How Good/Bad is our WR Core?

[skater18000]

While everyone wants a new receiver, I kinda don't, because I hate to take any targets away from Sidney Rice and Golden Tate, as their prodution seems to lead to our teams success. Voting on my own poll, I would have to vote 9. Do people miss what Tate did this year? Also loved what Sidney and DBfresh gave us.

Key 4 Poll

1 - 4 (Worst Group In the Leauge; need many upgrades. Bad enough to hold back the team from bigger/better things; need to spend at lease a first round pick on a WR) :34853_doh:

5 - 6 (good enough to win with a running team and a defense; cant count on them to make the big plays on key passing drives)

7 - 8 (While our WR's are really good, since we are good at most area's now, why don't we add a playmaker for Russell Wilson. We all saw that pro bowl; This team could flourish by adding another threat)

9 - 10 (As much as I'd like to have one of the best WR Cores, I don't think it is very important to go out and get another WR... Why take away from Sidney Rice and Golden Tate, Who already don't get the ball enough, but do great thngs when they do get the ball thrown their way; The Team already has the WR's, it's only a matter of time before the season starts, for our pasing attacks to be one of the best behind RW)

 

[bestfightstory]

What a curious rating system.

why not just go:

1
2
3
4




?

 

[Recon_Hawk]

I feel like y ou're missing an option between 5-6 & 7-8.

Something for those who think this WR group can be counted on to make big plays in key situations and that a Pro Bowl caliber weapon isn't necessary (just needs depth).

EDIT- shit, never mind. I guess that's what 9-10 is. weird rating system.

 

[BirdsCommaAngry]

These guys rank highly in every statistical effort to measure their efficiency. We're well off but not well off enough to ignore getting deeper and/or grabbing any WR gracious enough to slip by the teams drafting ahead of us.

 

[AgentDib]

The explanation for your highest possible rating category seems to include the notion that they aren't the "best WR cores." You are clearly mixing two different concepts together at once; a) how good is our group and b) how important is it that they are good. I realize that is because you are giving your own opinion, but it results in a very silly poll.

The basic issue is determining where our WR group ranks in the league (1-32). How many WR groups are we clearly worse than? How many WR groups are we clearly better than? The interesting followup is looking at how teams rank compared to how many resources (high draft picks, salary) they have spent on their receivers. Rice hurts us a bit on the value front, but I think we would still be borderline top 10 with Baldwin and Tate.

 

[Throwdown]

I think a lot of you are reading too much into what happened at the Pro Bowl. The receiving core good enough, there were still a lot of times where Russell extended the play for a pretty good amount of time and still had to throw away the ball, so I don't think they're anywhere near elite, but they do make plays when they need to so they aren't a complete disaster.

 

[Scottemojo]

I am not going to give it a number. Our group lacks three things. Depth, particularly that 4 and 5 guy, and it lacks the speed that makes safeties cheat, and it lacks the size that makes cornerbacks cheat.

It is a decent group, it could be a lot worse. I am not going to give it some number grade.

 

[hawker84]

agreed.. good solid core.. but we could use dept, someone who will stretch the field, and we need them to start getting seperation, so when Russ does extend plays he can find someone and not the sidelines...

 

[JSeahawks]

They're good. They're solid. They're professional. But they're not dynamic. I want at least 1 WR who is truly dynamic.

 

[kidhawk]

Part of the process is consistency. As Baldwin said in a video posted on here from Youtube, the receivers spent a lot of time last year getting in sync with what Wilson wants them to do after the play breaks down. This is something that is less about route running, and more about being in sync between the qb and receivers. New receivers will take time to get in this type of sync, whereas our current receivers will have an entire offseason to improve theirs.

I'm not saying I wouldn't take a premier receiver if we can get one, I just think it's lower on the priority list than D-Line and LB.

 

[jlwaters1]

I agree with what Scotte said. Depth is the primary concern. Considering that all of the WR's play-- You say Martin, and Kearse in each game. Our top 3 guys are great-- Rice, Tate, and Baldwin. It's just the 4-6 spots are just guys. They offer very little in the way of a threat.

I'd hope to see 2 WR's drafted this year, because they will player regardless if they start or not and it would be great to be able to give Rice/Tate a breather.

 

[SalishHawkFan]

I didn't even read what the OP's numbers stood for. I thought they were rating from 1-10 basically, like rating a woman. I gave the crew a 7-8. had nothing to do with the strange meanings the OP gave those ratings. And I agree with the other poster, why not 1-4?

 

[scutterhawk]

Wilson makes just a few less over throws,or finds Sidney Rice and our Receivers look stellar.
2012 was the great experiment, these guys will have their first real off-Season to work out their timing and such.
I'm not saying that we don't need to bring in another Receiver with great speed to help stretch the field ,I'm just saying that most of our Receivers are going to have better numbers when Wilson has just a couple more seconds to make reads, set his feet, and dial back on his over throws.

 

[DavidSeven]

Depth is definitely the issue. The top three receivers have talent and what appears to be great work ethic. We're solid at the position when the top three are healthy, but if one goes down, it starts to look pretty rough. The team definitely doesn't want to be in that spot next year.

Braylon Edwards showed some promise as a depth piece, but he couldn't get healthy and his hands were still an issue. I think we can find something better in this year's draft and maybe another good value pick-up in FA.

 

[CANHawk]

Starters are fine. Rice, Tate and Baldwin are bordering on really good to possibly great even, but we really need to upgrade over Deon Butler, Charly Martin and Jermaine Kerse. We need to have the insurance against injuries if we plan on making a good deep run.

Rice has his injury history (I won't go so far as to call him fragile, but you also can't deny the history) and the way Tate and Baldwin play anything could happen to either one of them. It'd be nice to have one or two good solid depth guys behind them, and by all accounts (most important one being JS himself) this draft is pretty deep at WR. I think we'll be able to find what we need in the 4th and beyond. It's not a position group that requires a big investment at this point in time IMO.

 

[Schadie001]

Part of the process is consistency. As Baldwin said in a video posted on here from Youtube, the receivers spent a lot of time last year getting in sync with what Wilson wants them to do after the play breaks down. This is something that is less about route running, and more about being in sync between the qb and receivers. New receivers will take time to get in this type of sync, whereas our current receivers will have an entire offseason to improve theirs.

I'm not saying I wouldn't take a premier receiver if we can get one, I just think it's lower on the priority list than D-Line and LB.

Amen...agree 1000%.

 

[kearly]

I voted 7-8, assuming that you are talking about the top 3.

After that, it's a carousel. That's not to say that Obomanu doesn't have value, or that Kearse couldn't become a future asset, or that Stephen Williams won't justify how geeked John Schneider was to get him.

Sometimes, an injury to a starter can be a blessing in disguise when depth is quite strong. For example, an injury to Trufant opened a door for Walter Thurmond, and his injury opened a door for eventual all-pro Richard Sherman. Having great depth makes injuries a potentially good development instead of a devastating one.

Right now, our backups at WR are a longshot to produce that kind of situation. It's much more likely that an injury to Rice/Tate/Baldwin would hurt the team, and it might hurt the team a lot. But grab Courtney Gardner and/or Cobi Hamilton in the middle rounds, and suddenly the upside in the reserves goes from hoping for the best to hoping for opportunity.

 

[MontanaHawk05]

While everyone wants a new receiver, I kinda don't, because I hate to take any targets away from Sidney Rice and Golden Tate, as their prodution seems to lead to our teams success.

I would say this is more of the John Carlson effect - receivers soaking up a lot of production, not because they're good, but because there's nowhere else for Wilson to go. They're making a lot of catches thanks to Wilson's accuracy (and certainly their own talent and effort), but they're also forcing him into quite a few scrambles when they don't get open quickly. I also put some of that at Bevell's feet, and perhaps Pete Carroll's - they seem greedy for the big play and very reluctant to diversify the passing attack.

 

[travlinhawk]

Voted 7-8 primarily for depth as others have explained much better than I. I have no problems with Rice, Tate and Baldwin I just think we need to add some top talent to compete if one of the three should go down.

 

[Sgt. Largent]

Rice is our only receiver that I'd consider an above average NFL WR.

IMO as a whole our WR corp is below average, and in desperate need of another playmaker and depth. Wilson made a hell of a lot of plays himself, which glossed over the fact that him scrambling around was mainly due to no one being open.