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He's not a Brady, but Jesus - we actually had a game, because of the stupid ass playcalling from Grubb where we had as many sacks as first downs in the game? Thought it was 7 at the time. And on top of it Grubb doubled down and at one point was calling 80% pass plays when that shit wasn't working, and didn't have time.

How the hell anyone can expect Brady type stats out of him when he's consistently running for his life is beyond me. He was fine first season.

And the 'inexplicable' red zone INTs are simply a matter of a compressed field and ZERO time to throw the ball, and NO run plays being called this year.

He's not a superhero, but he's alot better than what some give him credit for IMHO. He's not gonna put the team on his back - Favre style or anything, but with some time to throw, and with some pieces around him fixed - he was fine his first year?! Bridge to a draft not this draft but next. IMO.
Ok, you're right. Yay Geno ! I'm going to order a jersey. No, I'll order two, just in case the first one gets stolen. Yeah, he did good the first season. The 2nd andv3rd ? Meh.
 

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With Rodgers available I’m surprised there isn’t a thread already talking about trading for him or trading Geno or or or or
Whenever Rogers is mentioned, I see him all heartbroken at the press conference after the NFC Champ game. Let's not ruin it by bringing him here
 
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Ok, you're right. Yay Geno ! I'm going to order a jersey. No, I'll order two, just in case the first one gets stolen. Yeah, he did good the first season. The 2nd andv3rd ? Meh.
Naw, that's not really what I was saying. ANYONE can make bad decisions when you're as beat up, hounded and straight up pressured and sacked as much as he is.

If, after the upcoming season, with new OC and any OLine pieces fixed and MM Defense 2.0 keeping our O on the field, he's still 'sucking' - I'd say it's time to move on.

I was a geno fanboy at first. Hell, I was over the top. I just think he's been dealt a shitty couple years with the tail end of Waldron and the amazing faceplant that was Grubb epically-nuclearly-failing that I believe he deserves another year in a non-stupid system to prove it.

And if I'm wrong I'll eat a big ol' bucket of crow. :)
 

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Naw, that's not really what I was saying. ANYONE can make bad decisions when you're as beat up, hounded and straight up pressured and sacked as much as he is.

If, after the upcoming season, with new OC and any OLine pieces fixed and MM Defense 2.0 keeping our O on the field, he's still 'sucking' - I'd say it's time to move on.

I was a geno fanboy at first. Hell, I was over the top. I just think he's been dealt a shitty couple years with the tail end of Waldron and the amazing faceplant that was Grubb epically-nuclearly-failing that I believe he deserves another year in a non-stupid system to prove it.

And if I'm wrong I'll eat a big ol' bucket of crow. :)
Fair enough. If Geno surprises me and plays sort of like first season Geno, I will not only eat that crow bucket, but a side orders of chicken lips and wolf nipple chips.
On a side note, I'm using " non stupid " tomorrow at work. Thanks in advance lol
 

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the pump before the dump. They want him to restructure so they can take a QB next year. This year is a disaster for QBs in the draft. 1 more year of inexplicable red zone picks, and we will move on. If we can run the ball even at a mediocre level next year we can have Geno get a bit more aggressive rather than all the check down Charlie crap.
Maybe the RZ looks different if there's actually a well schemed run game.
 

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Geno is guaranteed mediocrity and gets us absolutely nowhere. He isn't good enough to lead us to a sb, and he isn't bad enough to get us a top qb in the draft. I just don't understand why we keep settling for that. Instead, we are setting ourselves up for failure and he moves us backwards, not forward. Instead of Aim High, it's more like Aim for the Bottom and then wring our collective hands when we can never draft a qb we really want because we prefer constant purgatory. Another year of kicking the can down the road. Why even bother watching the games then? So fing tiresome.
 
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Geno is guaranteed mediocrity and gets us absolutely nowhere. He isn't good enough to lead us to a sb,
geNOs need to figure out why our young head coach recently announced: "We can win a championship with Geno." Perhaps by championship, he meant NFC West champ? It can't be NFC champ, can it ... NFC Champ goes to the Super Bowl.

or Macdonald used the word "can" instead of "will"?

 

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I hope he can take us to the playoffs next year. Then he will have his chance to get his first playoff win in 12 years of being a pro.
Must be hard to be held back and let down by his teammates and coaches all these years.
 
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You still don't get it, completion % is crucial except completion % achieved by Geno Smith, which became something to sneeze at by the geNOs.
what negates the completion percentage are his dismal red zone numbers, bottom of the barrel yards to stick numbers and his "aggression" rating is extremely low. He needs help.
 

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Geno is guaranteed mediocrity and gets us absolutely nowhere. He isn't good enough to lead us to a sb, and he isn't bad enough to get us a top qb in the draft. I just don't understand why we keep settling for that. Instead, we are setting ourselves up for failure and he moves us backwards, not forward. Instead of Aim High, it's more like Aim for the Bottom and then wring our collective hands when we can never draft a qb we really want because we prefer constant purgatory. Another year of kicking the can down the road. Why even bother watching the games then? So fing tiresome.
You play to win. We're not a rebuilding team nor should we be with the pieces we have. Geno gives you the best chance to win and the team feels he is good enough just needs more pieces around him to really take us there. Maybe they are right, maybe now. But you don't tank, that doesn't always work out. I understand your side of it but big picture it's wrong. You start tanking and stars want to leave. FA's don't want to come here unless you overpay. You don't have to look any further than Cleveland right now. Now they will get a nice haul for Garrett but they still have to hit on all of their compensation which history says they won't. We have a window to take the division now. The Seahawks won't throw that away, thats not why Mike MacDonald was hired. They feel they can win now. So do I with a few more of the right pieces.
 

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You play to win. We're not a rebuilding team nor should we be with the pieces we have. Geno gives you the best chance to win and the team feels he is good enough just needs more pieces around him to really take us there. Maybe they are right, maybe now. But you don't tank, that doesn't always work out. I understand your side of it but big picture it's wrong. You start tanking and stars want to leave. FA's don't want to come here unless you overpay. You don't have to look any further than Cleveland right now. Now they will get a nice haul for Garrett but they still have to hit on all of their compensation which history says they won't. We have a window to take the division now. The Seahawks won't throw that away, thats not why Mike MacDonald was hired. They feel they can win now. So do I with a few more of the right pieces.
I agree that tanking isn't the answer but also Geno is not the long term answer.
Not sure what JS can do because it's not like he has passed on an opportunity to pick a good QB.
 

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I agree that tanking isn't the answer but also Geno is not the long term answer.
Not sure what JS can do because it's not like he has passed on an opportunity to pick a good QB.
I think everyone agrees Geno is not the long-term answer. He is the answer for 2025, depending on where we are at and the drafts maybe 2026 tops. But that's it. That's the thing, there hasn't been a QB in the draft we could really draft at any point over the past however many years. Last year I think we liked Penix but he went higher than expected to a team no one expected. We will never know completely if they had a plan to move up but it's been extremely slim pickings the last 5-10 years without moving up substantially. in hindsight we should have for Mahomes or Allen (which is reported JS liked) but who can really say for sure.
 

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We all want to win, but it's fair to wonder if there's a ceiling on Geno. History tells us that he's likely to hit a sharp decline physically soon. His window is closing. Can we even build the rest of the team up as much as it needs to be in enough time for Geno to be capable of leading the team past maybe the divisional round, if he's even capable of that now?
 

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what negates the completion percentage are his dismal red zone numbers, bottom of the barrel yards to stick numbers and his "aggression" rating is extremely low. He needs help.
Seattle was 57.14% in Red Zone Scoring %. Not great but good enough for 14th in the league with a limited ground attack. Baltimore was #1 at 73.97%. Clearly a Derrick Henry effect as they were a putrid 42% in 2023. Buffalo was #2 in 2024 at 69.62% and Detroit was #3 at 67.95%.

https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/red-zone-scoring-pct?date=2025-02-10
 

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We all want to win, but it's fair to wonder if there's a ceiling on Geno. History tells us that he's likely to hit a sharp decline physically soon. His window is closing. Can we even build the rest of the team up as much as it needs to be in enough time for Geno to be capable of leading the team past maybe the divisional round, if he's even capable of that now?
I'm thinking more in terms of building the team up for the QBotF and see if Geno can win with it before the said QBotF is up to speed and ready to lead the team.
 

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I'm thinking more in terms of building the team up for the QBotF and see if Geno can win with it before the said QBotF is up to speed and ready to lead the team.
Exactly. Get the QBOTF (hopefully) now. Let him sit and develop so he can take over for a Geno after next year. Still try to win now but seamless transition for the future to continue that. That's by far the best way to do it.
 

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I am in full agreement that tanking is not the way forward but if we can get a second or first for Geno I am all for it. Then just roll the dice with some other journeyman level QB. A step down probably but better for the long term.
 

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