Browner suspended a year for non-PED drug abuse per ESPN?

[RolandDeschain]

...Weed is not addictive....

This is simply untrue, factually. Addiction is more complicated than just getting junk-sick when you can't find any heroin.

Sigh. I hate the "it's nobody's fault" philosophy when it comes to addiction. You know what? Water is addictive too, then. Anything you LIKE is addictive. :roll:

Browner's an idiot. End of story.

 

[Tech Worlds]

...Weed is not addictive....

This is simply untrue, factually. Addiction is more complicated than just getting junk-sick when you can't find any heroin.

Sigh. I hate the "it's nobody's fault" philosophy when it comes to addiction. You know what? Water is addictive too, then. Anything you LIKE is addictive. :roll:

Browner's an idiot. End of story.

You mean personal accountability? Interesting concept.

 

[SeaTown81]

And for the record. I have never been a big fan of Browner. Yes, his physicality plays a big role in the defense being able to do what they do. But I've always thought he was a bit stupid about it all. He got away with a lot, and was successful in doing so. But along the way, his manhandling of wr's only helped put the spotlight on the Hawks' d. And IMO, is a big reason why we get flagged for as many ticky tack BS calls on D as we do, when other teams don't. Also, he's slow and can be a liability against quick wr's when he's not able to jam them at the line and smash them into the ground. TY Hilton made him look lost in Indy this year. I'm not saying he doesn't make the Hawks better than they are without him. But if there was one player in that secondary I'm cool with losing, it's him. And that includes long term. He's getting up there in age as well, and is only going to get slower.

More pressure on Thurmond to step up after he serves his suspension. Hope WT is ready to make up for his sins.

 

[bestfightstory]

If you think there aren't players on this team who are clean AND FURIOUS with The Thurmonds and Browners of the team, you are kidding yourself.

It ain't all about Angry Doug.

 

[bigwrm]

I'd be very curious to know exactly why these guys are failing the drug tests when plenty of players around the league smoke and don't. Are they being stupid in terms of when they smoke in conjunction with the testing? I know that the NFL and NBA have it where players have a relatively decent idea of when they are gonna be tested and when they're in the clear? Were Browner and Thurmond just stupid and reckless about it? Or did they screw up in attempts to mask their samples? There's a ton of ways you can pass a drug test with not much notice. I know some guys i work with who are always ready if need be. Who was the NFL player a few years back who got busted for using the Whizzinator? Anyway, there's way these guys get around the tests. Is it simply a matter of our guys not being good enough at it? Sounds silly and a joke. But it's a legit question. The fact is a very high portion of pro athletes (NFL & NBA especially) smoke weed. And you don't hear about countless failed tests for weed.

Interesting to ponder. But in the grand scheme. The why's of it don't matter in terms of the Hawks. They messed up and let their teammates down. Shame on them. Next man up.

From what I've read, players only get tested once per year in the offseason. Once you've passed the test, party on. If you fail this initial test, you're put in Stage 1 of the intervention program and are subject to more frequent testing. If you fail a test while in Stage 1, you get a 4-game suspension. Another failed test is a year-long suspension.

 

[LoneHawkFan]

...Weed is not addictive....

This is simply untrue, factually. Addiction is more complicated than just getting junk-sick when you can't find any heroin.

There is really no tolerance built up by the body for weed. There is absolutely no withdrawal. There is no physical addiction whatsoever.

What does exist is a fierce craving for those who really like it. When I have some around, I think about it constantly, it consumes me. I can't tell it no. However...when it's gone, it's gone and I have absolutely no problem going months again without some.

It CAN be very addictive, psychologically. However I know several people that can keep it around and save it for a rainy day. Absolutely no addiction physically or psychologically for them. No telling what it was like for Browner, but I know for a fact his body was not addicted to weed.

 

[Jay-Dog]

So where do go from here? Doors just opened up so wide you can fit a 747 in there.

I hope we have an unexpected game plan. Next man up! I do like our back ups and I am quite sure they are happy to play on Monday.

Forecast is cold and rain.

 

[Hendo66]

Same as painkillers

 

[Tech Worlds]

I hate the fact that they tested positive for drugs. It just gives the sport, and my team a bad rep and reinforces negative stereotypes about athletes.

 

[SeaTown81]

So does anyone know for certain if the failed weed test combines with the ped test to give BB a 1 year suspension? Or was the reported one year suspension from when the reporters thought it was a 2nd ped failure? I kinda want to move on from BB regardless. Just curious.

 

[Throwdown]

One thing I got pissed about was Thurmonds tweets today. Paraphrasing: "I am disappointed with myself and "I" am going to have to deal with it". No, you son of a bitch, WE have to deal with you not being back there helping us get to the freakin' Super Bowl with this RARE combination of talent you selfish bastard! Not even a thought of how IMPORTANT this season is to us and every Seahawks fan out there! :229031_banghead: God that drives me CRAZY! Same with you... "Brandon"!

Talk about reaching

 

[VivaEfrenHerrera]

...Weed is not addictive....

This is simply untrue, factually. Addiction is more complicated than just getting junk-sick when you can't find any heroin.

You know what? Water is addictive too, then. Anything you LIKE is addictive. :roll:

Again, simply untrue, factually. A detailed discussion is beyond the scope of this message board, but there's tons of really interesting information about the true nature of addiction. Avail yourself of it, or not. :shrug:

Also, there's nothing in what I said about any kind of "nobody's fault" theory of addiction. To my knowledge, there is no such theory.

 

[pcbball12]

So does anyone know for certain if the failed weed test combines with the ped test to give BB a 1 year suspension? Or was the reported one year suspension from when the reporters thought it was a 2nd ped failure? I kinda want to move on from BB regardless. Just curious.

Browner has already violated the substance abuse policy multiple times from his time in Denver. This substance abuse suspension is for a year since he was already in stage 2 (or 3?) of the nfl's drug program.

 

[hawk45]

If you think there aren't players on this team who are clean AND FURIOUS with The Thurmonds and Browners of the team, you are kidding yourself.

It ain't all about Angry Doug.

BFS is on the money with this. There are players on that team that are equally tempted to slack off or do dumb things, but they make sacrifices in order to be good at their job and support the team goal. These 2 guys just made their job harder. They might or might not lay the smack down on them, depending on whether they think it would hurt or help the team, but they're seething inside about it.

My pity is reserved for the members of the team who didn't eff up but who'll bear some of the consequences anyhow because their lifelong goal has just been moved a bit further back.

 

[Blitzer88]

I hate the fact that they tested positive for drugs. It just gives the sport, and my team a bad rep and reinforces negative stereotypes about athletes.

Agree with you here.

 

[VivaEfrenHerrera]

...Weed is not addictive....

This is simply untrue, factually. Addiction is more complicated than just getting junk-sick when you can't find any heroin.

There is really no tolerance built up by the body for weed. There is absolutely no withdrawal. There is no physical addiction whatsoever.

What does exist is a fierce craving for those who really like it. When I have some around, I think about it constantly, it consumes me. I can't tell it no. However...when it's gone, it's gone and I have absolutely no problem going months again without some.

It CAN be very addictive, psychologically. However I know several people that can keep it around and save it for a rainy day. Absolutely no addiction physically or psychologically for them. No telling what it was like for Browner, but I know for a fact his body was not addicted to weed.

Look, I'm with you to a point. But the distinction between "physical" and "psychological" addiction is too squishy to be really useful. But there's a reason why it makes sense to talk about addictions to cigarettes, porn, sex, heroin, weed, gambling and even food. The consequences for all these are different, but these addictions exist nonetheless.

 

[BlueThunder]

One thing I got pissed about was Thurmonds tweets today. Paraphrasing: "I am disappointed with myself and "I" am going to have to deal with it". No, you son of a bitch, WE have to deal with you not being back there helping us get to the freakin' Super Bowl with this RARE combination of talent you selfish bastard! Not even a thought of how IMPORTANT this season is to us and every Seahawks fan out there! :229031_banghead: God that drives me CRAZY! Same with you... "Brandon"!

Talk about reaching

How is that reaching? Both of them put their little selfish buzz above the importance that Seahawks Nation was counting on for our Super Bowl run... I don't understand how my paragraph there is "reaching"... And he did say "I", as in it's "my" problem... Like the Seahawks fans had no relevance...

 

[-The Glove-]

One thing I got pissed about was Thurmonds tweets today. Paraphrasing: "I am disappointed with myself and "I" am going to have to deal with it". No, you son of a bitch, WE have to deal with you not being back there helping us get to the freakin' Super Bowl with this RARE combination of talent you selfish bastard! Not even a thought of how IMPORTANT this season is to us and every Seahawks fan out there! :229031_banghead: God that drives me CRAZY! Same with you... "Brandon"!

Talk about reaching

And Thurmond will be back for the playoffs

 

[Hasselbeck]

Jesus Browner.

Thurmond was bad, this is even worse since he's already been caught before. What in the holy rhymes with duck is going on?

 

[Throwdown]

One thing I got pissed about was Thurmonds tweets today. Paraphrasing: "I am disappointed with myself and "I" am going to have to deal with it". No, you son of a bitch, WE have to deal with you not being back there helping us get to the freakin' Super Bowl with this RARE combination of talent you selfish bastard! Not even a thought of how IMPORTANT this season is to us and every Seahawks fan out there! :229031_banghead: God that drives me CRAZY! Same with you... "Brandon"!

Talk about reaching

How is that reaching? Both of them put their little selfish buzz above the importance that Seahawks Nation was counting on for our Super Bowl run... I don't understand how my paragraph there is "reaching"... And he did say "I", as in it's "my" problem... Like the Seahawks fans had no relevance...

How else was he suppose to phrase that? He took ownership of his screw up, in my eyes with that.