Geno Smith

[SoulfishHawk]

I just got through watching the replay. Geno wasn't under any pressure to speak of, but he did throw it off his back foot like you said. But there wasn't a "crowd" of defenders. There was one DB covering Metcalf and facing Geno, and when he saw where Geno was going with the ball, came off Metcalf and made the easy pick. Geno threw the ball where he wanted to, but for whatever reason, Metcalf wasn't there.

agree to disagree, but alas, nothing is ever Geno's fault.

 

[Fernie Hawks Fan]

In this last game, when Geno threw that first pick, I was thinking...Here we go again with Mr. Pick.
However, Geno did put together a few good drives and made some great throws for TDs.
Yes, he should have been picked at least three other times if it weren't for cement hands by the opposing D, but I WAS impressed with his play during those TD drives. The trouble is, and I had a feeling it was going to happen, whether it was DK's fault or not, he makes that one decision that screws the pooch.
Therein lies his biggest weakness.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Exactly. He can be very good. But being good for some of the game just isn't good enough. He just doesn't have the clutch gene, at all.
I'm still trying to figure out how "he had a game winning drive"
......................when they lost the game.

 

[RiverDog]

agree to disagree, but alas, nothing is ever Geno's fault.

Oh, I'm no Geno jock sniffer. As a matter of fact, I have a personal dislike for the guy and have to discipline myself not to let it affect my football judgement of his play.

Geno made plenty of mistakes yesterday. The first pick was on him and got away with a couple of bad throws, and I'm with those that feel we should move on from him next season. I just doubt that last one was on him.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Brock Huard said himself today that it was on both of them.

 

[Mistashoesta]

 

[Wsumatt1982]

At this point, if they have to trade DK or another star player to make that happen, I'm all for it. I want Smith off this team and take Grubb and Woolen with you.

I'm so glad you are not the GM of this team, we would be screwed for decades

 

[Wsumatt1982]

The offense did better than average against the Viikings D led by Flores, but the problem is you are not paying Geno Smith to be average to above average. That is why drafting a QB in the first round becomes more enticing from a cap perspective.

You are paying Geno to be average. He has about the 16th highest salary among QB's in the NFL.

 

[AgentDib]

Geno has been a good asset this year providing surplus value over his cap hit. It's not insane Russ rookie contract value, but don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good. Sam Howell did not look like even a backup caliber NFL QB in this same offense.

At the same time, the FO does need to draft QBs more often than we have been. Both things can be true, and saying something non-negative about Geno on a fan forum doesn't mean he will be locked into the starting QB role for the next decade.

Darnold is a pretty interesting comparison because almost nobody thought he was a decent option at this time last year, and now he looks like a pretty decent option when put in a system that is enabling his success. Sataoa Laumea is clearly not ready to play in the NFL yet, and him starting the last two must win games is a huge question mark for the FO.

 

[toffee]

Oh, I'm no Geno jock sniffer. As a matter of fact, I have a personal dislike for the guy and have to discipline myself not to let it affect my football judgement of his play.

That makes two of us, I share that dislike, and the need to discipline myself. I became an early advocate of Geno Smith as our franchise QB based purely on his football performance. We may witness his last games as a Seahawks, it's time to appreciate Geno.

 

[RiverDog]

Brock Huard said himself today that it was on both of them.

I'm not sure how he would know, but he's obviously more qualified and in a better position to judge than either of us.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

I have a few friends who are Geno apologists. The last 2 weeks, they have all come out and said they are done w/geNOT

 

[SoulfishHawk]

I'm not sure how he would know, but he's obviously more qualified and in a better position to judge than either of us.

At this point, does it really matter? They flat out handed away another game. Maddening.

 

[bigskydoc]

The question becomes, what to do with the 25 million they would "save" by cutting Geno? You have to do something with it to make the team better than it would be with Geno, either now, or in 2026 or 2027.

Justin Fields (who would be my FA target) isn't taking 25 million APY, but you could likely sign him to a 30 million APY contract with a cap hit less than 25 million for next year.

I would prefer to bite the bullet, roll the dice, and take a late round/ UDFA gamble at around a million APY.

We have around 46 million coming off the dead money books next year. I'm not sure how much of that we need for existing and new commitments, but we can spend what we have on free agent acquisitions, and look to 2026 for either drafting our QBOTF, or bringing in a Matt Stafford to Rams / Tom Brady to Buccaneers type of acquisition, if the rest of the team is ready to roll the distance.

 

[jammerhawk]

Geno in a nutshell is a capable middle level QB with an occasionally elite arm. He has real limitations under pressure and rarely if ever is up to the task. The results are his redzone picks, untimely drive killing sacks, and a genuine aversion to contact. To me it's his head that keeps him from being special on any consistent basis. Frankly at this stage of his career I don't see him ever getting past his redzone or under pressure woes to become a top tier pivot. He seems to just choke under pressure and all his good play is reversed by a mental error or a untimely mistake.

He sure is frustrating to watch b/c at times he's special but at others he's just Gee-No. Keeping him is toss up for me b/c he continues to mire the team in his world of mediocrity. I'd be prepared to roll with a younger player with a higher upside even if it meant allowing that younger player time to mature as a QB.

 

[Spin Doctor]

Geno is what he is, a middle of the road QB. This is what a middle of the road QB looks like, you get flashes of brilliance followed by flashes of ??????. He's clearly evolved as a player since his time as a Jet, but the same tendencies he had there rear their ugly head.

One thing I notice about him, he really seems to struggle to go off script. He also seems to have a really bad sense of, particularly this year of situational awareness of win cons. There were so many times were I was thinking to myself, for the love of god throw it away man. You don't need to be a hero! What does he do? Holds onto the ball for an eternity and eats a sack that takes us out of field goal range.

I don't think he is as bad as other people are saying, but the FO really needs to understand that we need a contingency here. Geno is not a long term solution -- we're working on borrowed time. Overlooking this QB draft was a huge mistake. While I'm glad we got Murphy, we can't keep kicking the can down the road.

 

[SeaWolv]

No one said this season would be easy but what we learned is that this team needs a QBOTF a lot sooner.

Wished they would have done this in the 2024 draft. QB draft is thin in 2025. Now it's going to be much harder to draft a QBotF going forward assuming the team continues to improve from filling other needs in the off season.

Could JS get someone like Bryce Young? Is his welcome worn out in Carolina? He's been playing better lately.

 

[Wsumatt1982]

Wished they would have done this in the 2024 draft. QB draft is thin in 2025. Now it's going to be much harder to draft a QBotF going forward assuming the team continues to improve from filling other needs in the off season.

Could JS get someone like Bryce Young? Is his welcome worn out in Carolina? He's been playing better lately.

Bryce Young isn't going anywhere. They invested way too much into him and he seems to be figuring it out. He will be Carolina's QB for a long time

 

[Glasgow Seahawk]

I think you have to ride him for one more year given the lack of alternatives. Play out his last year of the contract but don't extend. Absolutely have a plan in place for a 2026 qb.

We probably need to take some risks to get out of mediocrity. Some tough decisions coming up on who to extend or put resources in. Do you pay metcalf 30+million or trade? Same with woolen. Lockett is a cap casualty etc

 

[SeaWolv]

Bryce Young isn't going anywhere. They invested way too much into him and he seems to be figuring it out. He will be Carolina's QB for a long time

He's still on his rookie contract and was already benched earlier this year. At best he's on a short leash at this point.