Geno Smith accusations

[Fresno Hawk]

Missed it, go back and look at some of the other threads. There were guys willing to give up thier left n#t trying to argue how he was top 5 QB. Well known members arguing that they wanted to see him on a different team so we can see how good he was for us. Arguing we would miss him. I truly dont know what they were watching.

 

[Ozzy]

I musta missed the people who said he was elite
I did think after the russ broken finger deal geno outplayed him but never thought he was elite , he was never that good but could run the offense better than ME3 was running it towards the end and then geno started throwing to the other team , like a lot in the red zone and apparently he thought he was elite lol

You definitely missed it. A few guys argued exactly that, some are in this thread....maybe they will jump in and explain their reasoning.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

I musta missed the people who said he was elite
I did think after the russ broken finger deal geno outplayed him but never thought he was elite , he was never that good but could run the offense better than ME3 was running it towards the end and then geno started throwing to the other team , like a lot in the red zone and apparently he thought he was elite lol

Nothing about geDIOCRE gePICK was elite. And trust me, plenty acted like he was.
Stats between the 20's, RARELY beating good teams. A turnover machine in the red zone.
And not even close to a leader.

 

[BirdsCommaAngry]

Geno could always find a man in the endzone and get him the ball. You never really knew which team the man would be playing for but he would get him the ball.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

But...........stats

 

[Trackhawk]

I musta missed the people who said he was elite
I did think after the russ broken finger deal geno outplayed him but never thought he was elite , he was never that good but could run the offense better than ME3 was running it towards the end and then geno started throwing to the other team , like a lot in the red zone and apparently he thought he was elite lol

Pretty good take. He had some phenomenal stats, and was on the cusp of putting it all together, but didn’t have the equanimity that would have propelled him into the elite category.

The biggest thing that stood out to me, other than the ill-timed interceptions, was his inability to work the pocket. So many times he failed to just step into the pocket that was there for him, instead, he would put himself in a bad, unprotected position. The ability to silence the noise, keep a clear head, and work inside a dirty pocket is one of the key things that truly separate the elite from the rest of the pack.

Overrated by many during his time here, and underrated by just as many simply because he’s gone, Gino was a star, albeit a shooting star.

When he left, he had two pro-bowl appearances, comeback player of the year, Seahawks record for yards in a season and completion percentage, which was also the best completion percentage in the league that year, NFL record for 4th quarter/overtime go ahead TD passes, tied franchise record for consecutive 100+ passer rating games

I don’t know if age caught up to him, or just his lack of composure, but he clearly fell off the pace he was briefly on

 

[Trackhawk]

And yes, I thought Darnold was largely a lateral move from peak Geno. I don’t know if I’m considered to be in the camp of Geno defenders, as I don’t really pay attention to that kind of stuff. I don’t think I was, but maybe some people think I am. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Thankfully, Sam had the mental fortitude to reel it back in when his interception rate started to get out of hand last year, where Geno just fell apart.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Let's be real here. Some people WANTED Geno to be great because he was replacing someone they hated and still do.

 

[godawg]

Great quarterbacks have, in addition to the physical tools Geno had, the intelligence to process very quickly, the mental fortitude to overcome mistakes, and the ability to lead others by example.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

He did none of those things.
Stats between the 20s, against crap teams. RARELY won the big game against a team over .500.

 

[toffee]

I was one of the earliest advocates for Geno.

The only thing I knew about Geno before he subbed for Wilson after the finger injury was Geno's broken jaw, some debt collection in the Jets' locker. I thought he had some character or maybe behavior issues.

I was quite impressed by his performance in the game he subbed for Wilson, much more than I expected. When Wilson rushed back to start with a broken finger, I lost respect for Wilson, but most of all for Carroll. I repeatedly said Carroll's decision was unworthy of a head coach. With that, I advocated for Geno to start the season after Wilson was traded.

After he was named the starter, a second career chance, he had a DUI. His 'small penis' incident at the DUI affirmed my questioning of his character and behavior issues.

What really opened my eyes was the Raiders' training camp. ALL balls took a second or so more to leave Geno's hand than all the other QBs, no pass rush, 3 or 4 QBs were throwing together, all things being equal, but Geno was just that second or so slower. That was a big Ummmmm moment for me. The OL problem followed Geno to the Raiders, another big Ummmmm.

Jets just gave him another chance to start, he followed that with a Baby Mama incident.

 

[Hawkinaz]

Geno is a free man

https://x.com/adamschefter/status/2077120827544182793?s=46

 

[SoulfishHawk]

pay off

 

[glenwo2]

pay off

obviously.

If GeNOPE wasn't an NFL player, he'd be in jail right now.

 

[RolandDeschain]

obviously.

If GeNOPE wasn't rich, he'd be in jail right now.

Fixed it for you.