Drew Lock is THE GUY

[Rosco]

Well, would you look at that. Geno gets reps with the twos and absolutely destroys today. Lock is shut down by the D.





I reiterate, it's a close competition. Clearly.

And practice isn't over. Just putting it out there. It's a competition, truly.

So….Geno had a day where he finally looked good?

 

[hoxrox]

Glad to hear Lock is getting more reps with the ones. Indicates to me it's a true competition

 

[Maelstrom787]

Wish Lock didn't get absolutely cooked today.

Geno went down and immediately went pretty much perfect on the day, and Lock got neutralized. Not a good thing for Lock when you get promoted to work with the ones and crap the bed.

 

[Rosco]

Wish Lock didn't get absolutely cooked today.

Geno went down and immediately went pretty much perfect on the day, and Lock got neutralized. Not a good thing for Lock when you get promoted to work with the ones and crap the bed.

Not exactly, looks like Lock is getting the start this week.

 

[toffee]

Wish Lock didn't get absolutely cooked today.

Geno went down and immediately went pretty much perfect on the day, and Lock got neutralized. Not a good thing for Lock when you get promoted to work with the ones and crap the bed.

Art of the process for coaches to learn what Lock can or cannot do?

 

[Maelstrom787]

Not exactly, looks like Lock is getting the start this week.

Eh. Pete says it's been the plan, and Lock did get cooked today. Still doesn't bode well for him that he did badly.

 

[Rosco]

Eh. Pete says it's been the plan, and Lock did get cooked today. Still doesn't bode well for him that he did badly.

“at this point” being the key phrase

 

[Maelstrom787]

“at this point” being the key phrase

Absolutely. It's a close competition. Interesting stuff to follow. I think they're gonna keep going back and forth and being lackluster against the ones while the other dominates the twos.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Unfortunately, Lock tested positive for Covid so he's out tomorrow night. Clearly it will be the geNO show. Meh

 

[pittpnthrs]

The fact that Lock is in an even battle with Geno Smith should tell you everything you need to know.

 

[TwistedHusky]

Again, Lock seems like a peak/valley guy.

Lock will have great games, everyone will get excited, people will give him names like 'HorseC*ck Lock' and then in another game he will look like the unholy offspring of a drunk Jimmy G mixed with 2nd coming of Rick Mirer, but blind.

He Looks great. Looks terrible. Looks Ok. Looks OK. Looks Great. Looks Terrible.

Anyone that watched even a few Broncos games last year will tell you this.

 

[Rosco]

Again, Lock seems like a peak/valley guy.

Lock will have great games, everyone will get excited, people will give him names like 'HorseC*ck Lock' and then in another game he will look like the unholy offspring of a drunk Jimmy G mixed with 2nd coming of Rick Mirer, but blind.

He Looks great. Looks terrible. Looks Ok. Looks OK. Looks Great. Looks Terrible.

Anyone that watched even a few Broncos games last year will tell you this.

I watched Drew Lock and can tell you , poor tutelage and a ineffective offensive system was Locks primary problem

 

[Titus Pullo]

The QB who starts the season will have the most pressure on himself to perform.

It will better for Lock to be 2nd string and eventually become the starter by default.

 

[FrodosFinger]

Lock has a nice release and Geno is starting to come into his own this late in his career. I’m comfortable with either truth be told. Understandably Geno has a slight edge due to his command of the offense and accuracy but the competition is neck and neck

 

[Spin Doctor]

I watched Drew Lock and can tell you , poor tutelage and a ineffective offensive system was Locks primary problem

I don't necessarily agree with that statement. Lock was an extremely raw passer coming out of college with elite physical tools. He was a project from day one. Those players are always a gamble. If one of these players work out you have a Josh Allen character -- though it's often the case that these type of prospects fail to live up to their measurables.

Lock had a lot of issues coming out in the NFL draft. He never hammered those issues out, yes coaching played a part to some degree -- but as I said he was a project player, which is why someone which his measurables could be found in the second round. Coaching is just one piece of the puzzle here. Lock himself had some major issues coming out of college.

 

[keasley45]

I don't necessarily agree with that statement. Lock was an extremely raw passer coming out of college with elite physical tools. He was a project from day one. Those players are always a gamble. If one of these players work out you have a Josh Allen character -- though it's often the case that these type of prospects fail to live up to their measurables.

Lock had a lot of issues coming out in the NFL draft. He never hammered those issues out, yes coaching played a part to some degree -- but as I said he was a project player, which is why someone which his measurables could be found in the second round. Coaching is just one piece of the puzzle here. Lock himself had some major issues coming out of college.

Ok, so Jim Nagy, former personnel guy / scout for the seahawks who was very familiar with Lock and is familiar with the situation and Seattle's interest in him said unequivocally that Lock's issues today are a product of poor coaching. But maybe he doesn't know what he's talking about either. ... you know, a pro personnel guy who gets paid to evaluate college prospects and essentially predict their future potential in the NFL.

At minimum, the notion that Lock can succeed here isn't blind optimism. Might even be perfectly logical. Especially given the fact that he has yet to crap the bed in Seahawks blue. Like Geno, maybe he won't be the savior, but as yet, what he is is yet to be written.

 

[Northwest Seahawk]

Lock is not the answer his accuracy downfield is not good. He's a JAG that will be proven if he starts any real stretch of games this year and he probably will. Geno is not the answer either but he's more accurate than Lock at this point in their careers , and gives Seattle the best chance to win. Now if we want to tank tanking start Lock.

 

[Spin Doctor]

Ok, so Jim Nagy, former personnel guy / scout for the seahawks who was very familiar with Lock and is familiar with the situation and Seattle's interest in him said unequivocally that Lock's issues today are a product of poor coaching. But maybe he doesn't know what he's talking about either. ... you know, a pro personnel guy who gets paid to evaluate college prospects and essentially predict their future potential in the NFL.

At minimum, the notion that Lock can succeed here isn't blind optimism. Might even be perfectly logical. Especially given the fact that he has yet to crap the bed in Seahawks blue. Like Geno, maybe he won't be the savior, but as yet, what he is is yet to be written.

He went in the second round for a reason. He was billed as a project player with big potential. A good coach may have made him a better player, may have not. Some people just never are able to make that transition, blaming everything on the coaching is a bit disingenuous. They definitely played a large role, but let's not pretend it was all on the coaching. The guy had some issues in his game to workout, he wasn't exactly a top tier prospect coming out.

He was a raw prospect.

You can quote people like Jim Nagy all you want -- people are wrong sometimes, even the best at their field. Jim Nagy himself also isn't exactly an unbiased source on the matter. Of course he's going to try to make Lock seem as good as possible given that he's going to be our potential starter. Giving the guy as much confidence possible is in everyone's best interest.

At the end of the day, Lock was the 42nd pick despite his elite measurables for a reason. He had some glaring issues in his game that he has yet to sort out. To blame his current issues all on coaching is a bit disingenuous. It definitely played a major role, but let's not pretend that Lock was some top tier prospect that was ruined by coaching. Both parties are culpable here for the success or lack thereof and that goes for any player.

It's more likely than not that he's going to be exactly who he has always been on the Seahawks. I'll eat crow if he actually looks good, but right now that is based more on hopes and dreams than anything but sometimes dreams and hopes do come true.

 

[keasley45]

He went in the second round for a reason. He was billed as a project player with big potential. A good coach may have made him a better player, may have not. Some people just never are able to make that transition, blaming everything on the coaching is a bit disingenuous. They definitely played a large role, but let's not pretend it was all on the coaching. The guy had some issues in his game to workout, he wasn't exactly a top tier prospect coming out.

He was a raw prospect.

You can quote people like Jim Nagy all you want -- people are wrong sometimes, even the best at their field. Jim Nagy himself also isn't exactly an unbiased source on the matter. Of course he's going to try to make Lock seem as good as possible given that he's going to be our potential starter. Giving the guy as much confidence possible is in everyone's best interest.

At the end of the day, Lock was the 42nd pick despite his elite measurables for a reason. He had some glaring issues in his game that he has yet to sort out. To blame his current issues all on coaching is a bit disingenuous. It definitely played a major role, but let's not pretend that Lock was some top tier prospect that was ruined by coaching. Both parties are culpable here for the success or lack thereof and that goes for any player.

It's more likely than not that he's going to be exactly who he has always been on the Seahawks. I'll eat crow if he actually looks good, but right now that is based more on hopes and dreams than anything but sometimes dreams and hopes do come true.

got it

 

[fullquartpress]

But maybe he doesn't know what he's talking about either.

Of course Jim Nagy has no clue...Nagy phones Spin Doctor to get all the best advice.