Harvin - "ailing hip"....(labrum)

[SoHo9erFan]

Depends on how torn it is. A slight tear will be fine with therapy. Just have him run a handful of snaps in the pre-season to get a smidge of gametime with the offense and don't let him return a kickoff until the regular season.

I really am sad that Leon Washington just isn't a good runner out of the backfield anymore and that we couldn't justify holding onto him because having him waiting in the wings would make this a ton easier. Of course, with Michael and Ware being drafted, he STILL might not make this team even if he was a better conventional runner.

Turbin kind of reminds me of Washington. Obviously he is a better RB, but they both seem to have the same mold. Could he do it?

 

[SoHo9erFan]

Sports Certified Physical Therapist's perspective here: a turn labrum in the hip can mean almost nothing, or it could be really bad. For those that don't know, the labrum is a ring of connective tissue that goes around the outside of the entire socket to help deepen the socket and provide more stability to the joint. The labrum can be torn at any point in that ring but the location of the tear (i.e. the o'clock vs nine o'clock position) and the size of the tear are what's important.

We will likely never know those specifics. If a tear is small enough, or in some locations then it just means he plays through some discomfort. If the tear is in other locations, or if it's big enough then surgery is required because of the lack of stability in the hip joint that occurs. Without surgical repair the tear could get bigger, or other secondary injuries could occur because of new sloppy mechanics in the joint.

Considering he was playing at full speed very recently and had a complaint of some hip discomfort during OTAs my best guess is that this is not something that will require surgery. I wouldn't be shocked if he doesn't see the practice field until 2-3 weeks from now if the hip is already inflamed. Note: I have nothing to base that on other than his recent timeline and my educated speculation.

Hopefully I'm correct.

Thanks for the insight and perspective. Like you, I can only make an educated guess, but I suspect the odds of Harvin getting surgery soon are less than 50%. If this is a serious enough problem to warrant surgery, then I think it's pretty likely that Harvin would have brought the subject up in June when he first felt discomfort. Also, Carroll is known for having players play through pain and minor injuries. He's not reckless, but he does like to take chances with borderline injury situations- particularly for good starters. Avril, Bennett, Miller, Red Bryant (in 2012) and Tjack (in 2011) are examples of that.

Am i missing something here? When has Pete had prior experience with the players bolded?

 

[Smelly McUgly]

Depends on how torn it is. A slight tear will be fine with therapy. Just have him run a handful of snaps in the pre-season to get a smidge of gametime with the offense and don't let him return a kickoff until the regular season.

I really am sad that Leon Washington just isn't a good runner out of the backfield anymore and that we couldn't justify holding onto him because having him waiting in the wings would make this a ton easier. Of course, with Michael and Ware being drafted, he STILL might not make this team even if he was a better conventional runner.

Turbin kind of reminds me of Washington. Obviously he is a better RB, but they both seem to have the same mold. Could he do it?

Turbin doesn't have the cutback ability or vision, I don't think. They want Christine Michael to give KR/PR duty a whirl, and I bet he gets a lot of touches that way this year sharing some of those duties with Harvin. Michael did some PR work as a frosh at A&M if I am not mistaken.

 

[davidonmi]

I saw earl KR, pls no, we need him at S

 

[HAWKFaninBAMA]

What are we worried about people? We're we not good enough without him last year? This is just a small bump in the road to the superbowl, it's way too early to start freaking out about something w know so little about....

 

[davidonmi]

This team proved they can make the playoffs without him, let's do surgery and get him healthy for the playoffs

 

[SoulfishHawk]

They won one playoff game. A guy like this flat out can make the difference. Not the end of the world, but to just not be worried at all, can't do it.

 

[Shadowhawk]

Wondering though...

If given the option, would you rather Harvin decide to go ahead with surgery if it means that he would be available prior to the post-season, or would some of you rather him elect to not have surgery at all and take the chance of him injuring it further which would result in him missing the remainder of the season from that point?

There are disadvantages to both scenarios, but given that defenders will no doubt target that hip if he doesn't elect surgery, choosing to have the surgery now would possibly be in his and your teams best interest.

I'm sure the fact that San Francisco has to play in Seattle on September 15 has no bearing on your opinion, right?

 

[SoHo9erFan]

Depends on how torn it is. A slight tear will be fine with therapy. Just have him run a handful of snaps in the pre-season to get a smidge of gametime with the offense and don't let him return a kickoff until the regular season.

I really am sad that Leon Washington just isn't a good runner out of the backfield anymore and that we couldn't justify holding onto him because having him waiting in the wings would make this a ton easier. Of course, with Michael and Ware being drafted, he STILL might not make this team even if he was a better conventional runner.

Turbin kind of reminds me of Washington. Obviously he is a better RB, but they both seem to have the same mold. Could he do it?

Turbin doesn't have the cutback ability or vision, I don't think. They want Christine Michael to give KR/PR duty a whirl, and I bet he gets a lot of touches that way this year sharing some of those duties with Harvin. Michael did some PR work as a frosh at A&M if I am not mistaken.

Won't Michael solidify himself as the #2 back behind Lynch? I was under that impression when he was drafted, and, if that's the case, then I figured it would be safer to put Turbin back there to get touches. But hey, if Michael has experience then that would definitely make sense to put him out there.

 

[SoHo9erFan]

They won one playoff game. A guy like this flat out can make the difference. Not the end of the world, but to just not be worried at all, can't do it.

He'll be back by the playoffs regardless.

 

[TheRealDTM]

We all deserve this for not listening to Vikings fans. Sure would love to have 10m in cap space, a 3rd round pick and Cordalle Patterson right about now.

OMG!! Your so right! We should have called the seahawks up and told them the vikings fans said it was a bad trade for us and to not do it!!

That's not what I mean, I mean right after we traded for him when every viking fan was saying "he's your headache now" and we said "But he's a hawk now, vikings just suck. Going to be smooth sailing."

It's like... karma man...

 

[Bigpumpkin]

Even odds that he will play against the Panthers. :179422:

 

[Steve2222]

They won one playoff game. A guy like this flat out can make the difference. Not the end of the world, but to just not be worried at all, can't do it.

Well our offense certainly wasn't the case of us losing to Atlanta. I'm more concerned with our lack of pass rush than I am on anything to do with our offense.

 

[lukerguy]

OMG the world is fallling apart...

One of my favourite lessons from PC is .."reserve judgement". Just wait and see.

 

[Laloosh]

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[Floridahawk79]

I'm on the side of not being worried. Athletes such as him (sprinters) are in tune with their body and when they feel something they put the brakes on compared to a lineman for example who will continue on through the pain.
He'll be ready.

 

[Scottemojo]

If Pete says it's nothing, The guy is day to day.
If Pete says it bears watching, he isn't playing this week.
If Pete says he is out a week, he is out a month.
If Pete says he is out a few weeks, he is headed to IR.
If Pete says the injury looked really bad, he is dead.

 

[Hawknballs]

From Saturday:

"Percy Harvin ‏@Percy_Harvin 20 Jul
Started my engine ( my legs/ body) past few days to make sue everything running. everything checked out and gas on full ... Ready for camp"

so somehow between saturday and today he's suffered a horrifying season ending labrum tear in his hip?

Nah. Don't buy it.

 

[TheRealDTM]

From Saturday:

"Percy Harvin ‏@Percy_Harvin 20 Jul
Started my engine ( my legs/ body) past few days to make sue everything running. everything checked out and gas on full ... Ready for camp"

so somehow between saturday and today he's suffered a horrifying season ending labrum tear in his hip?

Nah. Don't buy it.

Or we can add liar on top of injury prone malcontent?

 

[SoHo9erFan]

so somehow between saturday and today he's suffered a horrifying season ending labrum tear in his hip?

Nah. Don't buy it.

that is typically how injuries work.