Five possible destinations for Geno Smith

[JayhawkMike]

Really ok with average? Datta a boy!

In a different thread I dubbed it the Seahawk Mediocre-coaster.

One year I took my kids to the Puyallup and they were younger. Somewhere near the bungee-cord slingshot area was a roller coaster for kids. A dragon I think that never got more than maybe 6-8 feet off the ground in a circle. My kids screamed and cried in real terror. Some here seem the same. Our team only gets barely off the ground and and I see a lot of fear.

 

[Double Tribble]

Yes it does, why you build a team with a serviceable guy and then try later round draft picks till you hit, you can build a team and make it ready for that guy to excel. How many players can you get for a high pick on a team that sucks all around by trading back a bit so when you do get a guy he can hit the ground running so to speak.

Different philosophies so I don't expect any agreement.

How is that any different than what we've been doing? If these mediocre results are OK with you and others here than I literally don't know what to say, except Aim High. You may miss, but if you aim low, you'll definitely hit.

 

[Wsumatt1982]

In a different thread I dubbed it the Seahawk Mediocre-coaster.

One year I took my kids to the Puyallup and they were younger. Somewhere near the bungee-cord slingshot area was a roller coaster for kids. A dragon I think that never got more than maybe 6-8 feet off the ground in a circle. My kids screamed and cried in real terror. Some here seem the same. Our team only gets barely off the ground and and I see a lot of fear.

I’m all on board if we can do better than Geno. I wanna move off him as much as anybody but again, who?

 

[JayhawkMike]

I’m all on board if we can do better than Geno. I wanna move off him as much as anybody but again, who?

That's the fear talking. MAKE a better QB. Draft and develop. "Well, if we can get Mahomes I am fine with Geno getting cut" But we all know nothing like that will happen. "But [insert QB draft choice here] is such a risk. No matter who is listed who isnt a current top 5 QB there will always be the haters. You have to take a CHANCE on someone because Geno is not going to be any better and his best isn't good enough against good teams and that's the type of teams you see in the post-season.

 

[Wsumatt1982]

That's the fear talking. MAKE a better QB. Draft and develop. "Well, if we can get Mahomes I am fine with Geno getting cut" But we all know nothing like that will happen. "But [insert QB draft choice here] is such a risk. No matter who is listed who isnt a current top 5 QB there will always be the haters. You have to take a CHANCE on someone because Geno is not going to be any better and his best isn't good enough against good teams and that's the type of teams you see in the post-season.

That’s not fear talking. Until I see what else is on our roster, our best QB is Geno. Do we need to draft one? Yes but very unlikely they come into 2025 giving us a better chance to win in 2025. You play to win the game

 

[chris98251]

How is that any different than what we've been doing? If these mediocre results are OK with you and others here than I literally don't know what to say, except Aim High. You may miss, but if you aim low, you'll definitely hit.

What we been doing has worked pretty good overall, our problem is a O line, you can get a complete O line for the price of one QB, we just have to do it.

 

[Titus Pullo]

I’m all on board if we can do better than Geno. I wanna move off him as much as anybody but again, who?

Draft Kyle McCord in the first round and bring in Zach Wilson on the cheap.

 

[Wsumatt1982]

Draft Kyle McCord in the first round and bring in Zach Wilson on the cheap.

McCord is not a 1st rounder today. I’m all for bringing him in but not as a 1st

 

[JayhawkMike]

That’s not fear talking. Until I see what else is on our roster, our best QB is Geno. Do we need to draft one? Yes but very unlikely they come into 2025 giving us a better chance to win in 2025. You play to win the game

That’s the problem. Short term ONE year thinking. “Who will be the best QB for 2025???”

who gives a shit.

I want to start building to be a contender and don’t expect it next year. But Geno is a waste of snaps and we need the next QB to be learning and growing NOW

 

[Wsumatt1982]

That’s the problem. Short term ONE year thinking. “Who will be the best QB for 2025???”

who gives a shit.

I want to start building to be a contender and don’t expect it next year. But Geno is a waste of snaps and we need the next QB to be learning and growing NOW

You can have both. Geno can be your starter and helping you win and have a backup in place learning behind him. Hell, Mahomes did it, Rodgers did it. Brady did it. The list goes on and on. We do need someone behind learning but we also need to be winning now too. That's all I'm saying. That is in no way Short term one year thinking as you suggest.

 

[Titus Pullo]

You can have both. Geno can be your starter and helping you win and have a backup in place learning behind him. Hell, Mahomes did it, Rodgers did it. Brady did it. The list goes on and on. We do need someone behind learning but we also need to be winning now too. That's all I'm saying. That is in no way Short term one year thinking as you suggest.

How much CAP space will be used on Geno? That matters.

There will be another whole new offense installed so Geno doesn't have the upper hand on anyone.

Texans, Washington, and Broncos did pretty well in starting their newly drafted QBs.

A player drafted in the 1st round gets a 5-year rookie contract instead of a 4-year contract.

 

[Wsumatt1982]

How much CAP space will be used on Geno? That matters.

There will be another whole new offense installed so Geno doesn't have the upper hand on anyone.

Texans, Washington, and Broncos did pretty well in starting their newly drafted QBs.

A player drafted in the 1st round gets a 5-year rookie contract instead of a 4-year contract.

That's why I have said extend Geno which brings his cap hit down and gives you outs every year. You won't be married to him but you an average QB helping win now while you develop for down the road.

You mentioned 3 teams who picked at the top of the draft, 2 in the top 3 and 1 at 12. Now go ahead and list all the teams who picked that high (something we have not done outside of last year and the top QB's were gone) that haven't worked out.

I'm not even sure I see what argument you are trying to make to be honest

 

[Titus Pullo]

That's why I have said extend Geno which brings his cap hit down and gives you outs every year. You won't be married to him but you an average QB helping win now while you develop for down the road.

You mentioned 3 teams who picked at the top of the draft, 2 in the top 3 and 1 at 12. Now go ahead and list all the teams who picked that high (something we have not done outside of last year and the top QB's were gone) that haven't worked out.

I'm not even sure I see what argument you are trying to make to be hones

One more year with Geno at how much?

Why waste that money on Geno just to pick at 10 or above again in 2026?

Unless Geno plans to play for a 1year 20 million contract, then I would move on to a cheaper option like Zach.
That money could be better used somewhere else.

What advantage does Geno have over Zach Wilson or a drafted QB this coming season when a whole new offense will be implemented this year? They will all start at square one.

 

[toffee]

That's why I have said extend Geno which brings his cap hit down and gives you outs every year. You won't be married to him but you an average QB helping win now while you develop for down the road.

You mentioned 3 teams who picked at the top of the draft, 2 in the top 3 and 1 at 12. Now go ahead and list all the teams who picked that high (something we have not done outside of last year and the top QB's were gone) that haven't worked out.

I'm not even sure I see what argument you are trying to make to be honest

That would not be Geno's first choice to have a contract that the team can have outs, he will take it if that's the only offer out there. But, with Pete running the Raiders, Geno may have another suitor

 

[Wsumatt1982]

One more year with Geno at how much?

Why waste that money on Geno just to pick at 10 or above again in 2026?

Unless Geno plans to play for a 1year 20 million contract, then I would move on to a cheaper option like Zach.
That money could be better used somewhere else.

What advantage does Geno have over Zach Wilson or a drafted QB this coming season when a whole new offense will be implemented this year? They will all start at square one.

First off, Thank you. People taking your stance I have asked for names to replace Geno and you are the first to give a suggestion. The only difference between the two would be familiarity and rapport with his teammates. Geno I also thing would be a better leader/teacher. Geno still gives you a better chance to win now over someone like Zach Wilson.

I'm no fan of Zach Wilson but I'm also not a professional, just because I don't see any value out of him doesn't mean professionals don't.

Again, I'm all for moving off Geno and have been for years but there needs to be a plan not just throw darts at a board and hope for the best which is what some seem to have been suggesting.

The draft, even picking very high is no guarantees. I know the names are sexier but that means nothing, especially at QB. You let go of Geno and throw someone far inferior out there then the team sees that as tanking. They quit on you, they leave, free agents won't come here and then you are in purgatory.

We all agree, we need a plan at QB ASAP, but is this the year we find answers in the draft? We won't know for years, and best option in the FA market maybe better than Geno is Darnold

 

[Wsumatt1982]

That would not be Geno's first choice to have a contract that the team can have outs, he will take it if that's the only offer out there. But, with Pete running the Raiders, Geno may have another suitor

I agree, that complicated things but I believe that is what the Seahawks want to do with Geno. Now Geno has a little more leverage thanks to Pete

 

[Titus Pullo]

First off, Thank you. People taking your stance I have asked for names to replace Geno and you are the first to give a suggestion. The only difference between the two would be familiarity and rapport with his teammates. Geno I also thing would be a better leader/teacher. Geno still gives you a better chance to win now over someone like Zach Wilson.

I'm no fan of Zach Wilson but I'm also not a professional, just because I don't see any value out of him doesn't mean professionals don't.

Again, I'm all for moving off Geno and have been for years but there needs to be a plan not just throw darts at a board and hope for the best which is what some seem to have been suggesting.

The draft, even picking very high is no guarantees. I know the names are sexier but that means nothing, especially at QB. You let go of Geno and throw someone far inferior out there then the team sees that as tanking. They quit on you, they leave, free agents won't come here and then you are in purgatory.

We all agree, we need a plan at QB ASAP, but is this the year we find answers in the draft? We won't know for years, and best option in the FA market maybe better than Geno is Darnold

Starting Geno to get 9 or 10 wins will have us picking at 15 or above next year.

Starting Zach or a drafted QB and getting 9 or 10 wins, sounds much better.

 

[Wsumatt1982]

Starting Geno to get 9 or 10 wins will have us picking at 15 or above next year.

Starting Zach or a drafted QB and getting 9 or 10 wins, sounds much better.

Now you lost me, when has Zach Wilson ever come close to sniffing 9-10 wins in a season? What makes you think he is that guy? What are the chances a rookie QB comes in and wins 9-10 games? That would be tanking without putting the label on it

 

[Titus Pullo]

Now you lost me, when has Zach Wilson ever come close to sniffing 9-10 wins in a season? What makes you think he is that guy? What are the chances a rookie QB comes in and wins 9-10 games? That would be tanking without putting the label on it

What's the point of a 9-win season with a 37-year-old bridge QB?

 

[Wsumatt1982]

What's the point of a 9-win season with a 37-year-old bridge QB?

What's the point of a 3 win season if you pissed off your players and players want to leave/not come here?

Geno is 34. Geno will do better with a better OC who can play complimentary football. I hate to admit it too but those are facts.

We can agree to disgaree but best case scenario for a business is to win now while build for the future. Both in the short term and long term.