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Metcalf is a good blocker? You could have fooled me.

PFF gave Metcalf a 56.3 run blocking grade, which isn't considered good let alone "helluva". It ranks him 47th amongst WR's who had enough snaps to qualify for a ranking. Puka Nacua, Mike Evans, Jalen Waddle, Michael Pittman are all WR's who ranked in the top 10 in that category. Metcalf didn't get enough attempts to qualify for a pass blocking grade.

And as long as we're talking about PFF rankings, overall Metcalf is the 35th ranked receiver, so they're not nearly as smitten with him as you appear to be.
Um, yes he is. Wyman talks about it all the time. I'm gonna' go ahead and trust the opinion of a 9 year NFL Linebacker over a fan.
Believe what you want, I'll do the same.

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I think DK is pretty good blocking DBs. You see him all the time when JSN makes a catch, if DK is in the area he's out there pancaking DBs.

Now in-line blocking against DTs tracking down pulling guards and shit, he makes business decisions. ;)
 

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Um, yes he is. Wyman talks about it all the time. I'm gonna' go ahead and trust the opinion of a 9 year NFL Linebacker over a fan.
Believe what you want, I'll do the same.

Go Hawks
Go DK
Um, I'm not asking you to trust me, PFF, or anyone else. For my part, haven't seen anything out of Metcalf, whether it be PFF rankings or my own eyeballs, that would lead me to believe that he's a good let alone a "helluva" blocker.
 
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Um, I'm not asking you to trust me, PFF, or anyone else. For my part, haven't seen anything out of Metcalf, whether it be PFF rankings or my own eyeballs, that would lead me to believe that he's a good let alone a "helluva" blocker.
:rolleyes: On boy, how wishy washy. Haven’t seen anything? Then you’ve ignored it, are blind or are choosing not to because then you’ve have to admit your ignorance. let me guess he didn’t get you the points needed for fantasy football? Or is it because you expect Calvin Johnson out of him? lol 😂
 

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Um, I'm not asking you to trust me, PFF, or anyone else. For my part, haven't seen anything out of Metcalf, whether it be PFF rankings or my own eyeballs, that would lead me to believe that he's a good let alone a "helluva" blocker.
Because it's DK. You rarely see anything good in him. And that's fine.
 

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The problem with DK is the same issue that we have with most of the Seahawk roster. We have a bunch of guys that are good, but not remarkable in most capacities. The big standout on this team obviously being big cat, a guy we didn't even draft.

The issue with DK is he makes unforced mental errors that he should not be making at this juncture in his career. Cutting your route too early and sloppily rounding your routes is something you would expect from a rookie. He's playing like he's new to the NFL, but at this point he's a veteran that has been playing with Geno for nearly his whole career in some capacity. In some respects his route running looks like it is getting even worse.

The other rub on DK is he just isn't a huge playmaker. He is one of the most athletically gifted players to ever play wide receiver. He runs a 4.33 40 at 6'4 235, he's practically the size of a small TE. He has something like a 41 inch vertical, which is getting close to the highest vertical ever recorded in the NFL (45). Despite his size he is awful at boxing out defenders and high pointing the ball. This is one of the major differences between DK Metcalf and Calvin Johnson. He plays closer to a small burner like DeSean Jackson back in the day than he does a receiver of his stature.

DK isn't a bad receiver, he's just not what I would consider a blue chip player. He's a replaceable commodity, if they decided to trade him I would completely understand the FO's sentiment.
 

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The problem with DK is the same issue that we have with most of the Seahawk roster. We have a bunch of guys that are good, but not remarkable in most capacities. The big standout on this team obviously being big cat, a guy we didn't even draft.

The issue with DK is he makes unforced mental errors that he should not be making at this juncture in his career. Cutting your route too early and sloppily rounding your routes is something you would expect from a rookie. He's playing like he's new to the NFL, but at this point he's a veteran that has been playing with Geno for nearly his whole career in some capacity. In some respects his route running looks like it is getting even worse.

The other rub on DK is he just isn't a huge playmaker. He is one of the most athletically gifted players to ever play wide receiver. He runs a 4.33 40 at 6'4 235, he's practically the size of a small TE. He has something like a 41 inch vertical, which is getting close to the highest vertical ever recorded in the NFL (45). Despite his size he is awful at boxing out defenders and high pointing the ball. This is one of the major differences between DK Metcalf and Calvin Johnson. He plays closer to a small burner like DeSean Jackson back in the day than he does a receiver of his stature.

DK isn't a bad receiver, he's just not what I would consider a blue chip player. He's a replaceable commodity, if they decided to trade him I would completely understand the FO's sentiment.
This.

Metcalf's route running is my biggest beef with him, and I don't know what to attribute it to.

The other thing about Metcalf is that he's one dimensional. His athletic gifts are more of the Charles Atlas variety. He can't be utilized on jet sweeps and bubble screens like other fart-in-a-skillet receivers like Tyreek Hill, and he's not a Deebo Samuel-type WR that can be used as a half assed running back.

And I agree with your last paragraph. Metcalf isn't garbage, far from it, and he was a brilliant selection when we drafted him by trading up in the bottom of the 2nd round. He's a solid NFL receiver. He's just not a Pro Bowl-quality receiver worth a market setting contract. The position is loaded with great athletes.
 

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For that I would move DK. #23. Doubs or Wicks and a day 3 pick. You won't get better than that. Neither has been real consistent but both have nice skill sets. I would prefer Doubs because he has a slightly better track record. I do like Wicks, he just needs to be more consistent. Biggest complaint about Doubs is he wears the helmet diaper.
 
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Um, yes he is. Wyman talks about it all the time. I'm gonna' go ahead and trust the opinion of a 9 year NFL Linebacker over a fan.
Believe what you want, I'll do the same.

Go Hawks
Go DK
That and the eye test. Not sure what PFF is looking at but every time I pay attention to DK on a run he's making a good block. Even I will admit that and I've been as critical as anyone of him the last couple years
 

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For that I would move DK. #23. Doubs or Wicks and a day 3 pick. You won't get better than that. Neither has been real consistent but both have nice skill sets. I would prefer Doubs because he has a slightly better track record. I do like Wicks, he just needs to be more consistent. Biggest complaint about Doubs is he wears the helmet diaper.
I'd take that trade in a heartbeat. A first rounder and Doubs for a day 3 pick?! GB is right, that's an offer they can't really refuse. The Hawks aren't going to get a better offer than that.

Edit: Just watched some tape on tall WR's in this draft and they could take Savion Williams in the 2nd, I'd love that :love:
 
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I wonder if this has something to do with them trying to get a pick for Rayshawn Jenkins whom we all suspect was a cut casualty. Maybe trying to recoup a pick to balance this out
 

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damn, I'm conflicted but getting a 1st round pick for DK is tempting. I wonder if they are going trade both 1st round picks to trade up for Sanders or Ward.
 

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damn, I'm conflicted but getting a 1st round pick for DK is tempting. I wonder if they are going trade both 1st round picks to trade up for Sanders or Ward.
I wouldn't, not for those two. I'd take Kenneth Grant and one of Shemar Stewart, Jalon Walker or Jihaad Campbell.
 

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I do not like our odds of finding a QB in this draft and would rather have a 1st & 3rd in 2026. I doubt the slating would change much + or - from 23. Once you show a willingness to accept picks in 26', it could attract other suitors.
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