Geno ain't goin' anywhere -

[Ozzy]

It's coach-speak season. Mac was asked a question about Geno and gave the answer you would expect him to give. What benefit is there to not expressing complete confidence in his abilities? Free agency is not replete with obvious upgrades, and there are really only two good QBs in this draft, neither of which are likely to hit reasonable trade-up range. Even if behind closed

geNOs need to figure out why our young head coach recently announced: "We can win a championship with Geno." Perhaps by championship, he meant NFC West champ? It can't be NFC champ, can it ... NFC Champ goes to the Super Bowl.

or Macdonald used the word "can" instead of "will"?

Mike Macdonald: We can win a championship with Geno Smith

When Mike Macdonald became the Seahawks head coach last year, he created some doubt about his level of commitment to quarterback Geno Smith but there's been a lot less ambiguity this year.

www.nbcsports.com

It’s coach speak he has to say that. It could be a terrible cycle to get a replacement even if he wanted to so if that’s the case and he’s forced to roll with Geno even if he doesn’t want to would he ever admit it? Nope.

My guess is they want to play Geno one more year because it’s the best option in place. I could be wrong though

 

[Wsumatt1982]

It’s coach speak he has to say that. It could be a terrible cycle to get a replacement even if he wanted to so if that’s the case and he’s forced to roll with Geno even if he doesn’t want to would he ever admit it? Nope.

My guess is they want to play Geno one more year because it’s the best option in place. I could be wrong though

Totally agree. Mike is very smart and calculated. He wants to be here long term. He knows father time is undefeated. He wants to win now but he also knows he needs his own young QB now as well.

 

[Rat]

I'm thinking more in terms of building the team up for the QBotF and see if Geno can win with it before the said QBotF is up to speed and ready to lead the team.

I get that, but we need to actually make that move for a QBotF at some point soon. And a real move, not using a 4th or 5th rounder and praying they're in the very small minority that actually becomes a legitimate franchise QB.

 

[SeaWolv]

Exactly. Get the QBOTF (hopefully) now. Let him sit and develop so he can take over for a Geno after next year. Still try to win now but seamless transition for the future to continue that. That's by far the best way to do it.

Unfortunately, I think it may not be until 2026 when they find QBotF.

 

[Wsumatt1982]

Unfortunately, I think it may not be until 2026 when they find QBotF.

I agree. Not a great class, but I hope they try on Howard, Dart or McCord. Dart will likely go too high

 

[Rat]

Please no on Dart or Howard. I'm lukewarm on McCord; I'll be interested in seeing how he tests. I think Ewers has some potential if he's allowed to develop.

 

[keasley45]

It’s coach speak he has to say that. It could be a terrible cycle to get a replacement even if he wanted to so if that’s the case and he’s forced to roll with Geno even if he doesn’t want to would he ever admit it? Nope.

My guess is they want to play Geno one more year because it’s the best option in place. I could be wrong though

Every compliment is coach speak. Every accolade is 'charity' from media that was too harsh and loves his cute story now. And every great stat means actually means nothing...

That about cover it?

You see 'coach's speak' yet if there is one thing all the fans seem to love about Mac is his directness and unwillingness to tolerate a player not living up to his side of the bargain.

So coach speak? Yeah. Maybe. Or it could be that at years end, he was pissed and when he said Geno was his qb 'right now', it could have been simple acknowledgement that he really wants him here but isnt the fuy with the final say.

What has happened since?

1.Mac has been very frorntal about saying that he WILL be oart of the process with Geno and he WILL play a 'not insignificant ' role in the lead up to the draft and process in signing free agents.

2. We got our new OC, who by all accounts is an excellent fit for Geno and is capable of doing all of the things from a scheme perspective that Geno excells at and Grubb was incapable of. Its entirely possible (100%) likely they have sat down and talked the offense and soecifically how Geno fits with what Kubiaks wants from his QB. AND its highly likely Kubiak has said ' yeah, this offense could be pretty deadly with Smith, (hence Mac saying definitively now that we can win a SB with him) and that he is eager to get to work with him.

So what you see as 'coach speak' could easily be a HC who has like his qb from the beginning and given zero indication otherwise now having the confidence in knowing his OC cosigns on the idea of his qb sticking around and flourishing with him, and that with the alignment of OC, HC and the desire of the qb to be here, that the chances of Geno in fact being here via extension for the next few years are all but a certainty - if Mac wants him and believes we can win with Smith and Kubiak sees a qb capable of doing everything he can draw up, that convincing John to 'make it happen' is all but a formality.

 

[Rat]

You see 'coach's speak' yet if there is one thing all the fans seem to love about Mac is his directness and unwillingness to tolerate a player not living up to his side of the bargain.

You mean the one time he did that? It's easy to cut underforming players like Dodson or Baker on cheap one-year contracts who have already been paid everything the team owes them.

I'm not saying he doesn't really have full confidence in Geno, I just don't see what benefit there is to saying anything else when he's asked about it.

Everybody lies. The draft, the off-season, it's all a game. I don't think one season is enough to know for sure if Mac is an exception.

 

[keasley45]

You mean the one time he did that? It's easy to cut underforming players like Dodson or Baker on cheap one-year contracts who have already been paid everything the team owes them.

I'm not saying he doesn't really have full confidence in Geno, I just don't see what benefit there is to saying anything else when he's asked about it.

Everybody lies. The draft, the off-season, it's all a game. I don't think one season is enough to know for sure if Mac is an exception.

There's a whole range of compliments he can give that dont go so far as saying he is great, we want him here and when asked about Geno's place here, responding with 'i dont understand the question'. I mean, i guess if you want to read something negative into it you can do so. Same thing happened before Geno was extended last time and it all turned out to be exactly what the coach and FO was saying.

 

[TheLegendOfBoom]

Just in case, JS, cannot fix the offensive line—keep Geno, so Geno can suffer the wrath of a non functional offensive line than a young up and comer QB. If Seattle is drafting a QB high in this draft, have that young QB sit for a year or two so Geno can be killed behind the offensive line instead….

Either way, let Geno test this offensive line for next year and let whoever gets drafted safe on the bench until he is earned his right to be destroyed by the Seattle offensive line starting in 2026!

It’s only fair!

 

[toffee]

Three key points:

1. What Geno wants? A long-term contract with guaranteed money.
2. What Seahawks want? Finish the current contract or a long-term contract with no guaranteed money.
3. Who decides? Schneider. He hasn't said a word about the situation.

See, the team's interest and Geno's isn't lining up, Geno will stay and play only if there are no other suitors.

Macdonald and Schneider are playing the good cop bad cop.

 

[Rat]

There's a whole range of compliments he can give that dont go so far as saying he is great, we want him here and when asked about Geno's place here, responding with 'i dont understand the question'. I mean, i guess if you want to read something negative into it you can do so. Same thing happened before Geno was extended last time and it all turned out to be exactly what the coach and FO was saying.

I'm not necessarily reading anything negative into it. I'm sure he does like Geno. There are absolutely things to like. I also think he's smart enough to know that, barring something surprising, Geno is almost definitely our best option for next season. Showing confidence in him is the right thing to do. That seems to be his philosophy on motivation anyway. He basically never says anything critical in the press; the closest he would get would be things like "we need to establish the run better" or that kind of thing that points to a need for improvement without specifically blaming anyone. When Haynes got benched, I don't recall anything really being said about him, just that Bradford would be getting all the first-team snaps going forward. That's a positive attribute of Mac IMO.

Now, if you're asking whether I 100% believe that he has no doubt that Geno is the guy for the next 2-3 years, or that he won't even consider other options if they become available? I don't know. I need to see the actions. I don't think he's flat-out lying about Geno, but I wouldn't be surprised if there's some embellishment. I've followed pro sports long enough to know that coaches are very frequently not to be taken completely at their word. Everything is always the truth until it isn't.

 

[Ostatehawk]

I agree with your first sentence. Theres really no chance to upgrade in the draft and free agency wont offer anyone decent. I hope you are right about the second sentence. Good Geno is good enough so if they mprove other areas , maybe it will keep Evil Geno from appearing too often.

This is reasonable. I think it is clear that we are not going to make a playoff run of any sort because of Geno - but hopefully with some upgrades we will be able to make do as there just aren't many (if any) other options that work for the Hawks right now.

 

[Ostatehawk]

With Rodgers available I’m surprised there isn’t a thread already talking about trading for him or trading Geno or or or or

Ill start that thread ASAP.

 

[Ozzy]

I'm not necessarily reading anything negative into it. I'm sure he does like Geno. There are absolutely things to like. I also think he's smart enough to know that, barring something surprising, Geno is almost definitely our best option for next season. Showing confidence in him is the right thing to do. That seems to be his philosophy on motivation anyway. He basically never says anything critical in the press; the closest he would get would be things like "we need to establish the run better" or that kind of thing that points to a need for improvement without specifically blaming anyone. When Haynes got benched, I don't recall anything really being said about him, just that Bradford would be getting all the first-team snaps going forward. That's a positive attribute of Mac IMO.

Now, if you're asking whether I 100% believe that he has no doubt that Geno is the guy for the next 2-3 years, or that he won't even consider other options if they become available? I don't know. I need to see the actions. I don't think he's flat-out lying about Geno, but I wouldn't be surprised if there's some embellishment. I've followed pro sports long enough to know that coaches are very frequently not to be taken completely at their word. Everything is always the truth until it isn't.

This is how I see it. I don't take his comments to mean he views Geno the way Keasely does where you should lock him up for 3 years and if you fix things he can be a top 10 guy into his late 30's which is what is being argued by some. I think Mike knows he may be in a position where Geno is his best option this year and he may be right so you want to be confident and present that and he may very well be confident in Geno like you said.

I would guess either way Mike knows he needs to find his next guy though and fast.

 

[toffee]

This is reasonable. I think it is clear that we are not going to make a playoff run of any sort because of Geno - but hopefully with some upgrades we will be able to make do as there just aren't many (if any) other options that work for the Hawks right now.

Ya question our genius-level head football coach's football acumen? or callin' him a liar?

Macdonald:
"This guy, he’s a great player, man, and we can win a championship with Geno Smith. We really believe that and can’t wait to get back to work with him.”

Mike Macdonald believes Seahawks 'can win a championship with Geno Smith'

Geno Smith isn't going anywhere, according to Seahawks head coach Mike Macdonald.

www.si.com

 

[pittpnthrs]

geNOs need to figure out why our young head coach recently announced: "We can win a championship with Geno." Perhaps by championship, he meant NFC West champ? It can't be NFC champ, can it ... NFC Champ goes to the Super Bowl.

or Macdonald used the word "can" instead of "will"?

Mike Macdonald: We can win a championship with Geno Smith

When Mike Macdonald became the Seahawks head coach last year, he created some doubt about his level of commitment to quarterback Geno Smith but there's been a lot less ambiguity this year.

www.nbcsports.com

That's easy enough. What is the coach supposed to say - "Sorry everybody, but we're forced to ride with our mediocre QB until a few other areas are fixed and then we can concentrate on the QB position". Is that what Geno and everybody else wants to hear from him?

 

[Ostatehawk]

Ya question our genius-level head football coach's football acumen? or callin' him a liar?

Neither -

I don't think we make a run BECAUSE of Geno - if we make a playoff run it will be because of defense and superior O line play. Geno isn't carrying the team - the team will carry him as long as he doesn't screw it up too badly.

 

[toffee]

Neither -

I don't think we make a run BECAUSE of Geno - if we make a playoff run it will be because of defense and superior O line play. Geno isn't carrying the team - the team will carry him as long as he doesn't screw it up too badly.

Begging your pardon but I ain't questioning our head football coach's acumen.

 

[DeSeahawk]

Tell ya what ....... if they sign Geno up to a 3 or 4 year deal I will question everything including who he has blackmail worthy pictures of