Fire Ryan Grubb NOW

[Ozzy]

Thats a lot more 'go routes' on 3rd and 2 with no outlet than i thought...

You seem to default to if something goes wrong it’s either the line or Grubb and it can’t be Geno. I think they all are equally at fault at times. That red zone ball that should’ve been picked against Chicago? Solely Geno’s fault and there are many more.

I’m not being snarky either. Maybe Geno is borderline elite like you think and a lot of people are wrong. I don’t think that’s the case but if he goes somewhere else and balls out I’ll be happy for him. I want every dude to succeed.

 

[Ozzy]

In ole toffee's vision, Jake Peetz should have called plays for the past five games. Grubb should have either fired or relieved of play calling duties, again, five games ago. Hey, I advocated for relieving Grubb's play calling duties at that time.

Would Peetz be better in those five games? We will never know, but one thing for sure that we know: WE SURE DIDN'T IMPROVE IN THOSE FIVE GAMES.

For the blame the players gang, the same bunch of players, except JSN, collectively regressed over the last 16 games, think about it.

Geno regressed. DK has also been battling a bad knee injury so why would I just default to Grubb? I think it’s possible Grubb is underutilizing him and he’s playing through an injury because he can’t cut on it, it’s obvious when he’s running routes.

Geno’s numbers are actually similar to last year outside of touchdown/int which I think is partially Geno being hurt and just making bad decisions. Two years ago Geno lead the league in turnover worthy throws but was unbelievably lucky that many were dropped. Maybe Geno is who he’s always been but you can’t be that lucky forever? You guys never mention that stat but it’s true

 

[beaumaris]

Grubb is the type of guy who would pass on the 1 yard line in the Super Bowl.

Ouch! That hurt.

 

[Sperrydogg]

Please chant: We want Sam Howell, we want Sam Howell.

Not gunna do it

 

[Sperrydogg]

Next long term contract, at 34 yo, getting hurt = no more contract.

Right, we need someone willing to sacrifice their body for our dreams!!

 

[Sperrydogg]

You have zero evidence of this happening. If so provide it please.

I don’t have evidence of every time geno did this but I specifically remember him flipping the whole play and calling some extravagant audible which turned out to be a shotgun handoff for no gain… it was like when I play madden and the run looks good the other way so I hit flip play then call out a bunch of hot routes to trick the defense and then run up the gut, except when I do it it always goes for like 40 yards, and on my team I traded GeNo a long time ago

 

[Sperrydogg]

Thats a lot more 'go routes' on 3rd and 2 with no outlet than i thought...

Is this sarcasm cause the go routes on third and short are killing me. We are not a running team because of this. Teams know we aren’t running on third and short. First downs from the ground are demoralizing and that’s how you break your opponent, we don’t do it. Can we do it? Well that’s debatable but against Chicago we were running well, thats how we were moving the ball, but on third down we put it on geno and he was not up for the task

 

[toffee]

Geno regressed. DK has also been battling a bad knee injury so why would I just default to Grubb? I think it’s possible Grubb is underutilizing him and he’s playing through an injury because he can’t cut on it, it’s obvious when he’s running routes.

Geno’s numbers are actually similar to last year outside of touchdown/int which I think is partially Geno being hurt and just making bad decisions. Two years ago Geno lead the league in turnover worthy throws but was unbelievably lucky that many were dropped. Maybe Geno is who he’s always been but you can’t be that lucky forever? You guys never mention that stat but it’s true

Enjoy Grubb then.

 

[toffee]

Right, we need someone willing to sacrifice their body for our dreams!!

That's my beef with Geno and Lockett.

 

[keasley45]

It’s not all the line. Geno is second in sacks that are the quarterbacks fault.
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Geno is squarely in the 'limited time to throw' category, yet completes passes at a higher rate above expectation than Jared Goff

Is this sarcasm cause the go routes on third and short are killing me. We are not a running team because of this. Teams know we aren’t running on third and short. First downs from the ground are demoralizing and that’s how you break your opponent, we don’t do it. Can we do it? Well that’s debatable but against Chicago we were running well, thats how we were moving the ball, but on third down we put it on geno and he was not up for the task

No sarcasm. I get that Geno has been tagged as hikding the ball too long and falling into sacks, but for Christmas sake, i cant count how many times those sacks have come on stupid calls on '3rd and short or reasonable', and we call something that doesnt account for a blitz, or we send 4 deep and have no one open underneath for Geno to hit.

Wyman was talking to Schlereth about exactly this, saying he gets the frustration at sacks happening, but you cant hang your qb out to dry with literally no option other than a deep or medium route

Grubb has done it all season in moments that stand out...

Giants 4th down in our own end
Minny in FG range
Rams game, 2nd half, FG range

...
There are many.

Geno has done some stupid stuff, but he hasnt been helped much at all in this offense. The idiotic 'drop back sack' plays shouldnt even be called in the situations they were. I could understand if we were in desperation mode and needed a TD with no time on the clock or something similar, but most came in the flow of the game when we were just trying to move the chains and maintain possession. Yet Geno gets shackled with the blame.

Folks wont get it until Grubb is gone and someone who knows how to call an NFL game replaces him.

Kind of like how Geno was getting blamed for letting snaps get by him. How many times has that happened since C Williams left?

 

[GetNjigbaWithIt]

I know he isnt going to be the popular pick, but i would love to see Schotty back here and working with Mac.

He was vastly underappreciated as an OC during his time here because of how polarizing the debate was around Russ and why he struggled. But he called some great games that ultimately failed because he needed a qb who was heady in xs and os and manage the game effectively. The dude would be perfect to implement the physical, run based attack that Mac has talked about wanting. I also dont think it hurts that he's been working with Mike Mcarthy now for several years. I think Mcarthy is garbage as a HC but has a great mind for offense.

And i think he will be available and open to coming back unless Pete grabs him in Chicago.

From Mike Mc to Mike Mac... plus he's familiar with the area. Easy transition for him.

I'll admit, I do miss the Schotty years. I was wrong about him, I didn't like his hiring at first, he seemed uninspiring. But both the run game & Russ thrived under his coaching. And the red zone offense was significantly improved as well.

I am with you, I would not complain if they welcomed him back with a fresh start under a new coach. I think he and MacDonald would mesh well together. They would be like Jim Harbaugh & Greg Roman.

 

[Chukarhawk]

I've changed my mind; I think Grubb gets canned. I'd give him more time and help with an O-line. I think Geno doesn't have the mental capacity to run an NFL offense. You need to rip the band aid off and free up the money to do other things. Take a flyer of a QB in the draft.

 

[FrodosFinger]

It's Geno's fault!

No, it's Grubb's fault!

No, it's the o line's fault.

Here's an idea: how about placing some blame on our genius GM who is responsible for ALL OF THEM being here?

Schneider would be immediately hired probably by a rival within 30 seconds of being fired. JS didn’t lead the league in interceptions Geno did however

 

[Ozzy]

Enjoy Grubb then.

I’m not saying he’s been good. I just think saying ALL of our problems are because of him because of hero worshiping the QB is short sighted. I’ve said in multiple places Grubb, Geno, the line all need to be better

 

[James in PA]

Schneider would be immediately hired probably by a rival within 30 seconds of being fired. JS didn’t lead the league in interceptions Geno did however

Good let him go to rival and ruin their o line for the next decade. Also, Schneider is responsible for our current QB situation.

 

[Jville]

A thread where the mob rules ........ an annual tradition.

 

[joeosprey]

you don't fire grubb after one season you fire john schneider for four years of a horrendous offensive attrocious offensive line

 

[joeosprey]

I had to painfully watch as this offensive line allmost got geno smith killed then they had to use pharroh brown as a blocker!!!!! I'm fireing john schneider now!!!!

 

[FrodosFinger]

Good let him go to rival and ruin their o line for the next decade. Also, Schneider is responsible for our current QB situation.

You mean the one where we traded Russ and fleeced Denver? Geno is just a gap quarterback nothing more. Without Schneider this team wouldn’t sniff 10 wins with a rookie head coach bud. Your frustrations are vastly misplaced

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Nah, he just has an opinion, that's what we're here for