Best bridge QB for 2025

[hawker84]

I mean, I don't disagree that having a solid line is important. So is having a really good defense. It's all important. I don't think it's arguable what position affects your team the most though.

Agree to disagree. How many games did our defense lose us this year? How many bonehead dead ball penalties either killed drives or extended opposition drives? You win as a team, you lose as a team. Yes of course the QB plays a huge part on the success or failure of an offense, but so do the tackles and linebalinebacker, seahawks fans saw the huge difference this year on both sides of the ball when Jones was brought in and Lucas came back.

 

[Natethegreat]

Agree to disagree. How many games did our defense lose us this year? How many bonehead dead ball penalties either killed drives or extended opposition drives? You win as a team, you lose as a team. Yes of course the QB plays a huge part on the success or failure of an offense, but so do the tackles and linebalinebacker, seahawks fans saw the huge difference this year on both sides of the ball win Jones was brought in and Lucas came back.

I remember an extraordinary defense with Tez Walker in the 90's. That defense was elite.
We went 2-14 I believe it was. Rick Mirer I think was our QB st the time. Sunk our whole team. Just one player sunk that team.
GM's and teams pay QB's for a reason. They are the most important position on the team period.
Edit: might have been Dan Mcgwire. I can't remember now. Point is the QB has that much influence on the teams outcome.

 

[hawker84]

I remember an extraordinary defense with Tez Walker in the 90's. That defense was elite.
We went 2-14 I believe it was. Rick Mirer I think was our QB st the time. Sunk our whole team. Just one player sunk that team.
GM's and teams pay QB's for a reason. They are the most important position on the team period.
Edit: might have been Dan Mcgwire. I can't remember now. Point is the QB has that much influence on the teams outcome.

Fair enough. We can agree to disagree.

 

[OrangeGravy]

Fair enough. We can agree to disagree.

I think it's an easier conversation if you think of it in position groups vs players when you talk about most important. The main reason the QB is the "most" important is because that position group is 1 person. 1 single person determines how good that position group is. I don't think anyone would argue that a football team is only as good as their O-line/D-line groups are, but they're made up of multiple players. One great lineman on either side + crap doesn't make the position group good.

For a team to be good, the 3 most important position groups on a football team have to at least meet a minimum level of competence. If any 1 of those groups perform consistently below that level, your team will average at best and more likely bad. It just so happens that the QB position group is 1 person away from changing the calculus.

IF, you have a QB that is well above that minimum level of competence, you need the other 2 groups to be at an appropriate level win with that QB. IF the QBs is otherworldly, those 2 groups have some wiggle room. IF the QB is barely competent, they have to be otherworldly. Same goes for any 1 of those 3 groups

 

[hawker84]

I think it's an easier conversation if you think of it in position groups vs players when you talk about most important. The main reason the QB is the "most" important is because that position group is 1 person. 1 single person determines how good that position group is. I don't think anyone would argue that a football team is only as good as their O-line/D-line groups are, but they're made up of multiple players. One great lineman on either side + crap doesn't make the position group good.

For a team to be good, the 3 most important position groups on a football team have to at least meet a minimum level of competence. If any 1 of those groups perform consistently below that level, your team will average at best and more likely bad. It just so happens that the QB position group is 1 person away from changing the calculus.

IF, you have a QB that is well above that minimum level of competence, you need the other 2 groups to be at an appropriate level win with that QB. IF the QBs is otherworldly, those 2 groups have some wiggle room. IF the QB is barely competent, they have to be otherworldly. Same goes for any 1 of those 3 groups

There is only a handful of QBs thay could come into seattle and perform as well as Geno did under he constant pressure he faced.

My only point is, you can put a mediocre QB behind an above average line and the team should still function at a productive level. Take an above average QB (not a Star) and put him behind a subpar OLine and chances are that offense is going to struggle.

So unless you plan on bringing in a Jackson, Allen, Mahomes, Burrow type, or a rookie like Daniels or Stroud, you're setting your team up for less production most likely than what you already have with Geno. As far as i can tell, those options arent available this offseason, so you might as well move forward with Geno all the while continuing to imorove other position groups until that option comes available.

Just my two cents.

 

[OrangeGravy]

There is only a handful of QBs thay could come into seattle and perform as well as Geno did under he constant pressure he faced.

My only point is, you can put a mediocre QB behind an above average line and the team should still function at a productive level. Take an above average QB (not a Star) and put him behind a subpar OLine and chances are that offense is going to struggle.

So unless you plan on bringing in a Jackson, Allen, Mahomes, Burrow type, or a rookie like Daniels or Stroud, you're setting your team up for less production most likely than what you already have with Geno. As far as i can tell, those options arent available this offseason, so you might as well move forward with Geno all the while continuing to imorove other position groups until that option comes available.

Just my two cents.

I agree

 

[OrangeGravy]

There is only a handful of QBs thay could come into seattle and perform as well as Geno did under he constant pressure he faced.

My only point is, you can put a mediocre QB behind an above average line and the team should still function at a productive level. Take an above average QB (not a Star) and put him behind a subpar OLine and chances are that offense is going to struggle.

So unless you plan on bringing in a Jackson, Allen, Mahomes, Burrow type, or a rookie like Daniels or Stroud, you're setting your team up for less production most likely than what you already have with Geno. As far as i can tell, those options arent available this offseason, so you might as well move forward with Geno all the while continuing to imorove other position groups until that option comes available.

Just my two cents.

I'd also say, I THINK some prefer the option of cycling through bad QBs in the hopes that it leads to a Mahomes, Allen, or Burrow. The reality is, its simply a matter of timing to get those types of players regardless of what you're doing. I personally would rather field the best team possible every year. You can't artificially accelerate the process of winning the lottery. All you can do is buy a ticket (or not) based on your scouting process

 

[Wsumatt1982]

Random thought. If we put JS back there as QB I guarantee he does everything possible to fix the O line. Won't solve our QB conundrum but line should be solved.

 

[toffee]

There is only a handful of QBs thay could come into seattle and perform as well as Geno did under he constant pressure he faced.

My only point is, you can put a mediocre QB behind an above average line and the team should still function at a productive level. Take an above average QB (not a Star) and put him behind a subpar OLine and chances are that offense is going to struggle.

So unless you plan on bringing in a Jackson, Allen, Mahomes, Burrow type, or a rookie like Daniels or Stroud, you're setting your team up for less production most likely than what you already have with Geno. As far as i can tell, those options arent available this offseason, so you might as well move forward with Geno all the while continuing to imorove other position groups until that option comes available.

Just my two cents.

You obviously hasn't run your opinion first by Ozz, or you would have learned that Geno is at best 20th, but more like 25th ranked in the league. The top 15th QB may be franchise-type, but there should be at least 5 if not 10 better than Geno QBs to pick from.

 

[IndyHawk]

Who were the 3 for 3?
1) Ozzy (2) ? (3) ?

Guess?

 

[warden]

Really, Wilson got votes. Obviously you haven’t seen him play the month.

 

[Ozzy]

You obviously hasn't run your opinion first by Ozz, or you would have learned that Geno is at best 20th, but more like 25th ranked in the league. The top 15th QB may be franchise-type, but there should be at least 5 if not 10 better than Geno QBs to pick from.

Come on man, I’ve always been fair with you and respectful. I never said at best 20th. I said the league execs have him too low with that ranking.

 

[toffee]

Really, Wilson got votes. Obviously you haven’t seen him play the month.

Just need better coaching.

 

[Ozzy]

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Who were the 3 for 3?
1) Ozzy (2) ? (3) ?

Guess?

No I can be objective unlike some. Geno is worse than Russ this year but I still don’t want Russ regardless

 

[12AngryHawks]

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John63 & BroncoTed

 

[NoGain]

Like it or not, Geno is getting about $45 mill next season. It's what starting QBs go for these days.

If you bid against yourself, IMO. We'll see, though.

 

[Titus Pullo]

I prefer a QB on a 5-year rookie contract like Washington, Denver, and Chicago are doing.

Sick of hearing about the OL and a bridge QB every year since Russell left.

I thought Broncos got the worse end of the Wilson deal but in reality, they are in better shape than we are going forward.

 

[IndyHawk]

No I can be objective unlike some. Geno is worse than Russ this year but I still don’t want Russ regardless

Pete's gonna take him in his next job..

 

[Cyrus12]

Pete's gonna take him in his next job..

Russ must realize by now that all his success in this league is because of Pete. Pete is the only one that can coach to his glaring weaknesses and make it work very well. I'd love to see a reunion.

 

[Cyrus12]

Id be very surprised if Geno isn't our starter day 1 next season. Who else is out there that is gonna be better right now? Not saying Geno is a longterm answer because he isn't but the other options are slim to none...still think we gotta tank a year to get that top qb pick outta college whoever that may be...obviously not last name Manning as he'd never play here....and it seems this years crops are all Matt Barkley and Matt Lennart 2.0's.. .so why waste a pick on a qb this year???