying to fit a round peg into a square hole.

The only way to keep Russell alive is to have him get rid of the ball quickly on a consistent basis. Our O-line's not magically going to become good in the remainder of the season. :229031_banghead:

P.S., Bevell supporters; our defense regularly carries us to a win. How often does our offense exceed even LEAGUE AVERAGE scoring? You guys forget just how much an elite defense helps an offense, but still, you support him. If we transplanted the Falcons offense into the Seahawks, the offense would be averaging like 40 points per game.

Open your eyes. Where do you think this team would be if the defense was even a league-average one? Not bad, just AVERAGE. We'd have a losing record right now.

And who do you replace Bevell with? Please tell.
 

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Russell Wilson acknowledged that he needs to get rid of the ball quicker in the press conferences, I think we should stop assuming the line is just going to fix itself and have a plan for when the o-line is playing well and when it isn't. Being able to adjust SHOULDN'T be this difficult. I mean seriously... TRY something.
 

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seahawkfreak":e7hazy1n said:
BirdsCommaAngry":e7hazy1n said:
FlyingGreg":e7hazy1n said:
DVOA wins games!

No, DVOA relates to a greater tendency for winning games. DVOA is simply a model of analysis dealing in generalities (I.E. predicting trends over time rather than specific situations, such as an individual football game) that works best when injuries are minimal (I.E. not the Seahawks today). Life is too chaotic and complex to be entirely predicted by current mathematical models and other forms of computation.

Wait, are we talking about life or football? One has more variables than the other, right?

Well, football is a part of life. Whenever we talk about one, we're at least indirectly discussing part of the other.
 

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Blame for everyone like a freaking oprah show.

Bevell gets his for sure. I'm a hater but today was just such a failure on everybody, i can't even hate.
 

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Optimus25":3knxcy6f said:
Blame for everyone like a freaking oprah show.

Bevell gets his for sure. I'm a hater but today was just such a failure on everybody, i can't even hate.

To be fair it was a pretty awful game.

I was there. :34853_doh:
 

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Hasselbeck":g2obwql4 said:
And who do you replace Bevell with? Please tell.
This is a pointless question that, frankly, leads nowhere. Pete's good at finding talent and he's extremely loyal; to a fault, in some cases.
 

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NFSeahawks628":3b9s6dju said:
Russell Wilson acknowledged that he needs to get rid of the ball quicker in the press conferences, I think we should stop assuming the line is just going to fix itself and have a plan for when the o-line is playing well and when it isn't. Being able to adjust SHOULDN'T be this difficult. I mean seriously... TRY something.

Russell doesn't throw his players under the bus. He didn't really have a whole lot of time in the first place. The protection broke down extremely fast.
 

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GLio14":37rdleap said:
NFSeahawks628":37rdleap said:
Russell Wilson acknowledged that he needs to get rid of the ball quicker in the press conferences, I think we should stop assuming the line is just going to fix itself and have a plan for when the o-line is playing well and when it isn't. Being able to adjust SHOULDN'T be this difficult. I mean seriously... TRY something.

Russell doesn't throw his players under the bus. He didn't really have a whole lot of time in the first place. The protection broke down extremely fast.

His comment wasn't about throwing his players under the bus, there was no reason to. He played perhaps the worst game of his career, and held the ball too long, thats why he made the comment of getting the ball our quicker or having quick passing plays. Sure the offensive line was bad but it is also about him playing better. I've never seen him throw late to receivers twice like that in a game. It was just uncharacteristic of him.

To be fair I know the time he has in the pocket and his performance sometimes do go hand in hand.

I thought Britt looked fine before the game.

He seemed somewhat irritated in the press conference and that is usually when he gives his generic answers.
 

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Year of The Hawk":1ywq88j4 said:
RolandDeschain":1ywq88j4 said:
Our O-line is sucking horrifically all game, let's not bother to adjust to a consistently quick passing game to nullify it, or anything.

I'm starting to blame Pete almost as much as Bevell for the stupidity on offense. Our defense had a fantastic day overall and the offense still can't do crap. I love the Bevell supporters. If our offensive coordinator was as good as they claim, the offense would have had no issue amassing a whopping 15 points or more for us to win the game. I mean, Jesus Christ, the 49ers average more points on offense per game than the Seahawks do.

But no, we need make no chances on offense aside from the O-line. That's the only real problem; right, Bevell supporters? A quote from Dodgeball comes to mind whenever I see our offense getting things thrown at them that they can't handle and we don't try to adjust to it... "It's like watching a ****** trying to hump a doorknob." If you want something more G-rated, then it's like trying to fit a round peg into a square hole.

The only way to keep Russell alive is to have him get rid of the ball quickly on a consistent basis. Our O-line's not magically going to become good in the remainder of the season. :229031_banghead:

P.S., Bevell supporters; our defense regularly carries us to a win. How often does our offense exceed even LEAGUE AVERAGE scoring? You guys forget just how much an elite defense helps an offense, but still, you support him. If we transplanted the Falcons offense into the Seahawks, the offense would be averaging like 40 points per game.

Open your eyes. Where do you think this team would be if the defense was even a league-average one? Not bad, just AVERAGE. We'd have a losing record right now.


Bevell is not elite but much of this not his fault. The O-line is tragically bad. Not much you can do about that with play calls. Anything called gets blown up. No runs not time to throw. What do you do.

Also we take an elite offense and we short the defense somewhere. A little thing called salary cap. Sacrifices have to be made somewhere. Our Front office decided it was the o-line to sacrifice. We are 7-3-1 with all told. NOt necessarily a bad formula but frustrating.

He and Cable are Co OC's they use the Zone blocking scheme because that's what Cable knows and what Gibbs used and it's what Pete likes to use. It's a Scheme that if the Lineman are inexperienced or not physically suited for is notorious for getting QB's killed, were in the QB getting Killed stage. That's my biggest peeve, we have a system that needs experience and knowledge yet can't keep lineman healthy and around long enough to take advantage of them once they learn it.
 

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For the Bevel is great crowd..... We have more talent than most teams on the offensive side of the ball. Wilson, Graham, Rawls, Baldwin, Lockett etc. There are teams avg more points that don't have a single player on offense better then Any of the guys I listed. Not one. At some point it's reasonable to wonder why we don't do more with that much talent. Bevel at least has some of that blame.
 

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For the Bevel is great crowd..... We have more talent than most teams on the offensive side of the ball. Wilson, Graham, Rawls, Baldwin, Lockett etc. There are teams avg more points that don't have a single player on offense better then Any of the guys I listed. Not one. At some point it's reasonable to wonder why we don't do more with that much talent. Bevel at least has some of that blame.


Bingo.....
 

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I've decided to read threads today from the bottom up since most of the people posting are standing on their heads.

I can't blame Bevell for that O-Line, and I couldn't blame him for not having an answer for his QB playing like a bad college QB either.

So, with all of that what I don't understand is why we didn't come out after the 2nd half kick off and run the ball right at them.
 

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austinslater25":334ceqcr said:
For the Bevel is great crowd..... We have more talent than most teams on the offensive side of the ball. Wilson, Graham, Rawls, Baldwin, Lockett etc. There are teams avg more points that don't have a single player on offense better then Any of the guys I listed. Not one. At some point it's reasonable to wonder why we don't do more with that much talent. Bevel at least has some of that blame.

I don't see anyone saying Bevell is great. I do see some trying to be reasonable and consider that there are other factors that affect the way a game goes than just play calling.

One of the best ways to slow down an over aggressive defense is well executed screen plays. The key there being well executed. We didn't execute anything well on offense all game.

If you have to point the finger at one person it should be firmly pointed at Wilson. He was horrible all game long. Should have thrown 4 Int's and his timing and ball placement were absolutely the worst I can remember from him.

Personally I look at this game as just a bad game. All around. No one on offense is without blame including Bevell but when an offense is executing the way we were in this game there is no way to tell if the play calling had any affect at all. If they switch up to a high tempo passing game does Wilson just throw more Int's? We would be blaming Bevell for that too.

I can't say how Bevell really did today because our offensive personnel were atrocious all game long. If you can't execute there is no game plan that will compensate for that.
 

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austinslater25":k6e49cve said:
For the Bevel is great crowd.....


What crowd?

I'll say it again Austin -- not wanting DB fired and offering a counter to some of the relentless bilge on this forum about him is a lot different to saying 'Bevell is great'.

I don't know why people struggle with this so much.
 

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