Crazy speculative cap question

[StoneCold]

Most difficult question for the Hawks front office over the next few years is how to keep all of their good, young, underpaid players. Obviously with the salary cap that's not happening. But here's my question. Would it be possible for someone like Wilson or Sherman to take half what the open market would pay, keep the team together, make 3 more runs at a the Super Bowl, hopefully getting their at least once more, and make up the difference in endorsements? I realize it's very dependent on them getting back to the Super Bowl, not to mention avoiding injury. Highly risky. But it would be a unique accomplishment. And I think advertisers would pay a premium. I don't think any player would ever take the chance, but if they did...? Risk reward?

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[Basis4day]

Most difficult question for the Hawks front office over the next few years is how to keep all of their good, young, underpaid players. Obviously with the salary cap that's not happening. But here's my question. Would it be possible for someone like Wilson or Sherman to take half what the open market would pay, keep the team together, make 3 more runs at a the Super Bowl, hopefully getting their at least once more, and make up the difference in endorsements? I realize it's very dependent on them getting back to the Super Bowl, not to mention avoiding injury. Highly risky. But it would be a unique accomplishment. And I think advertisers would pay a premium. I don't think any player would ever take the chance, but if they did...? Risk reward?

SC

Football players don't make as much on endorsements as you may think. Forbes Magazine estimates that Aaron Rodgers made 6 million in endorsements last year and is is worth about 47 million dollars in dead money at the conclusion of the 2013-14 season. While it's an interesting idea, it doesn't make financial sense to the players based on market value.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/kurtbadenha ... yers-2013/

 

[Lady Talon]

I think aside from RW and ET3, our good young underpaid players that stand to get huge paychecks will be paid by other teams while PC and JS reload and adapt. Can't stay relevant anymore keeping the same faces year after year. Fortunately our FO has been top 5 in the NFL at finding and developing young talent. I wouldn't be surprised to see some trades before paychecks come due for draft capital, even though it rips me up to see beloved players move on.

 

[StoneCold]

Most difficult question for the Hawks front office over the next few years is how to keep all of their good, young, underpaid players. Obviously with the salary cap that's not happening. But here's my question. Would it be possible for someone like Wilson or Sherman to take half what the open market would pay, keep the team together, make 3 more runs at a the Super Bowl, hopefully getting their at least once more, and make up the difference in endorsements? I realize it's very dependent on them getting back to the Super Bowl, not to mention avoiding injury. Highly risky. But it would be a unique accomplishment. And I think advertisers would pay a premium. I don't think any player would ever take the chance, but if they did...? Risk reward?

SC

Football players don't make as much on endorsements as you may think. Forbes Magazine estimates that Aaron Rodgers made 6 million in endorsements last year and is is worth about 47 million dollars in dead money at the conclusion of the 2013-14 season. While it's an interesting idea, it doesn't make financial sense to the players based on market value.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/kurtbadenha ... yers-2013/

Interesting that they don't get the big endorsement deals. I vaguely remember reading that Tiger woods was, was as in before Elin clubbed him with a 7 iron. , making far more in endorsements. I thought if you could win 2 or 3 SB's you'd be as marketable. Then I realized Brady has done it. I wonder what his endorsement deals are worth. I don't think it's more than Rogers as I see him daaaable checking on tv all the time and I never see Brady. Guess it really is a crazy idea.

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[Basis4day]

Tiger Woods does make a ton in endorsements to the tune of 65 million. Keep in mind he gets a golf game named after him and is sponsored by Nike and Rolex.

Tom Brady was last estimated at 7 million in endorsements. Thing about him though is he doesn't need that much money. His wife makes more than he does at around 45 million a year.

 

[BamKam]

I think aside from RW and ET3, our good young underpaid players that stand to get huge paychecks will be paid by other teams while PC and JS reload and adapt. Can't stay relevant anymore keeping the same faces year after year. Fortunately our FO has been top 5 in the NFL at finding and developing young talent. I wouldn't be surprised to see some trades before paychecks come due for draft capital, even though it rips me up to see beloved players move on.

No way they let Sherman go

 

[DavidSeven]

Would it be possible for someone like Wilson or Sherman to take half what the open market would pay,

lol.

Not saying they won't take some sort of discount or favorable structuring, but HALF? Come on. No. Rodgers and Clay Mathews are in a bunch of commercials, and they both signed massive contracts this year.

 

[StoneCold]

Would it be possible for someone like Wilson or Sherman to take half what the open market would pay,

lol.

Not saying they won't take some sort of discount or favorable structuring, but HALF? Come on. No. Rodgers and Clay Mathews are in a bunch of commercials, and they both signed massive contracts this year.

Question is not exactly "Would they" as I really don't think they would. Question is could they make it up in endorsements if they kept the team together and won 3 more Super Bowls?

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PS: Of course that would be a total of 4 since they be kicking some Bronco butt next weekend.

 

[notyou]

To get around the salary cap, Paul Allen could pay them the difference for doing commercials for the EMP.

 

[Missing_Clink]

Our guys are going to want market value. We won't be able to pay everyone. We will lose some important, loved players. That is just part of being a good team. Start coming to grips with it as soon as you can because its going to happen.

 

[seedhawk]

Our guys are going to want market value. We won't be able to pay everyone. We will lose some important, loved players. That is just part of being a good team. Start coming to grips with it as soon as you can because its going to happen.

Indeed! Take a good long hard look at our roster and what they are paid NOW. Because, 2 or 4 or 6 years from now it is gonna be damn similar. Moneyball for the NFL.

 

[drdiags]

I doubt a player would sign a contract that is severely under market value. It's because his other union members would be impacted by his actions. Getting market value helps his fellow players who may be franchised. The backlash against him and his agents would be huge, his agents could damage future client opportunities.

Plus, why would Sherman and Wilson take such a huge discount when the Seahawks paid Percy Harvin such a prime contract? Face it, some of our favorite players are out of here.

 

[getnasty]

Yeah nobody's taking half, but if anyone was going to take less to help keep a team together it would be Russell.

 

[Jville]

I doubt a player would sign a contract that is severely under market value. It's because his other union members would be impacted by his actions. Getting market value helps his fellow players who may be franchised. The backlash against him and his agents would be huge, his agents could damage future client opportunities.

Plus, why would Sherman and Wilson take such a huge discount when the Seahawks paid Percy Harvin such a prime contract? Face it, some of our favorite players are out of here.

The relevant figures for comparison being ....... after taxes.

 

[Mr.Hawkbrah]

To get around the salary cap, Paul Allen could pay them the difference for doing commercials for the EMP.

holy crap dude, is such a thing legal? allen is loaded im sure he would do it. something tells me theres a reason this hasnt been done before (assuming it hasnt.)

 

[seadoc30]

I think our priority should be to keep ET over anybody. If we are to let one of our stars go, I think it should be Sherman. He will be demanding to be paid as the best CB. He has that selfish nature n doubt he will take a big discount. Plus, there isn't much of a drop between a superstar CB and a good CB, but the money could be a difference of 10+ million a year.

 

[Navyhawkfan187]

To get around the salary cap, Paul Allen could pay them the difference for doing commercials for the EMP.

holy crap dude, is such a thing legal? allen is loaded im sure he would do it. something tells me theres a reason this hasnt been done before (assuming it hasnt.)

Not legal and would end up costing the team draft picks...lots of draft picks....if caught

 

[Navyhawkfan187]

I think our priority should be to keep ET over anybody. If we are to let one of our stars go, I think it should be Sherman. He will be demanding to be paid as the best CB. He has that selfish nature n doubt he will take a big discount. Plus, there isn't much of a drop between a superstar CB and a good CB, but the money could be a difference of 10+ million a year.

Where do you get that Sherman has a "selfish" nature? Because he screamed about Michael Crabtree? Because he stuck up for himself against Skip Trolless? I get that he's going to get paid top CB money, but to insinuate that its because he's "selfish" or a "me first" guy is just patently wrong.

 

[QuahHawk]

Sherm could get $14 mil. Maxwell, WT3, and Simon all will cost less then $3Mil for all 3.

Earl will be cheaper, something like 9mil a year.

Would you rather Have

A: Sherm ($14m) + Earl ($9) = $23M
or
B: Earl ($9m) + Tate ($7) + KJ ($5) + Baldwin ($3)= $24m

 

[Bigpumpkin]

How many here remember this dialog in 2006? "He's only a Guard, how much can he be worth? They are easily replaced, right?" Famous last words!