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uncle fester":32jbo76y said:
One other nagging question. Can the defense put the game away in the 4th quarter. Can they impose their will. Have no doubt in the next 4 weeks that is going to be tested.
Do you trust our Offense in a Big Game?
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One other nagging question. Can the defense put the game away in the 4th quarter. Can they impose their will. Have no doubt in the next 4 weeks that is going to be tested.
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We. Lost. At. Home.
We intercepted Carson Palmer 4 times yet only managed 10 points and 211 total yards. The week before we pick off Eli 5 times and manage just 23 points.
If you aren't worried about the offense you are in denial. And, yes, it does come down to our woeful pass pro.
With that said, New Orleans is the kind of team we can move the ball on, especially in light of their injuries. I think we *could* lose but I expect a W. It's San Francisco the following week that concerns me.
We intercepted Carson Palmer 4 times yet only managed 10 points and 211 total yards. The week before we pick off Eli 5 times and manage just 23 points.
If you aren't worried about the offense you are in denial. And, yes, it does come down to our woeful pass pro.
With that said, New Orleans is the kind of team we can move the ball on, especially in light of their injuries. I think we *could* lose but I expect a W. It's San Francisco the following week that concerns me.
The Cardinals game was a fluke and against a division rival. I mean come on 2 kick-off return fumble's. That game was just one of those bad games that all teams have at some point or another during any given season. I'm glad Hawks got it out of the way late in the season.
The Saints game 5 weeks ago was just utter domination. Although many Saints fans will call it a fluke it simply wasn't. This league is about match-ups and the Saints just match up very poorly to what the Hawks like to do on both sides of the ball. They couldn't do anything on offense and had nothing to stop our offense. Just a very bad match up for them. Being at the Clink is what really maximized this mismatch to be a blowout.
Now here we are questioning our Offense against a team who we physically dominated who have lost their best safety and linebacker and are even more banged up then before in their secondary? I think our offense slowed down at the end of the year due to the lack of getting the TE's involved. I believe they found something last week against the Rams. Now you add in the return of PH who will open up tons of space for our other receivers and TE's. Although RICE didn't have significant #'s his presence allowed things to open up for the other play makers on this team. I believe Harvin will do the same.
Another issue has been the play of the Offensive line. Things seem to look like they were starting to come together against the Rams who have arguably the best front 7 in football so that's a positive. I believe the constant shift because of injuries has messed up the balance and continuity of our line play even though all the starters are back. It hasn't just been in pass protection but in run blocking as well. As many of you know everything offensively starts up front. Hopefully the Rams game was a start of whats to come with better O-line play.
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The Saints game 5 weeks ago was just utter domination. Although many Saints fans will call it a fluke it simply wasn't. This league is about match-ups and the Saints just match up very poorly to what the Hawks like to do on both sides of the ball. They couldn't do anything on offense and had nothing to stop our offense. Just a very bad match up for them. Being at the Clink is what really maximized this mismatch to be a blowout.
Now here we are questioning our Offense against a team who we physically dominated who have lost their best safety and linebacker and are even more banged up then before in their secondary? I think our offense slowed down at the end of the year due to the lack of getting the TE's involved. I believe they found something last week against the Rams. Now you add in the return of PH who will open up tons of space for our other receivers and TE's. Although RICE didn't have significant #'s his presence allowed things to open up for the other play makers on this team. I believe Harvin will do the same.
Another issue has been the play of the Offensive line. Things seem to look like they were starting to come together against the Rams who have arguably the best front 7 in football so that's a positive. I believe the constant shift because of injuries has messed up the balance and continuity of our line play even though all the starters are back. It hasn't just been in pass protection but in run blocking as well. As many of you know everything offensively starts up front. Hopefully the Rams game was a start of whats to come with better O-line play.
GO HAWKS
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volsunghawk":7mw18onf said:
New Orleans is a top 10 D. In fact, they are a top 5 D.
They finished the regular season #4 in both yards per game and, in my opinion the most important defensive stat, points per game.
They also just held an Eagles offense that finished the regular as the #2 offense with well over 400 yards per game to just 256 yards on the road in Philly last weekend.
Lots of people seem to be dismissing the Saints defense, but the fact is (proven by stats), they have a very good defense and quite frankly our offense hasn't been very good lately.
Chapow":v9oaawad said:
A lot of those #s especially the pass defense have gone downhill with key members of their secondary going on IR. The key component to their decent run D just went on IR this week. Lastly Philly have played against some downright terrible defenses this year. I only count 2 top 10 defenses they have faced all year. A lot of philly's numbers were put up because they played very poor defenses. Some of which are historically bad. Philly was just simply a product of playing in a very bad division and a very weak schedule. Nothing Saints did to them was impressive. Saints were simply the better team with the better record.
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No, LOL, but I like the way you think!CHawkTailGator":2ihoj70i said:
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You got to be crazy if your not worried. Offense has really been struggling. The wrong thing to do is look past a playoff team.
As of today, I trust RW, I don't trust our offense. Receivers not getting open, Offensive line getting called for holding on big plays. I love our team, but we definitely have a weakness in the offense. It could be the loss of Rice, maybe Harvin will open it up, maybe someone will double Beast Mode's skittle intake, but nothing at this moment makes me feel all comfy and cozy about our offense. We'll find out Saturday.
TheWallE":3i10wel6 said:
Like I said that defense isn't coming to the Clink on Saturday. They are down Davis,Greer,Robinson,Vaccaro in their secondary. Outside of Lewis their secondary is very suspect at the current time. They are no longer the secondary that gave them a #2 league pass defense. Another key component of that defense was their run stuffing LB Haralson who just went to IR this week after the Eagles game. Stop looking at ratings people. The defense is very suspect at this time.
This league isn't about whether your #1 and someone else is number #7. Its about how your players match up against their players. And with the Saints its mismatch against the Hawks. Week #13's game was evidence of this. Saint now come in weaker and the Hawks are now stronger. It may not be a blowout but Hawks will win this game decisively.
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Chapow":adaj5s2p said:
They aren't a top 5 D. Saints offense has the highest time of possession in the league. Saints defense is only 10th by actual quality. The fact that Seattle dominated them last time is a big hint.
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I do trust them but they are good for a few false starts and holds which puts us in 3rd and long situations. If we play penalty free and the play calling is a little less vanilla, I'm confident we'll see a lot of points on Saturday against this defense.
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formido":2o85cy47 said:
So you are going to disregard yards per game and points per game over a full NFL regular season and go with "actual quality" instead?
Serious question, well two questions, what does that even mean and where are you finding these "actual quality" rankings?
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Since we're 13-3, yes, i trust the offense to score enough points to win.
RCATES":133w2r3i said:
All of those guys you mentioned as being out have been out for a few weeks... the Saints D in that time has actually not been bad. In fact look at last week the Saints went on the road, in adverse conditions and held one of the most explosive offenses in the NFL in check. They average well over 400 yards and only managed 256. The defense is still more than capable of playing at a high level.
SoulfishHawk
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We scored more points than the Saints did this year right?
hmmm
hmmm
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I am not sure i trust the offense to convert 40% or higher third downs as I would love. I don't trust our O to put up thirty points either, but I do trust them to do enough to get us a win, and with our D a comfortable win this week and a squeaker in the NFCCG.
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Right here:Chapow":20a42xia said:
http://www.footballoutsiders.com/dvoa-r ... oa-ratings
New Orleans has the 10th ranked defense. These are advanced metrics and measure a teams true quality. Most football experts respect these metrics more greatly than the basic metrics used by, say ESPN and SI.
