fifty9fan":3h812bfj said:
I remember a head coach that went 41-55 in his first 6 seasons. Dude's name is Bill Belichick.
I also remember Pete Carroll getting run out of the NFL on a rail after going 33-31 as a head coach with the Jets and Pats. Comes back in 2010 and has gone 79-48 since.
Bet the folks in Buffalo were just thrilled to get Marv Levy, who went 31-42 in 5 seasons with KC. 4 Superbowl appearances later, and a 112-70 record with the Bills created one of the NFL's great runs, and if the ball had bounced differently a couple of times, they may have been named among the dynasties of the late 80's/early 90's.
Point is, I don't think any of us have any idea what Schotty is gonna bring to the Seahawk table...just like the fans of the Pats, Seahawks and Bills had no clue either. And many of them cursed those hires, but in time, discovered the ability of humans to adapt, grow and succeed in new environments. Here's hoping the same thing happens to Schotty. I, for one, welcome his hire and hope for great results. And I can't wait to see what he does with Russ!!
It's certainly possible it may turn out to be a less than stellar hire, but right now, it's all good.
Go Hawks!!
Now THERE's a voice of reason and experience! Absolutely right. Look, Brian Scottenheimer is 44 years old -- 44 years old! Some people here seem to be treating him like he's 94 years old, sitting in an Alzheimer's unit, spending his days chewing on his dentures or something. 44 is pretty darned young people ... and like fifty9fan is saying, people re-invent themselves all the time. They figure things out ... adapt over time ... and can actually make some pretty significant personal changes and the way they approach things.
I'll raise my hand as one of those. I turn 47 next month (so I'm just a shade older than Scottenheimer here). Speaking purely for myself, when I was in my 20s (as I look back now), I thought I was pretty smart and knew everything. In my 30s, I would say that I came to realize that I didn't know as much as I thought I did. As a whole, I was fairly stressed and worried during those years, spending most of my energies figuring out career and how to provide for my family. I worked myself to death in a lot of ways, trying to please my bosses and make everyone around me happy. It's only been in the last 3-4 years that things have really started clicking for me. I've made some fairly significant shifts in the way I view things. I've learned from past mistakes ... and view life through much different lenses now than I did even 10 years ago. The glass is much more 1/2 full for me now (it was more 1/2 empty back then).
Let's put things into perspective by going back to Pete Carroll. You guys realize that Pete was 43 years old when he was fired by the Jets? He was 48 when he was fired by the Patriots. It was at that point (after he'd been fired the 2nd time) that he met John Wooden ... and that exchange changed the course of his life and set him on the path that he is now. Carroll said Wooden told him (I'm paraphrasing here), "You're trying to be something that you're not. Stop trying to be everyone else. Be the best you that you can be."
http://www.espn.com/blog/nfcwest/post/_/id/18965/carroll-john-wooden-transformed-career
So, USC fans reacted to them hiring a 50 year old Pete Carroll in 2001 ... very similar to a lot of Hawk fans are reacting to Brian Schottenheimer now.
Point being, we have no idea what this version of Brian Scottenheimer is going to look like in Seattle. I would posit to you that we learn far more from our failures in life ... than ever do from our successes. It's clear that he is a very hard working passionate coach. I'm willing to give him a chance and to not pre-judge him. I sincerely hope others will as well.
